CA CA - Karlie Lain Gusé, 16, Mono County, 13 Oct 2018 #2

[insearchoflight]

I don't remember there being anything about bloody garments said before. Where is this coming from?

It’s here:

Retired Mammoth Police Department Sgt. Paul Dostie told Fox News he came into the convoluted case independently late last year and set about searching the contour. In December, he said, bloody underwear was found and their team collected piles of coyote scat and turned it over for testing. In terms of the latter, Dostie said there are only a couple of laboratories in the country capable of accurate testing, and thus he later clarified that those should be sent to those locations for accuracy.

He insisted they weren’t sent to the correct facility but to the California Department of Justice. But at the time, the sheriff said the underwear was not believed to be linked to Karlie.

She wanted to read the Bible and said she was scared: uncomfortable questions surround the case of missing California teen

 

[PixieStix]

It’s here:

Retired Mammoth Police Department Sgt. Paul Dostie told Fox News he came into the convoluted case independently late last year and set about searching the contour. In December, he said, bloody underwear was found and their team collected piles of coyote scat and turned it over for testing. In terms of the latter, Dostie said there are only a couple of laboratories in the country capable of accurate testing, and thus he later clarified that those should be sent to those locations for accuracy.

He insisted they weren’t sent to the correct facility but to the California Department of Justice. But at the time, the sheriff said the underwear was not believed to be linked to Karlie.

She wanted to read the Bible and said she was scared: uncomfortable questions surround the case of missing California teen

I do remember this now that I have had my memory jarred! They found the underwear out on the desert contour somewhere.

 

[bwt42]

I do remember this now that I have had my memory jarred! They found the underwear out on the desert contour somewhere.

It was never connected to Karlie

 

[PixieStix]

It was never connected to Karlie

Nope, I just had forgotten about that information. It says right in the article LE do not believe it is linked to Karlie.

 

[Roxxi3535]

It’s here:

Retired Mammoth Police Department Sgt. Paul Dostie told Fox News he came into the convoluted case independently late last year and set about searching the contour. In December, he said, bloody underwear was found and their team collected piles of coyote scat and turned it over for testing. In terms of the latter, Dostie said there are only a couple of laboratories in the country capable of accurate testing, and thus he later clarified that those should be sent to those locations for accuracy.

He insisted they weren’t sent to the correct facility but to the California Department of Justice. But at the time, the sheriff said the underwear was not believed to be linked to Karlie.

She wanted to read the Bible and said she was scared: uncomfortable questions surround the case of missing California teen

Thank you for posting this.
The shirt was also found in the desert by Lori Wileys mounted search and was live streamed. This is no secret. Been discussed on this forum in the past as well.

 

[PixieStix]

Thank you for posting this.
The shirt was also found in the desert by Lori Wileys mounted search and was live streamed. This is no secret. Been discussed on this forum in the past as well.

Which shirt could you please provide links along with your statements. This thread is going to get shut down if it continues on this path.

 

[insearchoflight]

I think it’s been made alarmingly clear that people personal to this case are bringing the drama over.

 

[PixieStix]

Once again, they are making a visual observation when saying that they do not believe they are Karlies. They never said it was determined not to be Karlies. But of course @bwt42 can start more rumors with the MSM right in front of you. Twice now.

Work with me here...
You are also making huge assumptions! It's a logical fallacy to suggest that because LE says they do not believe the underwear to be Karlie's that they only did a visual inspection. That is a ridiculous stretch. This is what the article states verbatim on this matter.
BBM:
"Retired Mammoth Police Department Sgt. Paul Dostie told Fox News he came into the convoluted case independently late last year and set about searching the contour. In December, he said, bloody underwear was found and their team collected piles of coyote scat and turned it over for testing. In terms of the latter, Dostie said there are only a couple of laboratories in the country capable of accurate testing, and thus he later clarified that those should be sent to those locations for accuracy.

He insisted they weren’t sent to the correct facility but to the California Department of Justice. But at the time, the sheriff said the underwear was not believed to be linked to Karlie.

Moreover, Fairley and Boone both have voiced their dismay about persons potentially interfering with an open investigation.

As for the test results so far, they remain under wraps. Braun told Fox News that they are not releasing any details of the investigation that would include anything about audio recordings, information gleaned from electronic devices, or testing of items until the case is closed."

LE absolutely sent the underwear away even if to the wrong facility. I have to believe the Department of Justice upon receiving the potential important evidence didn't just say oh this wasn't meant for us and tossed it in the trash. Apart from the coyote scat which might need special testing, it wouldn't be that difficult to pull some sort of DNA of underwear that had blood on it. It got tested somewhere, it wasn't just a visual inspection. LE has stated above they will not release any result on the findings of those tests until the case is closed.

I have no stake in the game. I don't know any of the family or people involved in this case. I am not sold one way or another on whether this was a crime of opportunity abduction, Karlie walked off into the desert and died, or someone much closer to her had something to do with whatever happened to her. There is things that don't add up for me. That being said I am not going to jump to conclusions based on internet gossip and make things fit my own confirmation bias.

