Terribly sad. It appears Kiely did just drive straight into the lake.We have video of what appears to be a car going into Lake Prosser around 12:30am on 8/6. Yes, going into the lake. Then the lights disappear.
It appears to stop twice. Once on land, a fair ways from the water, and another time after it goes into the water.just want to point out that the car stops for seconds, not minutes. Her car sank in less time than any of the videos we watched about sinking cars on here. So terrible.
I don't have any belief that KR was alive after her car went into the water that night.rsbm
Yes, this is one of several theories I have about what happened to KR. It would explain why LE and many searchers in the area had not found KR's car. And yes, this theory entails either KR being alive for one or more days after the party (e.g. kidnapped and held captive) or having died the night of the party, and then later dumped to stage an accident. IMO.
No, LE was not watching the area where the party was held. That was said by LE during an early presser (or community meeting). The official who said that went on to explain allowing recreational activity to go on would provide more eyes.
Isn’t it extremely hard to escape from a sinking car? I just can’t imagine it would be someone else driving her car into the lake and taking the risk of hopefully being able to escape unscathed. And then what…swimming to shore? Having a ride pick them up, who has managed to stay quiet?rsbm
Thanks for your analysis, @JosephK. I would agree. I also caution us from jumping to the conclusion that this is KR driving her car into Lake Prosser. LE hopefully has the high resolution version of this archive that we do not, per @Curiosa20's comments above. What we do not know and cannot know even now, is whether KR was alone, driving or even alive.
I am not trying to sensationalize this. I am just encouraging us to stick to the facts - we have video of what appears to be KR's car going into Lake Prosser around 12:30am on 8/6. LE's / CHP's investigation will be determining if there was any foul play.
ET: clarify 2nd paragraph
Of course LE has and had the video from very early on and surely her parents were told or knew about the cameras, that camera operation is a big deal up there.That's pretty darn convincing evidence that Kiely left the party, probably drunk and/or high and just missed a turn, ending up in Prosser. Watching the car lights grow dim then disappear is compelling. OMG, if that was Kiely and her car then it's incredibly eerie to actually see the accident.
I wonder if LE has the video
BBMThat's pretty darn convincing evidence that Kiely left the party, probably drunk and/or high and just missed a turn, ending up in Prosser. Watching the car lights grow dim then disappear is compelling. OMG, if that was Kiely and her car then it's incredibly eerie to actually see the accident.
I wonder if LE has the video.
yes Curiosa, I totally agree that her parents saw the cam video right away. Hence her mothers acceptance and the hugging of all of her friends at her memorial service, which I may add, she was criticized for, on SM. IMO, Lindsey knew what happened but did not feel the need to share that with the world, and that is totally understandable. She focused on saying goodbye and sharing what a wonderful, multi talented, artistic, loving ,giving.Of course LE has and had the video from very early on and surely her parents were told or knew about the cameras, that camera operation is a big deal up there.
But the volunteer swimmers, then the little LE boat with fish sonar, then the LE associated local volunteer divers and Alameda county- trained in a swimming pool- found nothing.So maybe that’s why everything went so silent so soon and the search effort was cut back so early.
Confounding evidence to say the least.
And as good a resolution as the camera has I doubt it read the license plate but her family must have been sick wondering what the heck happened when they didn‘t find the car after watching one roll into the water, then remaining barely offshore until AWP arrived.
LE has lots to explain. MOO
@RedHaus- do you also have the car lights distance off the ground measurements?just want to point out that the car stops for seconds, not minutes. Her car sank in less time than any of the videos we watched about sinking cars on here. So terrible.
I'm with JosephK on this. The video raises more questions than answers. It certainly fits with the original timeline of the last ping at 12:33 am. It does not fit with certain versions of events that were relayed to the media.Yes, the key part to watch starts ~12:29 (00:29). The camera is at least 2 miles away, so it's just lights at night. This is what I think I saw:
1. Mass exodus of cars from Prosser starts ~12:29, and over the next several minutes a lot of cars are driving on Highway 89. It doesn't seem like nearly enough for 200-300+ people IMO. Why did just about everybody leave suddenly in such a short time span? Seems pretty early for the party of the century to call it quits, given that this was the "senior farewell" party and older, scary people drove from hours away to attend it, and most people seemed to arrive rather late in the evening (9-10:30).
2. Car slowly drives parallel to beach/water ~12:32-12:33, it turns right (one can see the reflection of headlights across that part of lake) to face water, lights dim and then disappear completely ~12:34-12:35. The car is going very slowly and/or stopped while in the area near where KR's car was eventually discovered. The apparent lack of speed and even stopping would seem to give someone plenty of time to see and react to upcoming water, especially as the car's headlights can be seen hitting the land across the water at times. The last ping of KR's phone was at 12:33 and there was a car roughly in the same location as that ping at roughly the same time whose headlights dimmed and then disappeared.
Obviously I can't answer that question but if she was drunk and/or high why would we expect her to act rationally? It was late, it was dark and she had no business trying to drive if she was under the influence. She even stopped for a few seconds, possibly to figure out what direction to go. Then she unfortunately chose the wrong direction.BBM
Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?
Just a thought.
MOO
Maybe intentionally keeping back from the other cars, i.e. a sense of self-preservation because of the state she knew she was in. Or she just happened to be not following anyone closely. And then she went the wrong way at a fork in the road. Perhaps a case of the holes in the Swiss cheese lining up.BBM
Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?
Just a thought.
MOO
Exactly.If this video is authentic, there’s some people who have some explaining to do including LE. Sami said she received a call from KR at 12:36, but if the video’s time is correct she would have been underwater already. Elsa, Mags also told media that she was seen after 12:33. Where’s the 400 people? We know that’s false now. If LE had this footage, then why did they scale back the search? I’m so confused. Still looks sus to me.
Shamefully I’d like to share my own experience. When I was 19, just a couple years older than Kiely, I left a party quite intoxicated. I drove my route home which I’d driven what felt like a million times. I could drive that route in my sleep, it felt like! But with intoxication, well, not so much. I took my “usual” route home…..but made one wrong turn. I ended up crossing a bridge onto an island, where I drove in circles for a very long time, until I was pulled over and charged with a DUI. I was extremely confused the next day about how I ended up on an island, when I was so familiar with the area.BBM
Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?
Just a thought.
MOO