CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #7

[Mica]

That's the way it's worded lol

I noticed on all the exhibits the dna is either “assumed or possible sources.” Is this standard wording for dna results? No definite confirmation of results?

 

[missy1974]

I noticed on all the exhibits the dna is either “assumed or possible sources.” Is this standard wording for dna results? No definite confirmation of results?

It's different from what I have seen in other cases...

 

[Edmo]

I noticed on all the exhibits the dna is either “assumed or possible sources.” Is this standard wording for dna results? No definite confirmation of results?

The DNA expert can only testify to what he did/found, IMO.

 

[Tortoise]

cross-exam starting

 

[missy1974]

shocker....

CORRECTION: Triall WILL END at 3:45pm PST today

Judge has an appointment.

Pull the dang tooth already!!!! LOL

 

[Recidivist]

L&C should have an amazing stream about this case. OMG . . .

I haven't been able to get the stream at all today.

 

[missy1974]

I haven't been able to get the stream at all today.

oh no... have you tried this link?
Watch Live: McStay Family Murder Trial Day 20

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I noticed on all the exhibits the dna is either “assumed or possible sources.” Is this standard wording for dna results? No definite confirmation of results?

I dont think they ever give definitive results. They just give the numbers.

 

[JMarsh]

I didn't ask for nor do I expect a pic of CM in the trooper.

All I am saying is CM's answer sounded formulated/manufactured TO ME when asked if he had ever been in the Trooper (aka little white hatchback car). That's it.

Here's another thought along this line. If Chase lied about being a passenger in the Trooper, how would this have helped him?

If Chase wanted to explain his DNA on the steering wheel, wouldn't a lie about having driven the Trooper be more effective?

Who would there be to contradict him?

 

[Edmo]

Here's another thought along this line. If Chase lied about being a passenger in the Trooper, how would this have helped him?

If Chase wanted to explain his DNA on the steering wheel, wouldn't a lie about having driven the Trooper be more effective?

Who would there be to contradict him?

It wouldn't, IMO. He places himself inside the Trooper, yet his DNA is found on several different areas of the Trooper.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Steering wheel swabs.

at least 3 individuals.
JM major
SM trace
Minor contributor, Merritt included as a potential.

1 in 4.3 billion African Americans, 1 in 850 million Caucasions, 1 in 10 million hispanics

I thought you had said earlier they did one swab for all areas?

This is just from the swab taken of the steering wheel alone,right, or am I missing something? Lol

Tia

 

[JMarsh]

I dont think they ever give definitive results. They just give the numbers.

What they give is a number representing that the probability that the DNA profile belongs to anyone other than "such and such a person" is 1 in...whatever the number is.

 

[Recidivist]

oh no... have you tried this link?
Watch Live: McStay Family Murder Trial Day 20

Yes. Thank you. I have tried everything since this morning. Nothing is working. I get only a black screen. I am hoping tomorrow will be better.

 

[missy1974]

I thought you had said earlier they did one swab for all areas?

This is just from the swan taken of the steering wheel alone,right, or am I missing something? Lol

Tia

Right. The steering wheel was 1 swab.

All the other area's were a collective swab... 2 swabs, but those were used to swab all areas.

We have already heard testimony weeks ago about it being collected I will include photo's of the swab packaging, might help make sense of it

 

[JMarsh]

It wouldn't, IMO. He places himself inside the Trooper, yet his DNA is found on several different areas of the Trooper.

Chase is a MINOR contributor to DNA on the steering wheel. His DNA is found in trace amounts on the other areas-and because there were swabs that covered more than one area, we don't know specifically where that other DNA was located. Only generally.

 

[missy1974]

we are back to blah blah blah testimony LOL Guessing the defense is getting Jones to testify to what they are going to bring up in their own case, to help support it.

 

[Edmo]

Chase is a MINOR contributor to DNA on the steering wheel. His DNA is found in trace amounts on the other areas-and because there was one were swabs that covered more than one area, we don't know specifically where that other DNA was located. Only generally.

Trace or NOT, HIS DNA IS found on those items.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It wouldn't, IMO. He places himself inside the Trooper, yet his DNA is found on several different areas of the Trooper.

I think what the jury will take notice of is he emphatically said he only had ever been on the passenger side six weeks prior to them going missing, yet the places where his DNA is found is counter opposing to that statement.

Where it is being found is more like he was a driver, than a passenger.

Imo

 

[JMarsh]

Trace or NOT, HIS DNA IS found on those items.

Of course. But DNA can get onto objects in many different ways.

 

[Edmo]

we are back to blah blah blah testimony LOL Guessing the defense is getting Jones to testify to what they are going to bring up in their own case, to help support it.

I *believe* the Defense is trying for "unknown" persons DNA being found in the graves. However, so far, the Pros expert testified NOTHING of any DNA has been found in the graves, so far.