Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

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  • #821
Suppose, for civil discourse sake ~ Kiely left voluntarily, for reasons known only to her, but never ever thought her disappearance would blow up like this with her name, face and car now blasted all over the country. Now what does she do? How does she save face with her friends and peers? How does she make this up to her mama and beg for forgiveness? Don’t ya think a child, only 16, deserves compassion and understanding?
This is actually my greatest hope and wish.

Kiely, if you have run away and are out there somewhere, it will be okay. Your family loves you. The authorities will help you reunite with your family, out of the view of the press and social media. You are not alone. You are loved. Please call the authorities and ask for help. All anyone wants is for you to be healthy and with people who care about you.
 
  • #822
Suppose, for civil discourse sake ~ Kiely left voluntarily, for reasons known only to her, but never ever thought her disappearance would blow up like this with her name, face and car now blasted all over the country. Now what does she do? How does she save face with her friends and peers? How does she make this up to her mama and beg for forgiveness? Don’t ya think a child, only 16, deserves compassion and understanding?
JMO, but I think she would probably reach out to a peer.
 
  • #823
I don't know who was (still) there and who wasn't and had left before she went missing. My post was just one explanation why people didn't see her leave and why you sometimes don't say goodbye. But maybe you are right. Your post brings up another question...if everybody she knew was gone why did she stay, if she did?
The following is speculation based on SS’s statements to msm:
I think KR was waiting by her car at 12:15 am, probably alone, for SS. At 11:00 pm when SS and “others” were in KR’s car, they made plans for KR to drive SS home. They separated when they got out of the car, but did they agree to meet back there at 12:15? KR texted her Mom around 11:30 and asked if she could have a curfew extension and she would leave the party at 12:15. Mom said okay.
I think SS went back to KR’s car 10 minutes late. SS said she said goodbye to KR in person at 12:25 and told her she was getting a ride with someone else. She said she felt KR was too intoxicated to drive. That would have left KR alone and vulnerable at or near her car about 8 minutes before her phone was shut off or died. Thoughts?
 
  • #824
8/20/2022 -- The Placer County Sheriff’s Office and Nevada County Sheriff's Office continue to deploy numerous resources to locate 16-year-old Kiely Rodni and her silver 2013 Honda CR-V. Kiely was reported missing on August 6th, after she attended a party with 200-300 juveniles and young adults at the Prosser Family Campground, in Nevada County. The task force led by the Placer County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate her disappearance and establish leads to locate Kiely. The figures outlined above are reflective of investigative and search and rescue efforts from August 19th.

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  • #825
MOD NOTE:

1. The median income of the area is totally and completely off topic.

2. Keily's home is not missing. Keily did not go missing from her home. Sleuthing her home is sleuthing her family, and we ALL know that sleuthing family is not permitted.

If you need to brush up on the rules, the most relevant links are in my signature.
 
  • #826
The following is speculation based on SS’s statements to msm:
I think KR was waiting by her car at 12:15 am, probably alone, for SS. At 11:00 pm when SS and “others” were in KR’s car, they made plans for KR to drive SS home. They separated when they got out of the car, but did they agree to meet back there at 12:15? KR texted her Mom around 11:30 and asked if she could have a curfew extension and she would leave the party at 12:15. Mom said okay.
I think SS went back to KR’s car 10 minutes late. SS said she said goodbye to KR in person at 12:25 and told her she was getting a ride with someone else. She said she felt KR was too intoxicated to drive. That would have left KR alone and vulnerable at or near her car about 8 minutes before her phone was shut off or died. Thoughts?
It’s possible that a guy maybe offered to drive her home because she was inebriated, saying he could call for a ride home once he’d dropped her and her vehicle off. And then he succumbed to sinister temptation, and didn’t drop her off.

Other than an accident on the way home by herself, or an overdose, that at least a possible scenario.
 
  • #827
I think this is likely as well, but there's a few obvious questions...

If KR were driving the most direct route back to the Lost Trail Lodge and she went off the road, I think she would have been found by now. The road from the campground to 89 is highly trafficked, it does not have steep embankments.

If she made it to 89 and turned left (south), there are some embankments on both sides, but it's my understanding this area has been searched extensively.

