CA CA - Karlie Lain Gusé, 16, Mono County, 13 Oct 2018 #2

[Roxxi3535]

It's a corrupt dirty little town, I think it would he hard to fool both the FBI and Sheriff

No one is fooling the FBI, only Mono Sheriff, who declined their assistance from the jump.
Mono has rejected all offers of assistance from other LE agencies and believe it, it is documented, they declined outside help over political bad blood or for other unsavory reasons IMO. They are obviously not equipped to perform an investigation of this magnitude. They dont specialize in forensics, however, when this investigation called for forensics they decided they could determine dna by visual observation, oh and by asking the SM to identify the bloody clothing articles in question found during search efforts. Of course she said they werent Karlies. And the real issue with this is that she later came out saying she lied and didnt know what Karlie was last wearing because she was asleep when Karlie became a ninja and silently got dressed, tip toed her way through the house and out the front door while disoriented and delusional. Thats the longest lasting high Ive ever learned of. Seems like something only a sober and sane person might be able to pull off. Might.
So what was LE thinking going to her to begin with for identification purposes when according to SM they knew she had lied about the clothing description as she blamed them when she was caught in yet another lie. She said they asked her not to say anything to the media because this was an ongoing investigation, blah, blah, blah, lie, lie, lie and she regretfully deviated from their orders. (And Mono never argued that.) Why would SM lie again by acting like she knew what she was wearing when she admitted she didnt? She had no business identifying anything because she is not qualified in more ways than one. So much obvious destruction of potential evidence and thats why this case will never be solved. The Sheriff is either clueless and lacking knowledge of basic investigative procedures, or they have deliberately thrown this investigation to cover for their own mistakes. IMO, they failed to do their job properly and assumed that SM was being truthful. This could cost them their job. Thats a huge reason why the Sheriffs arent being truthful. IMO. They never treated the Guses home as a potential crime scene or eliminated the Guses as suspects which is standard protocol in a case like this. Instead, they showed up on scene hours later because they are such a busy department, with a cookie basket to offer their friendly support to concerned parents. They dropped the ball too many times to be credible.
This is the type of professionalism that Karlies investigation has been unjustly hindered by. No one ever cared about finding Karlie, they selfishly looked out for their own well being. IMOO, however, based on facts.

 

[Roxxi3535]

I think her hitch hiking is more likely than her being shoved into a car

Yep, incapacitated 16 yr olds hitchhike at 7 am on a desert hwy. How can she go from being delusional, scared and thinking people want to hurt her to coherently walking down the hwy thumb raised high, taking a ride from a stranger, possibly a predator that can actually do some real damage? Why would she do this? Consider who Karlie actually was as a person. She has never been described as a drug addicted idiot. She was a very nice kid who was well thought of. She has no history of running away. Thats absurd, it really is. Youre better off with the theory of her becoming lost in the desert, succumbing to the elements.

 

[Roxxi3535]

He's an attorney that contributes editorials-- which are his opinions only. Many form opinions ignoring the facts. MOO

Exactly, not credible or respectable in the profession of journalism. Just an attorney with a huge ego and no conscience.

 

[Roxxi3535]

Bingo, but you forget to add the scent dog to the conspiracy.

Damion's confirmation on the scent dogs? That would be like you making a claim and expecting us to believe it because what you say is fact.

 

[insearchoflight]

@Roxxi3535 I agree with a lot of your points. SM has lied in this case and it’s important to ask why.

I was actually impressed with the search efforts very early on in this case. I followed it from the start in real time and I was surprised they already had such a massive search including helicopters and ATVs that very afternoon for a teen that could have potentially just ran away. Honestly, LE did a good job there in my eyes.

There’s so much that doesn’t add up. SM changing stories, the idea that Karlie left in her state of mind without anything and just happened to also come upon an unsavory person, no evidence to indicate any sort of communication on her part that morning, the witnesses who claim to know her and saw her walking alone that morning, the amount of search effort very early on with no sign of her anywhere. Really, no theory makes sense at all. Nothing fits nice and neat. But something happened that’s for sure.

 

[Roxxi3535]

No I havent you got link to those? Like I said I havent followed this case much until this past week. The biological mother came off as odd to me from watching her segment on Dr Phil, but I expected that, have to be pretty weird for the mother not to have custody.

