CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #6

[missy1974]

Items were found on his phone not his computer

Thank you! That's what I understood too... and it was from after they were found, but before he was arrested, right?

 

[katydid23]

Thank you! That's what I understood too... and it was from after they were found, but before he was arrested, right?

But we don't know, at this time, how long ago the photo/ss was taken. He may have had that on his phone for a few years.

 

[Chelly]

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson
#McStay - Lunch recess until 1:30 PST. Before lunch Det. Dan Hanke was on the stand testifying about the Feb 8 & 9 calls made to QuickBooks, and again going over the QuickBooks account, payees on it.

1:05 PM - 14 Feb 2019

 

[missy1974]

But we don't know, at this time, how long ago the photo/ss was taken. He may have had that on his phone for a few years.

Right. He may have. Or he may NOT have. I will wait. You all are free to speculate, but I'm going to wait to see it myself. What are the chances he had the same phone in 2013/14 that he had in 2010, knowing that he apparently changed companies in February 2010 as well. JMO

And I heard it as screenshot. Not picture.

 

[asyousay]

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson
#McStay - Lunch recess until 1:30 PST. Before lunch Det. Dan Hanke was on the stand testifying about the Feb 8 & 9 calls made to QuickBooks, and again going over the QuickBooks account, payees on it.

1:05 PM - 14 Feb 2019

I love it

You can’t make it up , their lunch break is longer than the testimony we have heard so far today.

 

[Emi]

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 6m6 minutes ago
#McStay - Lunch recess until 1:30 PST. Before lunch Det. Dan Hanke was on the stand testifying about the Feb 8 & 9 calls made to QuickBooks, and again going over the QuickBooks account, payees on it.

 

[missy1974]

The only thing that I learned from Hanke so far was... that the contact and custom account indeed had 2 different lists of Vendor's, from what I saw. Unfortunately because of the terrible stream, we are probably going to have to wait to watch it in it's entirety and make sense of it! I can't even try to rewind today because they have the live link there instead

 

[missy1974]

From chat on L&C:

AddiLawCrime: The issue is being dealt with, we are currently working wiht the streaming service to get things working better. I've been in contact with tech for days now. Thanks for your patience

 

[A lucas]

Do any of you old timers here think/remember CM was on this forum in the early days. Chasing Waterfalls? Or am I losing the plot?

He may have grabbed a load of pics of stuff we were sharing between us. Phone records and so forth. Things that make you go hmmmm

 

[missy1974]

Do any of you old timers here think/remember CM was on this forum in the early days. Chasing Waterfalls? Or am I losing the plot?

ohhh that would be interesting! I know Mikey posted on the InSession forum when they first disappeared. And I believe a poster there was also Gina Watson (the woman that was helping Patrick). But I have never heard that Chase posted here or anywhere (other than on a DailyMail article I believe? someone had pointed it out to me when the trial first started)

 

[katydid23]

Right. He may have. Or he may NOT have. I will wait. You all are free to speculate, but I'm going to wait to see it myself. What are the chances he had the same phone in 2013/14 that he had in 2010, knowing that he apparently changed companies in February 2010 as well. JMO

And I heard it as screenshot. Not picture.

I change phones frequently. But all my old photos are carried over, transferred automatically to the new phone.

 

[travelbug]

While I am all for discussing theories, currently I attach no seriousness to the idea that Chase was authorised to create these cheques for the following reasons

1. The obvious prima facie conclusion is these cheques are fraudulent - that natural inference holds until disturbed

2. A course of dealing in running the custom account including deleting cheques actually cashed cannot be spoken into existence by defence counsel

3. Such course of dealing must be evidenced at trial - burden is on the defence to raise it as an issue

4. Such course of dealing cannot be evidenced by experts - it must be evidenced by those with direct knowledge e.g Testimony from CM

I feel like we are going down a rabbit hole that the defendant himself will not testify to.

BBM
It troubles me greatly that the emphasis of this thread is "CM is guilty, go ahead and try to prove him innocent". I am aware that not all posters are familiar with the USA jury trial system, but I believe it needs to be stated once again, IN A COURT OF LAW THE DEFENDANT IS CONSIDERED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Those of us who are questioning the evidence and analyzing the facts deserve to be treated respectfully (instead of simply being described as "nerdish"). I have spent the past 51 years involved with CA Govt., Courts, Politics, criminal appeals, etc. I don't have a horse in this race, but my experience within those arenas has taught me to question everything. I don't know who is responsible for the "murder" of this precious family, but I do hold the state responsible for PROVING guilt BARD.

For what it's worth, my opinion of why the State seems so unprepared is that they have not been able to prove guilt (BARD) to their own satisfaction. SBSO rushed to arrest CM when they did for political reasons. It never occurred to them the SDS had been so inept at investigating the disappearance and gathering conclusive evidence. For those who are convinced I think DK did it, you are wrong. I do not believe either DK or CM brutally murdered a beautiful family they had been close to. I have thoughts about others, several have never even been mentioned on this thread, who may have wanted the family to disappear.

I do know that just yesterday PM stated that there was no proof that Joey made it back to the Avocado house after his lunch meeting. He is 100% certain of that, so how does that fit with the entire family being killed in that location?

JMHO

 

[A lucas]

ohhh that would be interesting! I know Mikey posted on the InSession forum when they first disappeared. And I believe a poster there was also Gina Watson (the woman that was helping Patrick). But I have never heard that Chase posted here or anywhere (other than on a DailyMail article I believe? someone had pointed it out to me when the trial first started)

I may be completely wrong but I do recall some of us commenting about a particular poster.

Truth is it would be the perfect place to come if you had committed the murder to see where people’s heads were at and if you were being shortlisted as the perp!

 

[katydid23]

Right. He may have. Or he may NOT have. I will wait. You all are free to speculate, but I'm going to wait to see it myself. What are the chances he had the same phone in 2013/14 that he had in 2010, knowing that he apparently changed companies in February 2010 as well. JMO

And I heard it as screenshot. Not picture.

The 'screenshot' vs 'picture' confuses me. I always thought that to do a screenshot, you needed to be on a computer or a tablet.

How do you get a screenshot on your phone, except by taking a picture of it?

 

[mrjitty]

Dan profited quarter of a million dollars after Joey disappeared How? lol

What testimony was this?

 

[Mica]

Delete

 

[Alisajo]

I could be completely wrong, but my "women's intuition" is telling me, that CM may have been trying to put some sort of "moves" on SM and she rejected him (that could also be an explanation for him hanging around their house, constantly). His comment about her and JM "not having sex for over a year," sticks in my head. If he was bold enough to keep stealing/conning money out of the guy, what would stop him from trying to bed his wife, as well? Whenever he has spoken of her, there's so much bitterness. I think she rebuffed him and probably told JM about something untoward happening, also.

I agree with you. His responses are not normal regarding Summer & the way he spoke of the children. The children Chase would have known from berth.

 

[asyousay]

The 'screenshot' vs 'picture' confuses me. I always thought that to do a screenshot, you needed to be on a computer or a tablet.

How do you get a screenshot on your phone, except by taking a picture of it?

He would of used his phone to take a screen shot of Joeys computer screen hence it being a screen shot.

 

[travelbug]

Sorry Mica my error I've changed it to Joey. Too much stuff rolling around in my old brain.

 

[Mica]

Sorry Mica my error I've changed it to Joey. Too much stuff rolling around in my old brain.

Ok, thanks. I’ll delete my post.