 

[PixieStix]

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It's hard to read tone over the internet. I can tell you are sensitive about this case; we have all been there. I am not attacking you, that is not my style. However, you are stating things like facts and truth as if the rest of us are clueless and have some agenda. Maybe some do, but I do not. Please don't lump me in with whatever people you have a problem with here on WS. As I stated above, I have no agenda or loyalties to anyone in the family. I only am interested in verifiable facts, so when you are making these statements, I ask for links to sort through what is internet speculation and what has been put out by MSM. If you can only provide me information privately, that means it's not facts; it is your "opinion" based on internet speculation. I can go to other forums and pages if I want that information. Your posts are not the only posts I don't believe belong here on this thread, which is evident by the many posts I did not like.

 

[bwt42]

Let's try to be respectful of each other. I see the mods have deleted some posts & lets try not to get this thread shut down. Try not to get personal. Questioning other posters is not an attack.

 

[scriabina]

It’s here:

...In December, he said, bloody underwear was found and their team collected piles of coyote scat and turned it over for testing. In terms of the latter, Dostie said there are only a couple of laboratories in the country capable of accurate testing, and thus he later clarified that those should be sent to those locations for accuracy.

He insisted they weren’t sent to the correct facility but to the California Department of Justice. But at the time, the sheriff said the underwear was not believed to be linked to Karlie.

She wanted to read the Bible and said she was scared: uncomfortable questions surround the case of missing California teen

Pardon my ignorance, but what does bloody underwear have to do with coyote scat? And from the wording in the article, grammatically speaking, it sounds like the lab testing they were doing was on the coyote scat, not the underwear. Most likely the article is just poorly worded, but the lack of clarity makes it frustrating. Anyway, what were they testing for in the coyote scat? Since there were only a couple labs in the country capable of doing the kind of testing they needed, I assume the testing must have been very specialized, like searching for human DNA in coyote scat (I have never heard of that being done -- pure speculation)...?

 

[insearchoflight]

Pardon my ignorance, but what does bloody underwear have to do with coyote scat? And from the wording in the article, grammatically speaking, it sounds like the lab testing they were doing was on the coyote scat, not the underwear. Most likely the article is just poorly worded, but the lack of clarity makes it frustrating. Anyway, what were they testing for in the coyote scat? Since there were only a couple labs in the country capable of doing the kind of testing they needed, I assume the testing must have been very specialized, like searching for human DNA in coyote scat (I have never heard of that being done -- pure speculation)...?

That was my assumption, that they would test the coyote scat for human dna. That potentially the coyotes consumed human remains. Not 100% sure

 

[PixieStix]

That was my assumption, that they would test the coyote scat for human dna. That potentially the coyotes consumed human remains. Not 100% sure

My best guess also. I thought they must have found the underwear near or next to a large amount of the coyote scat. It would be incredibly random to find bloody underwear next to that.

 

[Topppps]

Mammoth and Bishop are known for hiking and camping, the underwear could be some woman that was hiking had a menstrual cycle and decided to litter a $2 pair of underwear. Also maybe the woman was not as skinny as Karlie, I would hardly waste tax dollar money testing a pair of XL underwear.

 

[PixieStix]

Mammoth and Bishop are known for hiking and camping, the underwear could be some woman that was hiking had a menstrual cycle and decided to little a $2 pair of underwear

I considered that possibility also. The whole thing could totally be nothing and unrelated to Karlie, as LE has said. It's just a weird find considering the situation.

 

[scriabina]

I considered that possibility also. The whole thing could totally be nothing and unrelated to Karlie, as LE has said. It's just a weird find considering the situation.

Yes, most likely menstrual blood, but gee, bloody underwear next to a pile of coyote scat is kind of disturbing. However, perhaps the coyotes were drawn to the scent of blood on the underwear, and while sniffing around for food they decided to defecate.

I wish there were better clues to find Karlie.

 

[Brooklyngirl84]

I believe he is a millionaire with a scripted talk show posing as a doctor that has been very lucky in life. He did more damage to Karlies case than anything.
Hes not a doctor or a member of LE. He provides entertainment for an audience of bored housewives who believe he is the real deal. To each his own.

Mic drop. I totally agree.

 

[claudianunes]

If the stepmother is responsible, then I have to believe that dad is also responsible. What I know is that Karlie is nowhere to be found. And I still think that she didn't walk out of that house. Something went terribly wrong that night, and now we have a 16-year-old girl missing.

 

[bwt42]

If the stepmother is responsible, then I have to believe that dad is also responsible. What I know is that Karlie is nowhere to be found. And I still think that she didn't walk out of that house. Something went terribly wrong that night, and now we have a 16-year-old girl missing.

That is not my first choice of what happened to Karlie but I'm open to the possibility. Now, present me with some evidence to support your theory. I don't know what happened to her and am willing to explore all possibilities.

 

[Topppps]

That is not my first choice of what happened to Karlie but I'm open to the possibility. Now, present me with some evidence to support your theory. I don't know what happened to her and am willing to explore all possibilities.

Hell even a motive would be nice. Girl is gone when she turns 18 anyway why would a step mother go through the trouble of murdering her. I looked through some of their family pics and they all look legit happy. What is your top theories as to what happened? I think she got kidnapped at highway 6, hitch hiking or forced into a vehicle.