CA CA - Karlie Lain Gusé, 16, Mono County, 13 Oct 2018 #2

[Coffiecat]

The eyewitness made his disclaimer of time passed, and Big windows or not, there's steam, angle, age. My Cousin Vinny tape measure scene...

 

[missingm]

New video of Zach today:

 

[missingm]

DBM / DUP POST

 

[JohnPanama]

If you take the SM and father at their word then you're left with four possible scenarios:

1) She ran away intentionally. (So she just impulsively decides to bail on the tail end of a bad trip on drugs? Highly unlikely.)

2) She stumbled off into the desert and died. (No. They would've found her.)

3) She was abducted by a passerby on highway 6. (She was allegedly paranoid. Who gets into a car with a stranger when they're on a bad trip? Who even goes near a car when they're on a bad trip? More possible than the first two but still, highly unlikely)

4) She was stalked/forcibly abducted by a local who had observed her walking to her bus stop on more than one occasion. Maybe a neighbor? Maybe a teacher? Maybe even one who claimed to have seen her? This one seems the most likely to me if you're going to believe the parents.

I'm still at odds with what happened to KG between the time she was picked up at the party by her SM (around 9pm) and 7am the following morning when the SM said she was gone. I've had bad trips. The very last thing you want to do is leave the house. We need to find this girl. We need to bring her home.

 

[wary]

If you take the SM and father at their word then you're left with four possible scenarios:

1) She ran away intentionally. (So she just impulsively decides to bail on the tail end of a bad trip on drugs? Highly unlikely.)

2) She stumbled off into the desert and died. (No. They would've found her.)

3) She was abducted by a passerby on highway 6. (She was allegedly paranoid. Who gets into a car with a stranger when they're on a bad trip? Who even goes near a car when they're on a bad trip? More possible than the first two but still, highly unlikely)

4) She was stalked/forcibly abducted by a local who had observed her walking to her bus stop on more than one occasion. Maybe a neighbor? Maybe a teacher? Maybe even one who claimed to have seen her? This one seems the most likely to me if you're going to believe the parents.

I'm still at odds with what happened to KG between the time she was picked up at the party by her SM (around 9pm) and 7am the following morning when the SM said she was gone. I've had bad trips. The very last thing you want to do is leave the house. We need to find this girl. We need to bring her home.

Just one quibble about scenario 2. They might well not have found her—bodies are amazingly hard to find, sometimes.

 

[StarEyes]

If you take the SM and father at their word then you're left with four possible scenarios:

1) She ran away intentionally. (So she just impulsively decides to bail on the tail end of a bad trip on drugs? Highly unlikely.)

2) She stumbled off into the desert and died. (No. They would've found her.)

3) She was abducted by a passerby on highway 6. (She was allegedly paranoid. Who gets into a car with a stranger when they're on a bad trip? Who even goes near a car when they're on a bad trip? More possible than the first two but still, highly unlikely)

4) She was stalked/forcibly abducted by a local who had observed her walking to her bus stop on more than one occasion. Maybe a neighbor? Maybe a teacher? Maybe even one who claimed to have seen her? This one seems the most likely to me if you're going to believe the parents.

I'm still at odds with what happened to KG between the time she was picked up at the party by her SM (around 9pm) and 7am the following morning when the SM said she was gone. I've had bad trips. The very last thing you want to do is leave the house. We need to find this girl. We need to bring her home.

Every time I think the 4th option is implausible, I think of Jayme Closs. Bless. None of us could’ve predicted any of that. Had she not escaped, I’d go so far as to say we’d still be scratching our heads, possibly forever. (I think about her so often...especially when I need courage.) Her abductor just happened to see her get on the bus one time, and he became obsessed. Completely random stranger. That’s the only reason I never shut the door on that option now. Even if there’s the slightest chance. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

If you take the SM and father at their word then you're left with four possible scenarios:

1) She ran away intentionally. (So she just impulsively decides to bail on the tail end of a bad trip on drugs? Highly unlikely.)

2) She stumbled off into the desert and died. (No. They would've found her.)

3) She was abducted by a passerby on highway 6. (She was allegedly paranoid. Who gets into a car with a stranger when they're on a bad trip? Who even goes near a car when they're on a bad trip? More possible than the first two but still, highly unlikely)

4) She was stalked/forcibly abducted by a local who had observed her walking to her bus stop on more than one occasion. Maybe a neighbor? Maybe a teacher? Maybe even one who claimed to have seen her? This one seems the most likely to me if you're going to believe the parents.

I'm still at odds with what happened to KG between the time she was picked up at the party by her SM (around 9pm) and 7am the following morning when the SM said she was gone. I've had bad trips. The very last thing you want to do is leave the house. We need to find this girl. We need to bring her home.

Welcome to WS @ JohnPanama. Yes, KG needs to be located and bring closure to her community, family, and friends.

I'm not able to give much weight to the abduction theory as KG and her family reportedly moved to the house only a few weeks before she disappeared. We know that the witnesses had never met KG before - she was completely unknown to them. Likewise, they can not say for certain they actually saw KG on the early morning of Oct 13.

When KG was collected from the party by SM, she was exhibiting signs inconsistent with smoking weed and her odd symptoms progressed into the night. I think KG would still be with us if she received medical attention on Oct 13, 2018. MOO

 

[missingm]

New video of Melissa:

 

[Knox]

Just curious, where is the video from Karlie's Mom?

 

[kelsie]

this breaks my heart. i have tears. no kid should have to worry this way.

 

[kelsie]

 

[kelsie]

Watching these videos makes me feel very much like despite all the misinformation and confusion regarding Melissa's initial statements she did not harm Karlie.

 

[kelsie]

DBM

 

[Coffiecat]

I never thought SM directly hurt KG, but have had the feeling all along the she knew more.

 

[Knox]

I never thought SM directly hurt KG, but have had the feeling all along the she knew more.

Same, I felt it could be a scenario in which Karlie died due to whatever she ingested at the party. I don't understand why she wasn't taken to the ER that night, it defies my parental logic.

 

[missingm]

this breaks my heart. i have tears. no kid should have to worry this way.

Amazingly strong and vulnerable at the same time.

 

[insearchoflight]

this breaks my heart. i have tears. no kid should have to worry this way.

Oh my gosh this is absolutely completely heartbreaking.

I have wondered for a LONG time about what her siblings had to say because they were there in the house at the time of her disappearance. Wow

no words

 

[kaykay543]

this breaks my heart. i have tears. no kid should have to worry this way.

It is telling that the only one who talks about what Karlie could be going through is her brother. My heart breaks for him. I hope hes getting counseling.

 

[nyvictoria]

It is telling that the only one who talks about what Karlie could be going through is her brother. My heart breaks for him. I hope hes getting counseling.

Amen sister!

 

[overworkedcollegestudent]

It is telling that the only one who talks about what Karlie could be going through is her brother. My heart breaks for him. I hope hes getting counseling.

it makes me believe that he is one of the only ones in that household who doesn't know what happened to Karlie...