CA CA - JOSEPH NASO, once a suspect in NY Alphabet Murders, now on trial in California

[jackornaught]

Naso scribbled something on this photo. I think it's 8619. 1986? Whatever it is, it's secret.

Last 4 of a phone number? or social... could be anything I guess.

Last 4 of a phone number? or social... could be anything I guess.

It is the California code for replacing wood that was damaged by a rodent as well. Was he ever in pest control?

 

[Beekarina]

That is super odd. Not to have run away imagination, but did he ever poison victims? i.e rat poison came to mind when I read that....yikes

 

[Daphne1972]

Last 4 of a phone number? or social... could be anything I guess.

It is the California code for replacing wood that was damaged by a rodent as well. Was he ever in pest control?

This opens up a whole new avenue of possibilities. If it's poison to block coagulation, it's painless!

 

[Wilma_W]

There will be a new TV show about Joseph Naso's crimes on Oxygen:

Fellow Inmate of Serial Killer Joseph Naso Helps Link Him To Other Crimes from Behind Bars | Oxygen

And a related series of stories in Vanity Fair:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/death-row-murderer-exposed-serial-killer-case-part-1

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/death-row-murderer-exposed-serial-killer-case-part-2

 

[Leprikawn]

Naso is a frustrating killer. I wish he would open up and confess its not like things could get worse for him.

 

[Daphne1972]

Joseph Naso left 2 bodies on Mt. Tamalpais in Marin County, according to 'Death Row Confidential: Secrets of a Serial Killer' | abc7news.com

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abc7news.com

Read it! Pamela Lambson was his victim!
He confersed5btw that he killed 26 women!

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Bill Noguera tells us Naso described leaving a second victim on Mt. Tam -- a young woman with red hair and blue eyes in May 1975. "He's an extremely twisted, narcissistic, rapist, serial killer that has no qualities of redemption," Noguera said. "This man was built to kill, and that's what he did for a very long time."

 

[Daphne1972]

She's definitely not a redhead but could this be the 1975 victim he mentions? There two victims, Pamela Lambson and another. Now was feathered hair already a thing in 1975?

PS what the frick is she holding? Wooden thing with a heart and a triangle.

 

[Daphne1972]

I had also had pictures of a strawberry blonde girl but with yellowish eyes. Can't find het right now.

Edit: here's one photo.

 

[Passeridae]

Two more stories about this update:

Convicted Serial Killer Joseph Naso Confesses to 26 Murders in New Documentary

In a new documentary airing on Oxygen, convicted serial killer and rapist Joseph Naso confessed to killing 26 victims, including 19-year-old Pamela Lambson on Mount Tam in 1977, originally pinned on “The Dating Game Killer” in 2011.

sfist.com

Alphabet Serial Killer May Be Linked to More Murders

Convicted "Alphabet Killer" Joseph Naso may have slain far more than four women, raising new questions for families and police.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Passeridae]

She's definitely not a redhead but could this be the 1975 victim he mentions? There two victims, Pamela Lambson and another. Now was feathered hair already a thing in 1975?

PS what the frick is she holding? Wooden thing with a heart and a triangle.

I'm really bad with faces. I don't think this is her (and I know other POIs have been floated in her case and the MO really doesn't seem like Naso), but I just want to run it by others.

Amanda Schumann Deza was found in a refrigerator in the California Delta in 1995; she was believed to have been dead at least six months. She was last seen alive in Napa County, and was identified in 2023. There are a couple of photos here: ‘The lady in the fridge’ identified through DNA analysis 27 years after murder

There are additional photos on her FindAGrave page, but I'm not sure that's appropriate to link.

ETA: One of the main reasons I wonder is that one of the shorter routes between Napa and Holt, where Amanda was found, goes through Crockett, where Carmen Colon was found, and Port Costa, which is on Naso's list, and it's also between where he lived at the time and Stockton. I also think Naso would be familiar with Holt because of where he lived at the time. I don't think the case fits his known MO, though.

 

[Passeridae]

I might have found another match for one of the pictures of potential Naso victims:
Donna Marie Larrabee. She got on a bus to CA in 1976, never to be seen again.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Did anyone ever hear back about this? It definitely looks like her to me, but I'm bad with faces. The smiles look very similar, though.

 

[Daphne1972]

I'm really bad with faces. I don't think this is her (and I know other POIs have been floated in her case and the MO really doesn't seem like Naso), but I just want to run it by others.

Amanda Schumann Deza was found in a refrigerator in the California Delta in 1995; she was believed to have been dead at least six months. She was last seen alive in Napa County, and was identified in 2023. There are a couple of photos here: ‘The lady in the fridge’ identified through DNA analysis 27 years after murder

There are additional photos on her FindAGrave page, but I'm not sure that's appropriate to link.

