Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

[SpicyFruit]

I have also wondered if KR was really as wasted as we have been led to believe.

In the earliest reports, SS seems to emphasize how wasted KR supposedly was at the party. At the time, I felt like she was over emphasizing this point. Later quotes suggest that she knew that KR had good judgment and wouldn't drive drunk. I don't think SS was being untruthful, and likely realized her initial description was not appropriate for the situation.

I suspect that last phone call was mostly along the lines of "Do you need a ride or did you find one?"

Did SS mention what time she left the party? I wonder if KR was walking around trying to find her and then finally decided to call her instead which made her leave later than she had originally told her Mother.

 

[darring21]

While I still think that the accident is what happened and she is in the water I’m slowly going away from that idea.
One thing I wonder if when KR called SS about needing a ride she by logic wasn’t driving because if SS said yes it’s not like she was half way home and turn back to pick her up. Yet her phone went dead at the time of phone call. It would be strange to make an attempt to call someone with such a low battery that it dies during a call? I do that sometimes and I usually tell people I have 2% talk fast !

If it was an accident, though, her phone likely died due to damage or out of cell tower range and not due to the battery going dead.

 

[Beekarina]

Did SS mention what time she left the party? I wonder if KR was walking around trying to find her and then finally decided to call her instead which made her leave later than she had originally told her Mother.

I do not think SS gave a time when she left the party, but I believe in one part of the previously linked interview, she said she told Kiely she found another ride, they said goodbye, etc. and then at some later point--exactly how long is unclear, but the gist of it in the interview is "we, I, we were almost on 89" and SS was "in the passenger seat" when Kiely called her at 12:36 so whatever we might infer from that?

We know SS was at the party and with Kiely when Kiely texted her mom, at least that is what I took away from SS interview, since she mentioned how they went back to the car to charge phones and contact Kiely's mom. I believe this was at/around 11:30 pm.

We know Elsa saw Kiely at/around midnight, but her quote does not mention SS.

Confusing, to be sure.

 

[windrower]

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I’ll try to find the info, but there is also an older retired couple who do the same sort of work—helping families find suspected drowning victims.

The article I read quite some time ago said their experience makes them successful, that they’ve learned what a drowned body shape looks like (how the body moves, sinks, and settles depending on water factors), and they’ve also been successful finding cars and people in them. They were often times brought in after other searchers had given up, and found victims missed by previous searches.

Sorry I cannot remember their names, I think they were from Wyoming, but that may not be correct. Any of these people/organizations are extremely valuable to employ, IMO.

 

[Dotta]

I’ll try to find the info, but there is also an older retired couple who do the same sort of work—helping families find suspected drowning victims.

The article I read quite some time ago said their experience makes them successful, that they’ve learned what a drowned body shape looks like (how the body moves, sinks, and settles depending on water factors), and they’ve also been successful finding cars and people in them. They were often times brought in after other searchers had given up, and found victims missed by previous searches.

Sorry I cannot remember their names, I think they were from Wyoming, but that may not be correct. Any of these people/organizations are extremely valuable to employ, IMO.

Are they volunteers?
Like - enthusiasts?

Or is it their job?

 

[cvaldez1975]

This is the first I’ve heard of her talking at the beach. Where did this come from?

its speculation.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

I personally lean about 80% that she wrecked her car and it's simply not visible.

The issue I have with your scenario is why take her car? Hiding a car is difficult and has many additional risks

IMO, if this was an intentional coverup, the car would have to be taken and hidden if something bad happened inside it that could be traced back to someone (fingerprints, DNA, etc.).

 

[cvaldez1975]

Investigators arrest 9 adults in human trafficking sting operation at Lake Tahoe - South Tahoe Now

STATELINE, Nev. - Investigators from the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office, Reno Police Department’s Human Exploitation and Trafficking (HEAT) team along with the Federal Bureau of Investigations conducted a human trafficking operation in the Stateline, Nevada area July 7-8, 2022.

southtahoenow.com

thank you!

the arrested suspects seem to have been potential clients in a sting.

that was celebrity golf weekend, HT happens on a large scale with large events. glad they caught them.

still dont think KR fits the HT victims profile.

 

[Fika]

If it was an accident, though, her phone likely died due to damage or out of cell tower range and not due to the battery going dead.

Yes but I was thinking if she called SS asking if she needs a ride she most likely wasn’t driving ( into the water) at the time and her phone died very shortly around the phone call time.

 

[windrower]

Are they volunteers?
Like - enthusiasts?

Or is it their job?