Sorry, I wont link that dudes articles because its just a bunch of trash that i prefer not to provide others the ease of access to. I wouldnt encourage anyone to read that garbage, its that ridiculous.
I dont think BM's behavior was odd. She also isnt involved in her childs disappearance so I really dont think an opinion of her is necessary.
But how about that SM? Pretty odd the number of lies she told. Pretty odd refusing not to cooperate with the producers request for the witnesses contact info and addresses. Also, denying the access to the audio recordings, that strikes me as odd too. Shes the only oddball in my book. Having your attorney barking orders at Dr. Phil with how he may interview the Guses is also pretty odd since theyre supposed to be such innocent and loving parents and have nothing to hide.

 

[Roxxi3535]

@Roxxi3535 I agree with a lot of your points. SM has lied in this case and it’s important to ask why.

I was actually impressed with the search efforts very early on in this case. I followed it from the start in real time and I was surprised they already had such a massive search including helicopters and ATVs that very afternoon for a teen that could have potentially just ran away. Honestly, LE did a good job there in my eyes.

There’s so much that doesn’t add up. SM changing stories, the idea that Karlie left in her state of mind without anything and just happened to also come upon an unsavory person, no evidence to indicate any sort of communication on her part that morning, the witnesses who claim to know her and saw her walking alone that morning, the amount of search effort very early on with no sign of her anywhere. Really, no theory makes sense at all. Nothing fits nice and neat. But something happened that’s for sure.

It definitely doesnt make any sense.

 

[Roxxi3535]

I believe Karlie made it to the highway & don't know what happened after that. I support this theory by posting the Dr. Phil video where he says that after listening to the tape he believes she was under the influence of a mind altering drug & with her degree of paranoia he's not surprised she would flee. Also the three witnesses of which 2 knew her, said they saw her. If any one has a different theory, post some evidence.

Dr. Phil is a paid actor, not a God.
In addition, his producers were denied access to the recordings. Why? Something isnt right about those recordings. SM didnt send him the audio, she let him listen while she guarded her phone. Why? What is she hiding? IMO, the timestamps dont jive.

 

[bwt42]

Dr. Phil is a paid actor, not a God.
In addition, his producers were denied access to the recordings. Why? Something isnt right about those recordings. SM didnt send him the audio, she let him listen while she guarded her phone. Why? What is she hiding? IMO, the timestamps dont jive.

I believe Dr Phil is more qualified & more impartial than most of us.

 

[bwt42]

If someone gives the wrong description of what they thought the person was wearing, some may call it a lie others may call it a mistake.

 

[insearchoflight]

If someone gives the wrong description of what they thought the person was wearing, some may call it a lie others may call it a mistake.

She also changed her story about what happened that morning. Her very first story was that Karlie was asleep in her own room and she checked on her early in the morning and she was asleep. Then story changed to they were sleeping in same bed together.

It really is alarming to have multiple untruths or changing stories when your child is missing. It’s a red flag, for sure.

 

[bwt42]

She also changed her story about what happened that morning. Her very first story was that Karlie was asleep in her own room and she checked on her early in the morning and she was asleep. Then story changed to they were sleeping in same bed together.

It really is alarming to have multiple untruths or changing stories when your child is missing. It’s a red flag, for sure.

Alarming maybe. She was probably trying to protect herself from criticism for being blamed for not properly taking care of Karlie. No red flags flying for me. jmo

 

[PixieStix]

You are right. I aimed that question at the wrong person. It was definitely brought to light by others and I shouldve directed it to the source, not you.
So, with that said, @Topppps and @insearchoflight where did you see the information regarding the search dogs? Mono Sheriff only mentioned that they were planning to bring in search dogs but I never read any details regarding the outcome on this.
The wooder? I really cannot see how anyone could believe this witness account. How could he have been confirmed by LE? Melissa didnt know the guys name and im sure he didnt loiter around waiting to speak to LE for 6-10 hrs. Kind of hard to confirm an unknown persons account, especially when its confirmed by SM.
Dutton, he doesnt live in the Guses neighborhood anymore. Dont know much about him but im sure if I dig a little I can debunk him too. Just like Mr. Eddy.
@Oraclle, you can disagree all you want but I find it hard to believe that Richard Eddy Jrs dad comes to his sons house to use the jacuzzi @ 6:30am. He has his own home 20-30 mins away, a nicer one, and at 78 yrs old I cant imagine he would show up to his sons at that hour for a dip in the hot tub and a coffee. And im not buying that they have father son sleepovers either. Its not likely.

