CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[asyousay]

I think those keys will be VERY important in the future. I noticed that as well. He was tapping the table repeatedly with his left hand.

Yes I noticed that as well, something got him rattled.

 

[Edmo]

Chase seemingly giving instructions to his team there. He seemed quite animated. Now he is in a huddle with one of his team.

He seems shaken to me.

The remains didn't phase him, but those keys/bleach stains sure did !

 

[Tortoise]

screenshots of the sledgehammer - click to enlarge

 

[Mony Mony]

I would imagine the defense would not like the jury physically handling the evidence. Just makes the crime that more real/brutal.

 

[citygirl]

Chase seemingly giving instructions to his team there. He seemed quite animated. Now he is in a huddle with one of his team.

He seems shaken to me.

I wish we had better reporting from people in the courtroom. What is his demeanor ? We only get live snippets from behind. To me, he seems cool, calm and collected, as though he is an equal member of the defense team. And he is viewing gruesome crime scenes of his BEST friend and his babies. Can't help but wonder what the jury is thinking especially after his long interview with the police where he trashes everyone but Joseph. And what did they think when he said I need to call my wife (who by all accounts is not his legal wife) and ask her what we were doing? What did she say? And does this make her complicit? So many questions.

 

[missy1974]

yep...something about the bleach (or possibly the key found in JM's right pocket) bothered him IMO

I didn't get to see all the testimony, but did they just show 1 key? In OS's there was a picture of 3 keys...

 

[Plumeria5]

Just as the jury was doing the physical examination of some of the grave items there was a bit of a scrum at the defense table. They really did not appear happy. Perhaps because the judge allowed Ms. Radeleff to say the stain on sweatpants seemed like bleach? Not sure. But something didn’t please them, Imo.

Bleach on her pants...bleach on the carpet...right?

 

[Tortoise]

I didn't get to see all the testimony, but did they just show 1 key? In OS's there was a picture of 3 keys...

A single key found in right pocket of Joey's shorts. It looked to me like a smaller padlock key.

The other keys were in his left back pocket.

 

[Edmo]

I didn't get to see all the testimony, but did they just show 1 key? In OS's there was a picture of 3 keys...

They showed several different keys recovered from the pockets of JM.

 

[Edmo]

A single key found in right pocket of Joey's shorts. It looked to me like a smaller padlock key.

The other keys were in his left back pocket.

Maybe a Storage/Pods key ????

 

[Edmo]

Bleach on her pants...bleach on the carpet...right?

Good connection !

 

[Tortoise]

Bleach on her pants...bleach on the carpet...right?

To me it seemed as if some of the bleach stains looked like they were made after the sweatpants were balled up because they had the appearance of tie-dye, where only the outer exposed parts get bleached, a bit like a concertina or pleated effect. But I could have been looking at the wrong parts and assuming that was the bleached areas when it might have been mud stains.

 

[missy1974]

A single key found in right pocket of Joey's shorts. It looked to me like a smaller padlock key.

The other keys were in his left back pocket.

Thanks! I will have to go back and watch testimony from earlier today (from what I read, the stream was awful anyway lol)

 

[Edmo]

Good connection !

This IS the 1st time I've seen him squirm in his seat. Luckily, L&C had the cameras on him at that moment !

 

[Tortoise]

Thanks! I will have to go back and watch testimony from earlier today (from what I read, the stream was awful anyway lol)

The stream has been brilliant since they came back from lunch. Haven't had to refresh once.

 

[Tortoise]

Now back from break

 

[missy1974]

To me it seemed as if some of the bleach stains looked like they were made after the sweatpants were balled up because they had the appearance of tie-dye, where only the outer exposed parts get bleached, a bit like a concertina or pleated effect. But I could have been looking at the wrong parts and assuming that was the bleached areas when it might have been mud stains.

I think it depends where the bleach is? I think it's in the middle and looks like it goes down the legs? But I do see what you are talking about too, could it be from being in the dirt for so long?

 

[asyousay]

I wish we had better reporting from people in the courtroom. What is his demeanor ? We only get live snippets from behind. To me, he seems cool, calm and collected, as though he is an equal member of the defense team. And he is viewing gruesome crime scenes of his BEST friend and his babies. Can't help but wonder what the jury is thinking especially after his long interview with the police where he trashes everyone but Joseph. And what did they think when he said I need to call my wife (who by all accounts is not his legal wife) and ask her what we were doing? What did she say? And does this make her complicit? So many questions.

I agree with this which is why it was really noticeable how agitated he got towards the end there. Something rattled his cage and it was interesting to watch him finally lose it.

 

[missy1974]

Actually the pic that I though was 3 keys, was actually is 4 keys. It's like they read my question haha

the top one looks like it could be the Isuzu key.

 

[Edmo]

Just curious: Who carries keys in their back pockets? I don't.