Volunteers. Iirc, they asked to have just their expenses covered.

ETA: Found their info, they’re from Idaho:

Article on them:

Idaho couple, experts at finding drowning victims, offers resolution for Oregon families

Gene and Sandy Ralston are among the most sought-after experts in the recovery of drowning victims. They've completed 36 searches in Oregon and Washington.

www.oregonlive.com

They don’t charge a daily fee through Ralston Underwater Search and Recovery Services. They just ask for help to cover their expenses, primarily traveling in their camper and towing their boat from their home outside Boise, Idaho.

 

[JRW]

While she may, sadly, have been abducted, sexually assaulted and killed, the likelihood that Kiely was abducted for human trafficking is almost zero. While anything remains possible until we know what happened, Kiely fits absolutely no part of the profile of a likely victim of trafficking. Traffickers do not generally just snatch someone. They target at-risk people, build up a relationship and groom them over time, with false promises of a better life. They do not just grab someone at a party of 200-300 people, someone with friends there, someone that lives at home with loving parents, someone that will have an entire town looking for them, and draw national media coverage. JMO

Bringing this over from my post in the last thread...

Although there is no defining characteristic that all human trafficking victims share, traffickers around the world frequently prey on individuals who are poor, vulnerable, living in an unsafe or unstable situation, or are in search of a better life. Trafficking victims are deceived by false promises of love, a good job, or a stable life and are lured or forced into situations where they are made to work under deplorable conditions with little or no pay. In the United States, trafficking victims can be American or foreign citizens. Some of the most vulnerable populations for trafficking in the United States include American Indian/Alaska Native communities, lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-questioning individuals, individuals with disabilities, undocumented migrants, runaway and homeless youth, temporary guest-workers and low-income individuals.

But it is prevevelant in the location Traffick on I-80 - Moonshine Ink

 

[SteveP]

But it is prevevelant in the location Traffick on I-80 - Moonshine Ink

I don't doubt that at all. It is prevalent many places. So are at-risk youth. Clearly, none of us knows, but abduction for human trafficking is at the very bottom of my list for what may have happened to Kiely. She just does not check ANY of the boxes for likelihood. JMO

 

[cocomod]

I don't doubt that at all. It is prevalent many places. So are at-risk youth. Clearly, none of us knows, but abduction for human trafficking is at the very bottom of my list for what may have happened to Kiely. She just does not check ANY of the boxes for likelihood. JMO

True, but it is hard to know. What about the young lady that went to the bathroom at a NBA game recently and was taken? She didn't fit the bill either, but it happened.

Texas Teen Goes to Bathroom at NBA Game, Is Found 10 Days Later Sold for Sex in Oklahoma Hotel

On April 8, a 15-year-old girl went to an NBA game with her dad. It was 10 days before he saw his daughter again. The teenager from North Richland Hills, Texas, was at a Dallas Mavericks game with her father at the American Airlines Center in Dallas when she went to the bathroom right before...

www1.cbn.com

It is scary to admit that human trafficking is more prevalent than we want to believe. In Utah, they are investigating (right now) human trafficking that has been going on for decades!

 

[DFWNF]

yogurt is what we always used. ^shrug^

We toughed it out, or sometimes we bought them baked into cookies. I was reading an article about the baked shroom goodies could possibly contain "too much" and could be too strong, and imo no doubt eating eating too much is also a concern imo. Especially imo with inexperienced bakers, and inexperienced folks who consume them. Jmo

 

[SteveP]

True, but it is hard to know. What about the young lady that went to the bathroom at a NBA game recently and was taken? She didn't fit the bill either, but it happened.

Texas Teen Goes to Bathroom at NBA Game, Is Found 10 Days Later Sold for Sex in Oklahoma Hotel

On April 8, a 15-year-old girl went to an NBA game with her dad. It was 10 days before he saw his daughter again. The teenager from North Richland Hills, Texas, was at a Dallas Mavericks game with her father at the American Airlines Center in Dallas when she went to the bathroom right before...

www1.cbn.com

You are right, though she perhaps should be considered "at-risk", as it seems she was not taken forcefully, and has a history of leaving home without permission. That is why I said that clearly none of us knows. Yes, it could happen, but statistically, it is extremely unlikely that it did. JMO

Teen leaving game sparks trafficking awareness

Police found the 15-year-old girl in Oklahoma City 10 days after she left a Dallas arena during a Mavericks basketball game.

www.espn.com

 

[CharlestonGal]

I do not think SS gave a time when she left the party, but I believe in one part of the previously linked interview, she said she told Kiely she found another ride, they said goodbye, etc. and then at some later point--exactly how long is unclear, but the gist of it in the interview is "we, I, we were almost on 89" and SS was "in the passenger seat" when Kiely called her at 12:36 so whatever we might infer from that?

