Found Deceased CA - Juliani Cardenas, 4, Patterson, 18 January 2011 - #2

[Columbo]

I hope her life ahead will be peaceful--and she won't get involved with any more creeps! It's better to be single than hook up with a criminal !!!!

 

[passionflower]

Body found in canal where kidnapped boy discovered

A man's body matching the description of the suspect in the kidnapping of a 4-year-old boy was found Saturday morning in a Central California canal.

An autopsy scheduled for Tuesday will reveal the final results, but Stanislaus County Sheriff's detectives said that a water district employee found a body floating in the Delta-Mendota Canal south of Patterson at 8:30 a.m.

more at http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17372861?nclick_check=1


Thankfully.......now Tabitha can have some peace of mind.

HLN just said this body is likely to be Jose..........

 

[panthera]

HLN just said this body is likely to be Jose..........

The article I linked yesterday also said the body of a Hispanic male was wearing clothing that matched what Rodriguez had on. Has to be him. MOO

 

[suzyq211]

Good riddance, and now perhaps this poor woman can find some semblance of peace to raise her baby.What a tragic set of circumstances! RIP little Juliani!

 

[katydid23]

Good riddance, and now perhaps this poor woman can find some semblance of peace to raise her baby.What a tragic set of circumstances! RIP little Juliani!

Amen. But I just now saw a short clip on the news showing the pregnant mother making a comment about the body being found.

She announced that she was naming her unborn baby girl Julianni in tribute to her son.

AWWWWWWW. Please do not saddle that poor baby with her dead brothers name. Nooooo. I just feel awful for that little baby if mom does that.

Maybe I am wrong...but it just feels sad to me. She will have the burden of being the daughter of the killer and the name of the victim forever.

 

[sarx]

Amen. But I just now saw a short clip on the news showing the pregnant mother making a comment about the body being found.

She announced that she was naming her unborn baby girl Julianni in tribute to her son.

AWWWWWWW. Please do not saddle that poor baby with her dead brothers name. Nooooo. I just feel awful for that little baby if mom does that.

Maybe I am wrong...but it just feels sad to me. She will have the burden of being the daughter of the killer and the name of the victim forever.

I agree.

 

[peeples]

I agree as well I cringed when I read that

 

[LCoastMom]

I read that Tabitha said she was naming the baby girl Juliani, this morning. I was hoping that was a misprint. Maybe whatever professional (hopefully she is seeing one) - will suggest she might want to reconsider.

I also hope this baby is not given Jose's last name.

 

[MsFacetious]

You can thank people on facebook.... they are the ones who suggested she name her daughter that. She had intended before this happened to include Jose's name in there and now I can not remember how. (Josie?) They suggested she not do that and instead name her Julianna.

I actually think that maybe as a middle name it wouldn't be too bad. That might be a compromise Tabitha could handle. Giving her another first name, then Julianna as a middle name. Still able to honor him... that might be enough.

If someone has a facebook, they might suggest that to her. That if this child is named Julianna she may feel like a replacement... like she has to live up to Juliani. Living up to someone that is no longer here is impossible. They cannot do anything wrong anymore. It doesn't matter if Tabitha doesn't feel she is replacing Juliani, or that she was already pregnant. That could easily be how her child feels later.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...wall#!/profile.php?id=100000128784749&sk=wall


I also hope that Tabitha and Jose's Mom stay on good terms. I hope Jose's Mom will understand him not being on the birth certificate and not giving the baby his last name. I hope Tabitha will understand if Jose's Mom wants to be involved in the baby's life and will respect that. I don't want to see this child end up in the middle of a court battle.

 

[katydid23]

I agree that giving her a middle name with J or something like that is appropriate. But not the same exact name. That is just too much of a burden for the little girl. IMO

And I agree about the last name. The sperm donor is no longer with us, of his own accord. So he chose not to be part of her life.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

I agree that naming her the exact same thing doesn't sound healthy, for mom or for baby. Maybe a middle name, or a variation. Adji Desir's parents named his baby sister Adjiana. I thought that was cute. But you all make good points.

 

[panthera]

Juliana would be a nice middle name, along with using Tabitha's surname. Eventually telling the little girl about her father and Juliani will be hard enough without adding the burden of his name. MOO

 

[katydid23]

I agree that naming her the exact same thing doesn't sound healthy, for mom or for baby. Maybe a middle name, or a variation. Adji Desir's parents named his baby sister Adjiana. I thought that was cute. But you all make good points.

I think it was fine in Adjiana's case because her father did not kill her older brother and then himself. That is a burden this poor baby will have to live with.

 

[MsFacetious]

We can all take a very big deep breath.... this baby has "her own name." :seeya:

Jo. Rhi. is due to arrive Thursday (or Friday if she is stubborn I guess.) :great:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/tabithaandjuliani?sk=wall

A bit of happiness for this family. I hope that they can enjoy it.

Hopefully baby Jo. will just bring back good memories and not bad memories... :heartluv:

 

[Texas Mist]

Baby brings joy to mom of boy who was kidnapped, killed
Mother who just lost son giving birth to girl

Weeks after losing her son, Tabitha Cardenas was preparing Thursday to give birth to a baby girl at a Modesto hospital.

Family friend and Patterson City Councilwoman Annette Smith confirmed Cardenas went to the hospital early Thursday and took medication to induce labor. By evening, Smith said Cardenas was still in labor and going to deliver late in the evening or early this morning.

Thursday was one week before her due date — March 3.


more here

http://www.modbee.com/2011/02/24/1572223/baby-turns-tears-to-smiles.html

 

[MsFacetious]

Tabitha Cardenas, the pregnant mom whose 4-year-old son Juliani was killed by her ex-boyfriend in a suspected case of murder-suicide last month in Patterson, remains in labor this morning, according to family friend and Patterson City Councilwoman Annette Smith.

Cardenas went to the hospital on Thursday to deliver the baby, Smith said.

Smith texted a reporter at 8:38 a.m. on Friday, writing: "Still going to be awhile."

http://www.modbee.com/2011/02/24/1572223/baby-turns-tears-to-smiles.html#ixzz1Ezl6CI8K

 

[Texas Mist]

AM UPDATE: Tabitha Cardenas, the pregnant mom whose 4-year-old son Juliani was killed by her ex-boyfriend in a suspected case of murder-suicide last month in Patterson, gave birth to a six-pound, 12-ounce baby girl at about 11:30 this morning, according to family friend and Patterson City Councilwoman Annette Smith.

JRC is 19 inches tall. She and mom are doing well, Smith said.



http://www.modbee.com/2011/02/24/1572223/baby-turns-tears-to-smiles.html

 

[LCoastMom]

Thank you for the updates - Welcome to the world precious baby girl.

I meant to post sooner - Juliani was laid to rest on 2/18/11.

 

[LCoastMom]

Juliani's Mom: New Baby Looks Like Jose Rodriguez

Video:

http://www.kcra.com/video/27043971/detail.html

Picture of Baby J:

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/27042132/detail.html

I hope Tabitha and Baby J do well.

 

[JLMcKenna83]

Body Identified as Amber Alert Kidnapper


snip...

STANISLAUS COUNTY — An adult male body pulled from the Delta-Mendota Canal has been identified as the man who kidnapped a 4-year-old boy in Patterson.