CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[mrjitty]

Here in America, it's win at all costs, you need to look no further than the OJ Trial as a prime example.

Sadly, my friend.

 

[Chelly]

Yes, I have to keep rebooting. And it works for a minute then buffers endlessly. I have errands to do so I guess that is a sign that I should just go and do them.

Same here. Law and Crime is the worst of all live stream sites, imo and in this trial, sadly it is the only show in town.

 

[mrjitty]

As usual it doesn’t work, the site appears to have a serious bandwidth issue.

Yeah - they are streaming off their own server I think - they should be using a dedicated live stream service which has the correct infrastructure

eg You Tube would be flawless

 

[asyousay]

I thought CM was just a subcontractor?

I've never known a subcontractor being given that kind of access.

He was also very close with Joey so why wouldn’t Joey do those things if he trusted him?

This is the same person who helped out Chase girlfriends when he was in jail and supported them? - he was just to damn kind for his own good imo

 

[asyousay]

They just mentioned his hand being injured but it’s streaming so bad couldn’t understand it fully.

Then he says everybody who knew Joey loved him but the same couldn’t be said about Summer. Then my feed has died again

 

[Texas Red]

Yes, I have to keep rebooting. And it works for a minute then buffers endlessly. I have errands to do so I guess that is a sign that I should just go and do them.

The site providing the stream, ‘lawandcrime.com' offers paid subscriptions, does anybody have one? If so, do you also have streaming dropouts? I’m thinking that if you’re a paying customer, you are then allocated more bandwidth.

 

[mrjitty]

Exhibit one billion and one of why never to do an interview with the police when you did some murders

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 5m5 minutes ago
#McStay - Female investigator on the phone says to Merritt, "You've talked about Joe in the past tense a few times, any reason you would do that?" Merritt: "No, I never really thought of him as possibility being dead, no I can't say that because I have."

 

[Edmo]

Livestream is turrrrrible, but this interview is solid gold for the prosecution. Hats off to the investigators for asking the right questions.

 

[Texas Red]

Yeah - they are streaming off their own server I think - they should be using a dedicated live stream service which has the correct infrastructure

eg You Tube would be flawless

I agree.

 

[MKZoo]

The feed is just the worst today. They are allegedly “working on it”. Ha.

I really would have liked to hear the entire part about how Joey was so generous with everything and Summer wanted what was hers to stay hers. Sigh. I think that’s an important nugget of what CM’s motivation might have been.

Imo.

 

[mrjitty]

The hate of summer is really something

 

[oceanblueeyes]

That could backfire if the defense calls DK and he takes the 5th, think of the message that would send to the jury.

Just think how interesting it would be if he didnt take the fifth?

If the DT assumes he will take the fifth they would make sure they call him in a nano second.

The problem with this risky move is they have no idea what he will do or say if they call him to testify.

It could easily backfire on the defense big time.

Then they have given the state a chance to cross examine him and he may know things that will hurt their client even more that would have remained unknown to the jury if they hadn't called him.

It's a very risky move for the defense since DK has no legal obligation to talk to anyone with the defense.

It would be like pulling the trigger of a firearm hoping it isnt loaded yet finding out too late its cocked and fully loaded.

The state could easily tell the jury during closing they did not call him since he is not involved in murdering the victims.
But telling the jury the defense had every legal right to call him if they had chosen to do so.

Imo

 

[asyousay]

The hate of summer is really something

Yep but again I find it very telling as the murders to me were so over kill and brutal and points to somebody who was closer to the family than a stranger as it seems personal.

 

[Edmo]

The feed is just the worst today. They are allegedly “working on it”. Ha.

I really would have liked to hear the entire part about how Joey was so generous with everything and Summer wanted what was hers to stay hers. Sigh. I think that’s an important nugget of what CM’s motivation might have been.

Imo.

CM also stated he was having financial problems the last 6-7 months and blamed it on the "business slowdown." What he really meant to say he has a gambling problem and needed to steal from JM.

 

[Kittybunny]

As a big picture gal, I find the agonizing slow "death by 1000 cuts" (thanks to @mrjitty for that perfect turn of phrase) method of introducing reasonable doubt by the defense intolerable, and this is one of the worst! In general, I don't have the patience for following trial threads - in Law & Order parlance, I'm interested in the Law part, not the Order!

