CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[missy1974]

Would urine bleach the carpet as well? What room were the bleach stains in?

No clue lol But we don't actually know what those stains were, no one tested them... other than a picture of the living room, I don't know that we have any corroboration that it was bleach, other than the prosecution implying it? They didn't even ask Susan or Mike about it, considering Susan was cleaning the house, I would think she would know? I don't think they asked McGyver about it either.

 

[Emi]

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#McStay - Lunch break until 1:30pm pst/4:30pm est.

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#McStay - Court is getting ready to resume.

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#McStay - Next witness for the state is crime scene specialist Heatherly Radeleff. Watch Live: https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/charles-merritt/watch-live-charles-merritt-trial-for-murder-of-couple-and-children-2/ …

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[asyousay]

I can’t believe they are off again tomorrow so we will have to wait until Monday. So frustrating to not lose track with so much down time.

 

[missy1974]

I can’t believe they are off again tomorrow so we will have to wait until Monday. So frustrating to not lose track with so much down time.

Right! I have been busy this week, and now tomorrow I'm home and they aren't in session Their times they are in session suck for this trial. And why do they have to have an hour and a half for lunch? can't they make a sandwich and eat it quick? haha

 

[missy1974]

Ok... here is a question that I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer...

IF that key (or possibly keys?) was Chase Merritt's key that Joey took back from him after he fired him... how did Chase get into the storage unit afterwards? Is there any indication that he couldn't get into the storage unit afterwards? that he was missing supplies, etc? I want to know if he still had his key to the storage unit....

 

[Emi]

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2h2 hours ago
#McStay - For the second time today Summer McStay's mom has walked out of the courtroom visibly upset.

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#McStay - Radeleff took photos at the burial site. She explains Dr. Grey also took photos. Left - towel. Right - 'woven type blanket'

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[oceanblueeyes]

One thing I was personally surprised about is how small the sledgehammer was. I guess I was expecting a longer handle as for somebody’s Joey size that’s why I am guessing he was beaten first as I can’t imagine him being able to sneak attack him with something that small.

Summer and the kids yes but Joey wasn’t small by any stretch.

What he used is a very deadly foreboding weapon. The shorter the handle the more control he had rather one with a long handle and it doesnt cause nearly as much blood spatter because he didnt have to raise it high.

It really reminds me somewhat of the bludgeoning weapon Joe Duncan used to bludgeon two large adults and one very muscular large teen to death before he kidnapped Shasta and Dylan. All 3 victims were much larger than Duncan.

It's not the handle that is the most dangerous...its the large blunt hammer head on the end.

Imo

 

[Emi]

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#McStay - Backpack recovered from grave B where Summer and 4 yr old Gianni's remains were.

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#McStay - Electrical cord socket found near the graves.

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#McStay - Pants and underwear found in the grave with Summer and Giani

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[missy1974]

ok wait.. maybe the panties/sweat pants weren't tested...

ETA: she knows they were sent for testing, she does not know what they were tested for.

 

[asyousay]

What he used is a very deadly foreboding weapon. The shorter the handle the more control he had rather one with a long handle and it doesnt cause nearly as much blood spatter because he didnt have to raise it high.

It really reminds me somewhat of the bludgeoning weapon Joe Duncan used to bludgeon two large adults and one very muscular large teen to death before he kidnapped Shasta and Dylan.

It's not the handle that is the most dangerous...its the large blunt hammer head on the end.

Imo

Thank you for such a detailed response, it shows how little I know about this stuff. It’s always good to learn new things on here.

I genuinely thought the longer the swing the more power behind it.

 

[mom2chloe]

I think those keys will be VERY important in the future. I noticed that as well. He was tapping the table repeatedly with his left hand.

It’s certainly possible that CM never thought to check the pockets of his decedants! The devil is in the details and I so hope these bleach and key issues lead to something definitive! Fingers crossed!

 

[KALI]

For me, the bleach means trying to destroy dna evidence from her rape.

Yes coz if it’s bleach it ties the killings to the home so they can’t have that.

 

[Edmo]

If SBSO found 4 homicide victim's buried in the desert, with stains found on clothing/material and did NOT test them for their contents, OMG is all I can say.

 

[Emi]

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#McStay - Close up on one-half of bra - bra had been cut in half down the middle of the cups. Crime scene tech says possible paint drips on the bra.

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#McStay - Torn towel found in the grave with Summer and Gianni. Left - at the scene. Right - laid out

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[missy1974]

If SBSO found 4 homicide victim's buried in the desert, with stains found on clothing/material and did NOT test them for their contents, OMG is all I can say.

I'm actually a little unsure of whether they did or didn't get tested... at first it sounded like they did, then not so sure, but then she indicated that they went for DNA testing... but still unsure about other testing. Of course, she doesn't really know after she is done with them, so we will see lol

 

[asyousay]

She seems to be done, I’m guessing they will finish now until Monday morning.




ETA - ok they have another 2 questions

 

[Emi]

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#McStay - Key found in Joseph McStay's pant pocket.

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#McStay - "Woven blanket" that had remnants of a pull-up from grave A. Joseph Jr. was in that grave, he had just turned 3 days before the family disappeared.

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#McStay - Red strap found on the ground north-west of grave B

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#McStay - Red strap on the left is from inside grave A. Strap on the right found on the ground north-west of grave b

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[Edmo]

ok wait.. maybe the panties/sweat pants weren't tested...

ETA: she knows they were sent for testing, she does not know what they were tested for.

IMO, NOT sending them for testing would have been a HUGE mistake in 4 body homicide with stains on clothes/materials.

 

[Texas Red]

Ok... here is a question that I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer...

IF that key (or possibly keys?) was Chase Merritt's key that Joey took back from him after he fired him... how did Chase get into the storage unit afterwards? Is there any indication that he couldn't get into the storage unit afterwards? that he was missing supplies, etc? I want to know if he still had his key to the storage unit....

I remember something about CM purchasing a new padlock from the manager of the storage complex.

 

[Emi]

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#McStay - Paint on handle of sledgehammer

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#McStay - Crime scene tech says this appears to be bleach on pants found in Summer's grave. Says from her experience this staining is consistent with bleach. Imes: Could it be from decomposition? Radeleff: No

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Cathy Russon on Twitter
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#CharlesMerritt is always very active in his defense. Takes a lot of notes, has a lot of conversation with attorneys.

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#McStay - 15 min afternoon break

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#McStay - This group of keys were found in the left back pocket of Joseph McStay's shorts. The single key was in his right front pocket

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