We know SS was at the party and with Kiely when Kiely texted her mom, at least that is what I took away from SS interview, since she mentioned how they went back to the car to charge phones and contact Kiely's mom. I believe this was at/around 11:30 pm.

We know Elsa saw Kiely at/around midnight, but her quote does not mention SS.

Confusing, to be sure.

"Sami Smith was at the party with Kiely and is one of the search coordinators.

“The last time I saw Kiely was around 12:25 in the morning of the party. I was leaving and I gave her a hug, telling her I loved her and goodbye, for her to get home safe, or be safe,” Sami told Inside Edition."

Mom of Missing California 16-Year-Old Kiely Rodni Pleads for Her Return: 'Please Give Me My Baby Back' | Fox Wilmington WSFX-TV

First Published: 2:54 PM PDT, August 9, 2022The search is on for a missing 16-year-old girl in Northern California amid fears she was abducted.Kiely Rodni was last seen at a party at a campground near Lake Tahoe last Friday night, along with as many as 300 other young people. The teen texted her ...

foxwilmington.com

 

[MimosaMornings]

True, but it is hard to know. What about the young lady that went to the bathroom at a NBA game recently and was taken? She didn't fit the bill either, but it happened.

Texas Teen Goes to Bathroom at NBA Game, Is Found 10 Days Later Sold for Sex in Oklahoma Hotel

On April 8, a 15-year-old girl went to an NBA game with her dad. It was 10 days before he saw his daughter again. The teenager from North Richland Hills, Texas, was at a Dallas Mavericks game with her father at the American Airlines Center in Dallas when she went to the bathroom right before...

www1.cbn.com

It is scary to admit that human trafficking is more prevalent than we want to believe. In Utah, they are investigating (right now) human trafficking that has been going on for decades!

Teen leaving game sparks trafficking awareness

Police found the 15-year-old girl in Oklahoma City 10 days after she left a Dallas arena during a Mavericks basketball game.

www.espn.com

“Zeke Fortenberry, the family's lawyer who has seen the surveillance video, said the girl did not appear to leave by force. Kyle and Brooke Morris said their daughter has a history of leaving home without their permission. In those instances, Kyle Morris said, she had left with people she knew, even leaving a note in at least one instance.”

To leave with a random guy at the bathrooms at a ball game is crazy scary.

 

[Angelcat13]

Does anyone have a source of LE stating some parents were advising their kids who were at the party not to speak with LE? If that exists and is not just hearsay, I would like to add that to the list of LE / MSM verified facts I am trying to keep.

Then... I also might let my mind start to analyze further why that could be? What criminal or embarrassing activity could have occurred that night to warrant this (other than the obvious)?

There were some previous comments that some parents may not want their kids to speak with LE because they may be afraid that some things could come out that could affect their standing in sports, academics, etc or with college acceptance, scholarships, etc. But I also wonder if some parents have a history of providing alcohol and/or a place to party and they are afraid this could come out if their kids talk to LE. If parents provided alcohol for this particular party, they could be afraid of being charged with a variety of offenses. But even if they didn't provide alcohol for this party, there could still be repercussions if they have done so in the past - whether legal, employment or even just their "standing" in the community.

 

[Beekarina]

"Sami Smith was at the party with Kiely and is one of the search coordinators.

“The last time I saw Kiely was around 12:25 in the morning of the party. I was leaving and I gave her a hug, telling her I loved her and goodbye, for her to get home safe, or be safe,” Sami told Inside Edition."

Mom of Missing California 16-Year-Old Kiely Rodni Pleads for Her Return: 'Please Give Me My Baby Back' | Fox Wilmington WSFX-TV

First Published: 2:54 PM PDT, August 9, 2022The search is on for a missing 16-year-old girl in Northern California amid fears she was abducted.Kiely Rodni was last seen at a party at a campground near Lake Tahoe last Friday night, along with as many as 300 other young people. The teen texted her ...

foxwilmington.com

Thank you!

@RedHaus Can this be added to the timeline?

 

[pandamonium]

Dog the Bounty Hunter claims he’s been sent slew of tips about Kiely Rodni

Last year, the reality TV star launched his own search for Brian Laundrie and documented the saga on social media

www.independent.co.uk