The pieces of this puzzle were compelling enough for me to feel that CM was beyond a reasonable doubt guilty so long ago, that I've been screaming "GET ON WITH IT!" for too long. The nitpicking, the vague insinuations towards the family, Summer, the detectives, DK, etc. and etc. by the defense don't interest me. I realize it's their job, it's our judicial system, it's the process, but boy is it tedious and annoying to me! I know, I know, I don't have to watch or read. I'll show myself out. LOL.

Before I do though, just want to shout out to everyone who is interested and dedicated to justice for the McStays. It's been a long long road. Stay the course. Wake me when it's all over (sometime in 2020, I'm guessing!).

 

[Texas Red]

Exhibit one billion and one of why never to do an interview with the police when you did some murders

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 5m5 minutes ago
#McStay - Female investigator on the phone says to Merritt, "You've talked about Joe in the past tense a few times, any reason you would do that?" Merritt: "No, I never really thought of him as possibility being dead, no I can't say that because I have."

It’s difficult to get a read on Merritt, you would think if he was able to orchestrate this whole charade including the misdirection pointing to Mexico, he wouldn’t say something like that. His behavior and statements made durning the interview could be a continuation of his misdirection ploy, with CM thinking that the investigator certainly wouldn’t expect the guilty party to say something so obviously incriminating. After all CM was well versed in poker strategy.

 

[thelmadawg]

Remember Mike supposedly told the detectives that he drove by the house on the 6th but then on cross they cleared that up on redirect because he later that night told another detective it was Chase that drove by the house on that day. I think Mike may have some kind of minor disability that makes him mix up his words or get confused. At times he is socially awkward. many people mistake that for deception or dishonesty. It seems the detectives were even somewhat suspicious of him.

Agreed. I also believe that he will disassemble and avoid a full truth at times, but not as a dangerous or compulsive liar. Perhaps a bit ADHD, too. For instance he may have told the first detective that he drove by the house initially, because it would have seemed more meaningful than to say just a contractor drove by. He may have also felt a bit guilty as time went by that he didn't act immediately on his Dad's request. No harm, no foul until we get to the homicide investigation where every word counts.

 

[Edmo]

The L&C site has 5 different livestreams going rn. The only 2 that work flawlessly are the Florida Courts. The other 3 don't work at all. Just an FYI for anyone who has come in late.

It appears to be back up !

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 53m53 minutes ago
#McStay - We are LIVE. We pick up where we left off yesterday with Merritt's police interview on Feb 17, 2010. Watch Live: https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/charles-merritt/watch-live-charles-merritt-trial-for-murder-of-couple-and-children-2/ …

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Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 35m35 minutes ago
#McStay - Detective asks Merritt to walk her through his day on Monday, Feb 8th, 2010. It was President's Day. Merritt is now on the phone with his girlfriend asking her to help him remember.

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 36m36 minutes ago
#McStay - 2/17/10 police interview: Merritt is on the phone, "She said we were home", talking about Monday, Feb 8.

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 32m32 minutes ago
#McStay - Female investigator on the phone says to Merritt, "You've talked about Joe in the past tense a few times, any reason you would do that?" Merritt: "No, I never really thought of him as possibility being dead, no I can't say that because I have."

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 31m31 minutes ago
#McStay - 2/17/10 interview: Merritt says, "Oh I did?" regarding talking about Joseph in the past tense. He is now asked about a cut on his hand. He said he cut it on a piece of sheet metal. He's asked if he has any other injuries anywhere else, he says no.

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 30m30 minutes ago
#McStay - Merritt: "I don't really have any real explanation of why Joseph would just disappear. Joseph has no enemies that I know of."
Det.: "What about Summer?"
Merritt: "I don't know if she knows enough people to have enemies."

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 29m29 minutes ago
#McStay - Investigators ask Merritt about Summer. He says "She's just...uh...everyone told Joseph not to marry her." Merritt says Joseph would always say, "Oh she's just Columbian."

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Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 28m28 minutes ago
#McStay - Merritt says he had a running tab with Joseph. He gives the example, "He owed me $10K, I owed him $15K" Merritt said Summer never liked that deal with him.

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 28m28 minutes ago
#McStay - Merritt says he usually pays cash for everything and doesn't really owe a lot of money.

 

[ehenson88]

The L&C site has 5 different livestreams going rn. The only 2 that work flawlessly are the Florida Courts. The other 3 don't work at all. Just an FYI for anyone who has come in late.

It appears to be back up !

Super frustrating currently watching their livestream on Facebook but of course they cut in and out to jabber on and do commercials