CA CA - Kern Co, WhtFem, 57-67, Red/grey Hair, Dentures, Lavendar/Wht Dress, 4 Jan 1961

[Gardener1850]

[h=1]Unidentified Female[/h]

Date of Discovery: January 4, 1961 Location of Discovery: Kern County, California Estimated Date of Death: 15 months prior State of Remains: Unknown Cause of Death: Unknown [h=5]Physical Description[/h] ** Listed information is approximate Estimated Age: 57-67 years old Race: White Gender: Female Height: 5'0" to 5'5" Weight: Unknown Hair Color: Red, graying. Eye Color: Unknown Distinguishing Marks/Features: Fractures to ribs 9, 10, and 11. Possibly had back problems. Dentals: Not available. Full dentures. Fingerprints: Unknown DNA: Unknown [h=5]Clothing & Personal Items[/h] Clothing: Lavendar and white dress, white slip, beige underwear, and blue wedgies shoes (size 5). Jewelry: Unknown Additional Personal Items: Unknown [h=5]Case History[/h] The victim's skeletal remains were located in the Mohave Desert. [h=5]Investigating Agency(s)[/h] If you have any information about this case please contact; Agency Name: Kern County Sheriff's Office Agency Contact Person: N/A Agency Phone Number: 661-868-5545 Agency Case Number: M15826 NCIC Case Number: N/A NamUs Case Number: Not listed Former Hot Case Number: 415 Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1061ufca.html

I looked but did not see a thread for this case. She has gone 57 years today without ID and she is not in NaMus.
May 2018 be the year she is finally identified.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Unidentified Female

State of Remains: Unknown

I wonder what Kern County routinely did with UID remains back then. If she was buried and they can locate her remains they really should exhume her for a complete battery of tests, including isotope analysis on her bone.

 

[Gardener1850]

Not many missing cases from before 1961. With how long ago these remains were found, I wonder if they could be "off" on some things like age estimate, height, times of death, etc.

Betty Roberts, 29, went missing in Nov 1959. She had dentures. But she had brown hair, not red, and is list a couple inches taller than the UID height estimate.
Only black and white photos of her available so no way to check if her brown hair might have looked reddish.

Betty's thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?88104-MD-Betty-Roberts-29-Baltimore-3-Nov-1959
NaMus: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7259/118/
DoeNetwork: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1364dfmd.html

Not a strong match, but maybe she should be ruled out to get this UID case a new look by LE. Would anyone like to submit Betty?
(I'm just suggesting her here, I know she's not a strong possible, but all I have found so far)

 

[4SAM]

So sad. This could be someone's mother

 

[MelmothTheLost]

But she had brown hair, not red,

I've read recently that there are red tints underlying most brown hair, so is it possible that the brown could have leached out due to environmental conditions (UV?) leaving the red behind?

 

[Gardener1850]

I've read recently that there are red tints underlying most brown hair, so is it possible that the brown could have leached out due to environmental conditions (UV?) leaving the red behind?

Hmm... That is very interesting!

 

[4SAM]

With the fractures to the ribs, could it have been from being struck by a vehicle?

 

[amoreau25]

[h=1]Unidentified Female[/h]

Date of Discovery: January 4, 1961 Location of Discovery: Kern County, California Estimated Date of Death: 15 months prior State of Remains: Unknown Cause of Death: Unknown [h=5]Physical Description[/h] ** Listed information is approximate Estimated Age: 57-67 years old Race: White Gender: Female Height: 5'0" to 5'5" Weight: Unknown Hair Color: Red, graying. Eye Color: Unknown Distinguishing Marks/Features: Fractures to ribs 9, 10, and 11. Possibly had back problems. Dentals: Not available. Full dentures. Fingerprints: Unknown DNA: Unknown [h=5]Clothing & Personal Items[/h] Clothing: Lavendar and white dress, white slip, beige underwear, and blue wedgies shoes (size 5). Jewelry: Unknown Additional Personal Items: Unknown [h=5]Case History[/h] The victim's skeletal remains were located in the Mohave Desert. [h=5]Investigating Agency(s)[/h] If you have any information about this case please contact; Agency Name: Kern County Sheriff's Office Agency Contact Person: N/A Agency Phone Number: 661-868-5545 Agency Case Number: M15826 NCIC Case Number: N/A NamUs Case Number: Not listed Former Hot Case Number: 415 Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1061ufca.html

I looked but did not see a thread for this case. She has gone 57 years today without ID and she is not in NaMus.
May 2018 be the year she is finally identified.

I currently live in Kern county, the open desert around here is pretty vast, there’s lots of wide untouched areas without homes or towns....

I am extremely curious to know where in Mojave desert the body was located... was it near any of the highways? Any way to find out more exact details?

In 1961 many of the housing developments in the incorporated areas did not exist.




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[iulia]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

#UP56924
Date Body Found January 4, 1961
ME/C Case Number 641

Sex Female
Race/Ethnicity White/Caucasian
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 60
Estimated Age Range 35-55
Height 5' 0"-5' 5"(60-65 inches) , Estimated
Weight Cannot Estimate

Location Desert Foothills, California
County Kern County

Circumstances of Recovery Female decedent was found in the Mojave Desert, hair is gray/red/blonde-ish. Nails appeared to be neatly manicured.

Inventory of Remains One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton

Hair Color Gray or Partially Gray
Head Hair Description Hair was described as red/gray/blonde-ish.

Other distinctive physical characteristic
Bony growths on all vertebrae and some phalanges.

Clothing
Decedent was wearing a white cotton dress with a lavender floral print, beige cotton sweater, white nylon slip, possibly wearing snuggie underwear, size 5 blue wedge shoes.

 

[DS2021]

Bump

 

[heartanium]

Jan 4, 1961, The Progress Bulletin, pg 9

"The skeleton of a woman, believed to have died approximately nine months ago, was found Monday on the isolated Los Angeles Aqueduct Road - 14 miles north of Mojave."

"The head was separate from the torso."

"One wedge shoe, a blue and white print dress, a silk slip and a sweater were nearby. The lower dentures were intact."

 

[heartanium]

I did some digging in the newspapers and did find a missing woman named Betty Jane Franklin. She went missing in September of 1960, not sure if she was ever found.

Sept 19, 1960, Daily News Post, pg 8

She has red hair, is around the right height and age. No mention of dentures. PMI would be off for her though.

 

[heartanium]

Jan 3, 1961, The Fresno Bee, pg 25

Looks like the actual date this skeleton was discovered was Jan 2, 1961

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Looks like she was found alive.

 

[heartanium]

View attachment 448085Looks like she was found alive.

Great to know! Glad she was eventually found safe.

 

[espirtu pampa]

The woman whose skeleton was found couldn't be alive.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Some possible matches:

Iva Mildred Foss
1794DFNY - Iva Mildred Foss

Maud Robinson Crawford
746DFAR - Maud Robinson Crawford
Nancy Anderson

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov