Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #10

  • #181
I hope her family learns about this by someone in an official, investigative capacity, and not social media….
 
  • #182
We have video of what appears to be a car going into Lake Prosser around 12:30am on 8/6. Yes, going into the lake. Then the lights disappear.
 
  • #183
We have video of what appears to be a car going into Lake Prosser around 12:30am on 8/6. Yes, going into the lake. Then the lights disappear.
Terribly sad. It appears Kiely did just drive straight into the lake.
Whether she was drink and/or high, took a wrong turning in the dark or did it deliberately, but it looks like foul play didn't occur.

MOO.
 
  • #184
  • #185
just want to point out that the car stops for seconds, not minutes. Her car sank in less time than any of the videos we watched about sinking cars on here. So terrible.
It appears to stop twice. Once on land, a fair ways from the water, and another time after it goes into the water.

One correction I would make to what I think I saw: The headlights on the far shore appear to be from a different vehicle, which was also traveling to the right (east), but through Prosser Family Campground to the north. That vehicle appears to turn around in PFC and then head the opposite direction (west).
 
  • #186
rsbm
Yes, this is one of several theories I have about what happened to KR. It would explain why LE and many searchers in the area had not found KR's car. And yes, this theory entails either KR being alive for one or more days after the party (e.g. kidnapped and held captive) or having died the night of the party, and then later dumped to stage an accident. IMO.

No, LE was not watching the area where the party was held. That was said by LE during an early presser (or community meeting). The official who said that went on to explain allowing recreational activity to go on would provide more eyes.
I don't have any belief that KR was alive after her car went into the water that night.

Once her car was underwater, it could have easily drifted to other locations.

I'll wait for LE to determine whether her death is suspicious or not.

JMO
 
  • #187
Since no one else has asked it yet i will.

is there ANY chance at all somebody could have edited over the video footage and layered the headlights in?

MOO
Speculation
 
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  • #188
just want to point out, Grays video has been blown up to show that yes, it is KR car, hard to imagine in this situation another car that looked just like hers went into the lake, when her car was found there.
Any video or photo of what has been incorrectly identified as her car anywhere else after it is seen sinking into the lake is false..

She sank very quickly, and the heavy engine and slight undercurrent flipped it immediately over and it landed on the edge of a shallow ledge, or else the car would have been 6O feet under if it hadnt flipped when it did.

LE will never tell us how the cam video leaked. They might have even done it themselves to shut everyone up until they release COD. But, wow, sure has not worked.
 
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  • #189
rsbm

Thanks for your analysis, @JosephK. I would agree. I also caution us from jumping to the conclusion that this is KR driving her car into Lake Prosser. LE hopefully has the high resolution version of this archive that we do not, per @Curiosa20's comments above. What we do not know and cannot know even now, is whether KR was alone, driving or even alive.

I am not trying to sensationalize this. I am just encouraging us to stick to the facts - we have video of what appears to be KR's car going into Lake Prosser around 12:30am on 8/6. LE's / CHP's investigation will be determining if there was any foul play.

ET: clarify 2nd paragraph
Isn’t it extremely hard to escape from a sinking car? I just can’t imagine it would be someone else driving her car into the lake and taking the risk of hopefully being able to escape unscathed. And then what…swimming to shore? Having a ride pick them up, who has managed to stay quiet?

IMO it’s hard to believe that this wasn’t just an accident. I cannot imagine a second party being in that vehicle, uninjured, and managing to stay quiet and under the radar.
 
  • #190
That's pretty darn convincing evidence that Kiely left the party, probably drunk and/or high and just missed a turn, ending up in Prosser. Watching the car lights grow dim then disappear is compelling. OMG, if that was Kiely and her car then it's incredibly eerie to actually see the accident.

I wonder if LE has the video
Of course LE has and had the video from very early on and surely her parents were told or knew about the cameras, that camera operation is a big deal up there.
But the volunteer swimmers, then the little LE boat with fish sonar, then the LE associated local volunteer divers and Alameda county- trained in a swimming pool- found nothing.So maybe that’s why everything went so silent so soon and the search effort was cut back so early.
Confounding evidence to say the least.
And as good a resolution as the camera has I doubt it read the license plate but her family must have been sick wondering what the heck happened when they didn‘t find the car after watching one roll into the water, then remaining barely offshore until AWP arrived.
LE has lots to explain. MOO
 
  • #191
That's pretty darn convincing evidence that Kiely left the party, probably drunk and/or high and just missed a turn, ending up in Prosser. Watching the car lights grow dim then disappear is compelling. OMG, if that was Kiely and her car then it's incredibly eerie to actually see the accident.

I wonder if LE has the video.
BBM

Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?

Just a thought.
MOO
 
  • #192
Of course LE has and had the video from very early on and surely her parents were told or knew about the cameras, that camera operation is a big deal up there.
But the volunteer swimmers, then the little LE boat with fish sonar, then the LE associated local volunteer divers and Alameda county- trained in a swimming pool- found nothing.So maybe that’s why everything went so silent so soon and the search effort was cut back so early.
Confounding evidence to say the least.
And as good a resolution as the camera has I doubt it read the license plate but her family must have been sick wondering what the heck happened when they didn‘t find the car after watching one roll into the water, then remaining barely offshore until AWP arrived.
LE has lots to explain. MOO
yes Curiosa, I totally agree that her parents saw the cam video right away. Hence her mothers acceptance and the hugging of all of her friends at her memorial service, which I may add, she was criticized for, on SM. IMO, Lindsey knew what happened but did not feel the need to share that with the world, and that is totally understandable. She focused on saying goodbye and sharing what a wonderful, multi talented, artistic, loving ,giving.
person her daughter was.
Again stressing that LE is under no obligation to satisfy our curiosity while informing her next of kin. MOO they showed Lindsey the footage right away and she has always known.
 
  • #193
just want to point out that the car stops for seconds, not minutes. Her car sank in less time than any of the videos we watched about sinking cars on here. So terrible.
@RedHaus- do you also have the car lights distance off the ground measurements?
I think a distinction should be made between being floated off, submerging then turtling and finally sinking.
 
  • #194
Yes, the key part to watch starts ~12:29 (00:29). The camera is at least 2 miles away, so it's just lights at night. This is what I think I saw:

1. Mass exodus of cars from Prosser starts ~12:29, and over the next several minutes a lot of cars are driving on Highway 89. It doesn't seem like nearly enough for 200-300+ people IMO. Why did just about everybody leave suddenly in such a short time span? Seems pretty early for the party of the century to call it quits, given that this was the "senior farewell" party and older, scary people drove from hours away to attend it, and most people seemed to arrive rather late in the evening (9-10:30).

2. Car slowly drives parallel to beach/water ~12:32-12:33, it turns right (one can see the reflection of headlights across that part of lake) to face water, lights dim and then disappear completely ~12:34-12:35. The car is going very slowly and/or stopped while in the area near where KR's car was eventually discovered. The apparent lack of speed and even stopping would seem to give someone plenty of time to see and react to upcoming water, especially as the car's headlights can be seen hitting the land across the water at times. The last ping of KR's phone was at 12:33 and there was a car roughly in the same location as that ping at roughly the same time whose headlights dimmed and then disappeared.
I'm with JosephK on this. The video raises more questions than answers. It certainly fits with the original timeline of the last ping at 12:33 am. It does not fit with certain versions of events that were relayed to the media.

As I said way back on the thread, after driving the road out there myself, I was very skeptical that she drove herself into the water. The reason I said that is that the roads are so unbelievably bad that you cannot drive fast out there. So it was implausible to me that she "accidentally" drove into the water. She would have seen the water at the speeds that one needs to drive on those incredibly rough "roads."

Now this video, if it's authentic, only confirms that. She was not driving fast. And this video also confirms what Joseph K is saying about the large exodus at the same time.

Now if something happened at the party, this is speculation. If Kiely died from an overdose, from a "fight," from something else at the party. And a bunch of kids knew that and were all scared of culpability due to many illegal activities occurring at this party. It is plausible to me that most of them "got out of dodge" and someone dumped the body and vehicle. For me personally, this video makes that more likely than her driving in by accident. That's just my opinion based on what is known.
 
  • #195
BBM

Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?

Just a thought.
MOO
Obviously I can't answer that question but if she was drunk and/or high why would we expect her to act rationally? It was late, it was dark and she had no business trying to drive if she was under the influence. She even stopped for a few seconds, possibly to figure out what direction to go. Then she unfortunately chose the wrong direction.

It's a shame there was no one at that party who recognized that Kiely was not in any shape to drive. If there was then yes, someone might have offered to lead her to the highway. Or suggested they give her a ride. Or get her to call her mom. Or call another friend. A hundred things that may have averted Kiely's death. But that night it didn't happen and an inexperienced and possibly altered teen driver made a fatal mistake.
 
  • #196
BBM

Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?

Just a thought.
MOO
Maybe intentionally keeping back from the other cars, i.e. a sense of self-preservation because of the state she knew she was in. Or she just happened to be not following anyone closely. And then she went the wrong way at a fork in the road. Perhaps a case of the holes in the Swiss cheese lining up.
MOO
RIP Kiely Mai Rodni. You didn't die in vain. Your thread here is why I went from lurking to joining.
 
  • #197
After watching the video, IMO it's pretty cut and dry, she was intoxicated (several of her friends attest to this), it was pitch black, she drove into the water, and her phone stops pinging.

It wouldn't make any sense for anyone else to be in the car with her. The car was driving too fast for someone to be pushing it and why would you keep the headlights on?

It's clear many people have never been intoxicated to that degree and tried to drive (and that's a good thing!), but all bets are off when you're under the influence. There is no rationality or logic at that point.

IMO
 
  • #198
If this video is authentic, there’s some people who have some explaining to do including LE. Sami said she received a call from KR at 12:36, but if the video’s time is correct she would have been underwater already. Elsa, Mags also told media that she was seen after 12:33. Where’s the 400 people? We know that’s false now. If LE had this footage, then why did they scale back the search? I’m so confused. Still looks sus to me.
 
  • #199
If this video is authentic, there’s some people who have some explaining to do including LE. Sami said she received a call from KR at 12:36, but if the video’s time is correct she would have been underwater already. Elsa, Mags also told media that she was seen after 12:33. Where’s the 400 people? We know that’s false now. If LE had this footage, then why did they scale back the search? I’m so confused. Still looks sus to me.
Exactly.
 
  • #200
BBM

Lets say that Kiely was drunk or maybe even high on something, why would she not follow other vehicles taillights?

Just a thought.
MOO
Shamefully I’d like to share my own experience. When I was 19, just a couple years older than Kiely, I left a party quite intoxicated. I drove my route home which I’d driven what felt like a million times. I could drive that route in my sleep, it felt like! But with intoxication, well, not so much. I took my “usual” route home…..but made one wrong turn. I ended up crossing a bridge onto an island, where I drove in circles for a very long time, until I was pulled over and charged with a DUI. I was extremely confused the next day about how I ended up on an island, when I was so familiar with the area.

My point is, I was extremely familiar with my route. I had lived in the area my entire life. But it was nighttime, I was intoxicated, and one wrong turn led me somewhere completely unexpected. I suspect the same happened with sweet KR, but with a much worse outcome.

JMO.
 

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