BBM
I thought I remembered that LE utilized scent dogs right away after Karlie went missing, but it is over a year now, so I questioned my memory. I went searching and found this from the Mono County Sheriff's Office FB page. They did indeed use scent dogs within that first couple of days after she went missing. Link below.
Mono County Sheriff's Office

I have been following this case closely since the first reports of Karlie going missing. More importantly, I have followed the families' FB page about Karlie so I am well versed in the drama. I am not sure what to think of what happened to her. If everyone involved is telling the truth, I think the likely scenario is a crime of opportunity. Karlie could have walked off in a disoriented state and taken.

There are other theories on the table, but a crime of opportunity makes the most logical sense to me.

 

[PixieStix]

I also want to add that I am happy at the very least that more than 1 year later Karlie is still being discussed and has not been forgotten!

 

[Roxxi3535]

I believe Dr Phil is more qualified & more impartial than most of us.

I believe he is a millionaire with a scripted talk show posing as a doctor that has been very lucky in life. He did more damage to Karlies case than anything.
Hes not a doctor or a member of LE. He provides entertainment for an audience of bored housewives who believe he is the real deal. To each his own.

 

[Roxxi3535]

BBM
I thought I remembered that LE utilized scent dogs right away after Karlie went missing, but it is over a year now, so I questioned my memory. I went searching and found this from the Mono County Sheriff's Office FB page. They did indeed use scent dogs within that first couple of days after she went missing. Link below.
Mono County Sheriff's Office

They said there were plans to bring in scent dogs but that was it. They never went into detail about what they uncovered or if they were ever really used at all.

 

[PixieStix]

They said there were plans to bring in scent dogs but that was it. They never went into detail about what they uncovered or if they were ever really used at all.

Quote from the Sheriff's office.

"We have deployed multiple resources, including helicopters, scent dogs, Search and Rescue teams and off-road vehicles, to thoroughly search the surrounding neighborhood and high-desert terrain."

They directly state they deployed scent dogs. I don't believe LE is under any obligation to disclose every detail of an investigation, particularly what the scent dogs may or may not have found.

I am linking the post directly again.
Mono County Sheriff's Office

 

[Roxxi3535]

Alarming maybe. She was probably trying to protect herself from criticism for being blamed for not properly taking care of Karlie. No red flags flying for me. jmo

Well, thats what i would do, lie to the public to protect myself only to change my first lie into an even more incriminating one. Then expect the public to understand why she told unnecessary lies. Im no genius but thats just a foolish thing to do with an expectation so high. She was grasping for straws.

For me, its a very risky and calculated way to cover up her lies to suggest she was only cooperating with LE's orders not to say anything but if she really listened to those instructions she wouldnt be interviewing with any media source whatsoever. So this excuse should not be confused with the fact that she lied. She was not told to lie, she was told not to talk. She never cooperated and Mono shouldve spoke on this but they just let her make them look bad time and again.

Definitely protecting herself. Not a care in the world for Karlie though. Her lies have only hurt her. Not to mention how completely pointless they were. Lying like a guilty person. I mean, how many times did her boys actually go to bed that night according to her FB lives? I heard her lies running circles around her other lies. Not typical behavior for an innocent SM. JS.

 

[bwt42]

I believe he is a millionaire with a scripted talk show posing as a doctor that has been very lucky in life. He did more damage to Karlies case than anything.
Hes not a doctor or a member of LE. He provides entertainment for an audience of bored housewives who believe he is the real deal. To each his own.

He holds a doctorate in clinical psychology.

 

[Topppps]

Yep, incapacitated 16 yr olds hitchhike at 7 am on a desert hwy. How can she go from being delusional, scared and thinking people want to hurt her to coherently walking down the hwy thumb raised high, taking a ride from a stranger, possibly a predator that can actually do some real damage? Why would she do this? Consider who Karlie actually was as a person. She has never been described as a drug addicted idiot. She was a very nice kid who was well thought of. She has no history of running away. Thats absurd, it really is. Youre better off with the theory of her becoming lost in the desert, succumbing to the elements.

She smoked pot at a party freaked out and headed straight to an intersection in no man's land with no phone, you're giving her too much credit to make logical decisions