CA CA - Karlie Lain Gusé, 16, Mono County, 13 Oct 2018 #2

[SuziQ]

BM claimed Karlie asked to be taken to the emergency room during the eight minute tape. That was not true. Dr Phil listened to the tape & said that was not true. There are those that think the SM is guilty of something. IMHO, there is no evidence that the BM had anything to do with Karlies disappearance. I'm willing to listen to evidence. All I've heard is she told a lie so therefore she has something to hide.

IIRC, Dr Phil didn't get to hear the entire tape, or wasn't able to determine if it was the entire tape. SM hung on tight for some reason.

 

[SuziQ]

BM claimed Karlie asked to be taken to the emergency room during the eight minute tape. That was not true. Dr Phil listened to the tape & said that was not true. There are those that think the SM is guilty of something. IMHO, there is no evidence that the BM had anything to do with Karlies disappearance. I'm willing to listen to evidence. All I've heard is she told a lie so therefore she has something to hide.

IIRC, Dr Phil didn't get to hear the entire tape, or wasn't able to determine if it was the entire tape. SM hung on tight for some reason.

 

[SuziQ]

From the one year missing presser, I think LE believes Karlie was last seen by the three people that saw her walking to the highway. I believe this scenario over the idea the SM did something because she told an inconsequential lie. jmo

IMO. An inconsequential lie would be from someone who wasn't there. Such as BM. SM WAS there and her lies do have consequences.

 

[SuziQ]

From the one year missing presser, I think LE believes Karlie was last seen by the three people that saw her walking to the highway. I believe this scenario over the idea the SM did something because she told an inconsequential lie. jmo

IMO. An inconsequential lie would be from someone who wasn't there. Such as BM. SM WAS there and her lies do have consequences.

 

[bwt42]

We are all entitled to our own opinions!

I’ve got two scenarios that I teeter between.

Both include Karlie walking away that morning (which accounts for the witnesses).

One she wandered very far into desert and perished of dehydration.

Two someone she knows went looking for her, found her along the road somewhere and then did something to her in anger.

I've considered your #2. One would have to avoid being seen picking her up & then concealing her body in a short time frame. Possible but a long shot in my opinion.

 

[bwt42]

IMO. An inconsequential lie would be from someone who wasn't there. Such as BM. SM WAS there and her lies do have consequences.

What consequence did her lie have? Also, you said lies so can you say what lies are you talking about?

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

IMO. An inconsequential lie would be from someone who wasn't there. Such as BM. SM WAS there and her lies do have consequences.

Plus, why would you tell lies at all if you had nothing to hide? I thought that the SM acted strange on Dr. Phil. I can't figure out why, though. Unfortunately, I don't think that this young girl is alive; however, I have no idea what happened to her.

 

[Seattle1]

Plus, why would you tell lies at all if you had nothing to hide? I thought that the SM acted strange on Dr. Phil. I can't figure out why, though. Unfortunately, I don't think that this young girl is alive; however, I have no idea what happened to her.

Karlie was a minor child that didn't even have a DL. She had no history of running away and was living under the care of her dad and SM-- at her request.

The evening before Karlie disappeared, she contacted SM to collect her from a party. When SM encountered Karlie in the street seemingly disoriented, she told SM that she smoked marijuana at the party. Reportedly, from their (i.e., dad and SM) first contact with Karlie Friday evening until the morning she disappeared, Karlie exhibited signs that were not typical of smoking garden variety marijuana.

Although Karlie's behavior was so unusual that SM slept in Karlie's bed with her, the adults charged with her care sought no medical intervention for her because "it was just marijuana."

In other words, they had no reason not to believe Karlie only smoked some weed because she also wasn't known to lie.

So why did the adult lie?

I think Karlie may have unknowingly been under the influence of something more than marijuana.

Sadly, I also share your conclusion.

 

[SuziQ]

What consequence did her lie have? Also, you said lies so can you say what lies are you talking about?

Well the consequence of lying is that it is hard for people to believe anything you say. And wonder why you lied to begin with.

 

[Seattle1]

Karlie was a minor child that didn't even have a DL. She had no history of running away and was living under the care of her dad and SM-- at her request.

The evening before Karlie disappeared, she contacted SM to collect her from a party. When SM encountered Karlie in the street seemingly disoriented, she told SM that she smoked marijuana at the party. Reportedly, from their (i.e., dad and SM) first contact with Karlie Friday evening until the morning she disappeared, Karlie exhibited signs that were not typical of smoking garden variety marijuana.

Although Karlie's behavior was so unusual that SM slept in Karlie's bed with her, the adults charged with her care sought no medical intervention for her because "it was just marijuana."

In other words, they had no reason not to believe Karlie only smoked some weed because she also wasn't known to lie.

So why did the adult lie?

I think Karlie may have unknowingly been under the influence of something more than marijuana.

Sadly, I also share your conclusion.

Should add that KG and SM arrived home before 8 pm. The party KG attended was held right after school. (too late to edit my original post)..

 

[Seajay]

What reason does anyone lie? To get out of consequences for something they did, to hide something they did, not sure what the questioner is looking for so lying to get questioning over. It’s all fear based.
In the case of SM lying, it seems she’s hiding something. Real or imagined but when a child is in your charge and disappears, lots is going to get thrown your way. IMO

 

[Topppps]

I've considered your #2. One would have to avoid being seen picking her up & then concealing her body in a short time frame. Possible but a long shot in my opinion.