ETA: One of the main reasons I wonder is that one of the shorter routes between Napa and Holt, where Amanda was found, goes through Crockett, where Carmen Colon was found, and Port Costa, which is on Naso's list, and it's also between where he lived at the time and Stockton. I also think Naso would be familiar with Holt because of where he lived at the time. I don't think the case fits his known MO, though.

No she isn't any of the two girls. These ladies are from the 70s though the strawberry blonde girl also fits the 90s.

Anyways no one on the pictures released from the now defunct website Murdersquad are redheads.

 

[Daphne1972]

She's definitely not a redhead but could this be the 1975 victim he mentions? There two victims, Pamela Lambson and another. Now was feathered hair already a thing in 1975?

PS what the frick is she holding? Wooden thing with a heart and a triangle.

I btw already sent a possible match a few years ago to Namus. Can't right now remember the name.

 

[Daphne1972]

Not 1 on the list by the is girl from Healdsburg near Mendocino. Can't this be mount Tam.

 

[sunspun]

UP11798 could be "Girl on Mt. Tam".
As for "Girl near Healdsburg (Mendocino Co.), could that be Barbara Jean Stroud? She was found near Willits, which is about 70 miles away, but it's been noted that Naso's list of 10 wasn't updated immediately after his crimes, so perhaps the location is inaccurate. Willits is part of Mendocino County.
As for "Girl from Miami near Down Peninsula"... I'm not sure what "Down Peninsula" is, but I searched Florida's unsolved homicide listings and found two potential matches: Bobbie Jo Fitts (11-22-1987) and Christine Trespasso (07-01-1988, sometimes spelled as Christine Trapasso). Both victims were found strangled in wooded areas.
As for "Girl from Berkeley", I'm stumped.

I know this post is a few years old, but I read it today, then continued reading all the posts after it up til the current latest post. In one of the more recent posts, I saw someone posted the actual image of the page where Naso wrote the part referenced in this post about "Miami near down peninsula."

I just wanted to point out when I read that in his writings, I read it as "Miami down near peninsula", not "Miami near down peninsula", as the post above wrote it. I think that makes a big difference.

I asked ChatGPT about it, and it said, "When someone says they were 'in Miami down near peninsula,' they are referring to the area at the southernmost tip of the main Florida peninsula. Miami-Dade County occupies this location, bounded by the Everglades to the west, the Atlantic Ocean to the east, and the Florida Keys to the south." That's probably not adding much helpful info though.

Maybe this is obvious, maybe it's irrelevant, or maybe I've read it incorrectly, I don't know, but I thought I'd point it out in case it helps anyone researching this case.

 

[Wilma_W]

I know this post is a few years old, but I read it today, then continued reading all the posts after it up til the current latest post. In one of the more recent posts, I saw someone posted the actual image of the page where Naso wrote the part referenced in this post about "Miami near down peninsula."

I just wanted to point out when I read that in his writings, I read it as "Miami down near peninsula", not "Miami near down peninsula", as the post above wrote it. I think that makes a big difference.

I asked ChatGPT about it, and it said, "When someone says they were 'in Miami down near peninsula,' they are referring to the area at the southernmost tip of the main Florida peninsula. Miami-Dade County occupies this location, bounded by the Everglades to the west, the Atlantic Ocean to the east, and the Florida Keys to the south." That's probably not adding much helpful info though.

Maybe this is obvious, maybe it's irrelevant, or maybe I've read it incorrectly, I don't know, but I thought I'd point it out in case it helps anyone researching this case.

I believe that the note mentioning Miami actually referred to a location in San Francisco - this is detailed in one of the Vanity Fair articles linked in post #204. (It won't let me read them again as I have reached my limit of free articles from Vanity Fair.)

 

[sunspun]

I believe that the note mentioning Miami actually referred to a location in San Francisco - this is detailed in one of the Vanity Fair articles linked in post #204. (It won't let me read them again as I have reached my limit of free articles from Vanity Fair.)

I'm talking about the 5th entry on this list. Is that the one you meant?

 

[Wilma_W]

I'm talking about the 5th entry on this list. Is that the one you meant?

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Yes. I think they originally thought it referred to Miami FL, but it referred to someplace in the Bay area. Sorry I'm not going to be a lot of help here since I can't look it up again. If you haven't read any articles on Vanity Fair, it should let you read both of them. And when the TV show comes on (I think it starts mid-September) that should cover it as well, though I don't know how many episodes there are.

 

[krats2005]

I wonder why the killer did not go in alphabetical order though, and why did he stop? I grew up in the area, but was very young when this happened, and do not remember much. I will say that all the locations where the bodies were dumped were more rural areas, outside the city of Rochester.

The killer probably went with the children who's parents are less attentive to them verses the parents that make it a point to know where and what their children are doing/going. Parents that are less attentive will take longer to realize their child/children are gone. Also, the killer could have known of or worked under the mother or father and was fired or laid off and held a grudge about it.

 

[Daphne1972]

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/marin-county-detectives-blame-wrong-killer-1977-21022480.php

Wow! He confessed to killing Lynn Ruth Connes!