It would be easy not to get caught kidnapping her, that road is in the middle of nowhere. Aniah Blanchard for example got kidnapped out of a busy gas station, someone saw but didnt call police. I wouldn't be surprised if Karlie hitch hiked even. The location she went missing is a bad one, not much traffic, no houses, no stores and no cameras.


My #1 scenario is she got kidnapped raped and murdered. Body dumped somewhere and Good luck finding it on that area with no mans everywhere.

 

[Topppps]

What reason does anyone lie? To get out of consequences for something they did, to hide something they did, not sure what the questioner is looking for so lying to get questioning over. It’s all fear based.
In the case of SM lying, it seems she’s hiding something. Real or imagined but when a child is in your charge and disappears, lots is going to get thrown your way. IMO

What reason would she have to kill Karlie? She could be hiding the fact that she didn't stay with Karlie and feels guilt that she let her get away, misstatements about where SM slept and what clothes Karlie was wearing sound like minor misstatements to me. In the Aniah Blanchard case people were obsessed with her friend Summer's misstatement that Aniah met a first date named Eric (which turned out to be a big misstatement hurt the investigation) turned out it was simply a guy responsible that wanted to kidnap a pretty girl, lot of people were just fixated on Summer and possibly Aniah's parents kinda saying they knew more than they said ignoring the fact that a pretty girl went missing.


I think in this case we shouldn't be overlooking the fact that Karlie is an extremely attractive girl, and I don't think it's a mere coincidence that she's an extremely attractive girl and went missing. I think someone abducted her at the intersection and I feel bad for her parents that they've had to go through all this and be given all these likely false accusations.

 

[claudianunes]

What reason would she have to kill Karlie? She could be hiding the fact that she didn't stay with Karlie and feels guilt that she let her get away, misstatements about where SM slept and what clothes Karlie was wearing sound like minor misstatements to me. In the Aniah Blanchard case people were obsessed with her friend Summer's misstatement that Aniah met a first date named Eric (which turned out to be a big misstatement hurt the investigation) turned out it was simply a guy responsible that wanted to kidnap a pretty girl, lot of people were just fixated on Summer and possibly Aniah's parents kinda saying they knew more than they said ignoring the fact that a pretty girl went missing.


I think in this case we shouldn't be overlooking the fact that Karlie is an extremely attractive girl, and I don't think it's a mere coincidence that she's an extremely attractive girl and went missing. I think someone abducted her at the intersection and I feel bad for her parents that they've had to go through all this and be given all these likely false accusations.

What reason did she have to kill Karlie? I mean, what reasons do mothers and fathers have to kill their own children? What reasons do stepmothers and stepfathers have to kill their stepchildren? In my opinion, there are no reasons at all. It could be because a fight escalated, it could be because she hit her too hard, it could be because she shoved her down the stairs, who knows? What I don't understand is the need to lie about certain things, if you don't know the answer just say you don't know, you don't go out of your way to lie to LE and then, to the media. A child is missing, Jesus Christ, why lie if you have nothing to hide? Exactly.

 

[bwt42]

What reason did she have to kill Karlie? I mean, what reasons do mothers and fathers have to kill their own children? What reasons do stepmothers and stepfathers have to kill their stepchildren? In my opinion, there are no reasons at all. It could be because a fight escalated, it could be because she hit her too hard, it could be because she shoved her down the stairs, who knows? What I don't understand is the need to lie about certain things, if you don't know the answer just say you don't know, you don't go out of your way to lie to LE and then, to the media. A child is missing, Jesus Christ, why lie if you have nothing to hide? Exactly.

People lie for reasons other than trying to hide something. I think BM lied about what Karlie said on the tape to make the SM look bad. jmo

 

[claudianunes]

People lie for reasons other than trying to hide something. I think BM lied about what Karlie said on the tape to make the SM look bad. jmo

I don't see how saying that Karlie's biological mother lied helps? We don't know if she lied, though. Did we listen to that "tape"? I didn't, so I don't know. But we do know that Karlie's stepmother lied, because she said it herself. I'm sorry but lying when a teenage girl is missing does not help anyone, certainly did not help Karlie. I'm pretty sure that the number one rule when a kid goes missing is to be 100% honest with LE so they can do their job. That's all I'm saying.

 

[bwt42]

I don't see how saying that Karlie's biological mother lied helps? We don't know if she lied, though. Did we listen to that "tape"? I didn't, so I don't know. But we do know that Karlie's stepmother lied, because she said it herself. I'm sorry but lying when a teenage girl is missing does not help anyone, certainly did not help Karlie. I'm pretty sure that the number one rule when a kid goes missing is to be 100% honest with LE so they can do their job. That's all I'm saying.

I think pointing out that Karlies BM lied does help. It shows that people lie for other reasons than they have something to hide. If people can accept that, than maybe they will quit dwelling on the SM must be guilty because she lied.

 

[Mauig’ma]

People lie for reasons other than trying to hide something. I think BM lied about what Karlie said on the tape to make the SM look bad. jmo

I agree wholeheartedly

 

[insearchoflight]

The problem with lying about details during a missing person investigation is that it derails the focus of the investigation.

I hope LE is able to stay more focused on Karlie than we are on this thread

 

[Topppps]

Apparently Karlie called a suicide hotline the month before she went missing. Devin Bond feel to this one?

Riddle of the Roads: In Search of Karlie Guse, Part II