If she made it down 89 to I-80, she'd go west for a couple of exits. I-80 for these couple of exits isn't remote, and has concrete barriers on both sides of the road. I think it's safe to say she didn't crash here.

That leaves the Donner Pass Road exit she would have taken to Cold Stream Rd. I mentioned this in my previous post. The sheriffs were searching this area today. I also searched this area. I went from the exit all the way to the lodge. This area is "wooded" but our definition of wooded in Tahoe is not like the rest of the country. I've attached a photo I took today. We don't get much rain here. We don't have thick foliage like you have in New England or the south. It's mostly large trees and some smaller manzanita bushes. It's not like a car could drive 30 feet off the road to be never seen again. You'd see it.View attachment 360112View attachment 360113View attachment 360114
That information is all very helpful.
 
  • #828
Perhaps she meant nothing by the statement, but when SS was asked if Kiely had a boyfriend, she did reply "She was, as we say, rocking the single life."

Granted, I'm old but "rocking" it sounds rather...active? Could she have been implying Kiely was having fun meeting new guys at the party? But did not want to come right out and say as much? Again, just another thought, since it could offer an explanation if Kiely thought she met someone new and nice who turned out to be not so nice....and possibly older than they appeared/claimed.
I wouldn't read too much into teenage lingo :)
 
  • #829
a lot of these kids likely just graduated and are heading to college. being associated with this, either directly or indirectly, could impact scholarships, admittance, family reputation, future etc. add a high stress/pressure/expectation upbringing and environment and maybe a high profile family there is, for them, a lot on the line.
I 100% agree with you. Parents' gut instincts will be to protect their own children and their future plans. I don't think that the parents know that something specific happened....they just don't want any guilt by association if their kid was at the party where a girl disappeared.
 
  • #830
JMO, but I think she would probably reach out to a peer.

From what we have read, my guess is that the only people she would trust would be Jagger or her bff Mads.

I would hope in that situation that they would find a way to notify her parents of her safety.

I was struck by that comment by Jagger in the Reno video that she was fine.
 
  • #831
Well argued, @TruckeeLocal.

But as others have said, LE has confirmed KR was a the party. IIRC, that was confirmed from video LE has of KR in that pink and white sweatshirt. But LE only showed the public a stock image of the sweatshirt. So understandably some may continue to question if KR was actually there.

I am personally ignoring all statements from party attendees for now to avoid getting confused and to avoid taking those statements as verified truth.

So IMO, we don't yet know with certainty:

1. When KR arrived at the party

2. Whether KR stayed or came and went

3. When KR left the party location or how she left the party location

4. When the party ended and how people drove out - in groups, solo?

5. Who she socialized with at the party and who were old or new friends

6. Who she called or texted that night

7. What KR did and consume at the party

8. What KR's physical or mental health status was at the party

Etc....

I think its always a good thing to question data and good sleuthers turn every detail updide down and sideways. But we should all try to stay true to mission here on WS - sensitive fact based sleuthing.

All that said, this morning I woke up wondering if KR voluntarily disappeared.

Hope we know more facts soon!

ETA: #4, #6
I was pondering some of these this morning, to also include a voluntary disappearance. I can't explain why the possibility of a voluntary disappearance moved up my list other than maybe a gut feeling. Also, #3 is one I've thought more about today. Exactly when she left is not really known since LE has stated they've yet to hear from anyone who saw her leave. Along those lines, though, if she left earlier I can't explain the 12:33 ping showing her phone in the area. #5 gives me pause. If most of the high schoolers she knew had curfews might they have left earlier leaving mostly an older crowd she didn't really know?

The voluntary disappearance is one that has hit me today. Could she be somewhere else? LE has to have looked at bank or credit activity.
 
  • #832
I was pondering some of these this morning, to also include a voluntary disappearance. I can't explain why the possibility of a voluntary disappearance moved up my list other than maybe a gut feeling. Also, #3 is one I've thought more about today. Exactly when she left is not really known since LE has stated they've yet to hear from anyone who saw her leave. Along those lines, though, if she left earlier I can't explain the 12:33 ping showing her phone in the area. #5 gives me pause. If most of the high schoolers she knew had curfews might they have left earlier leaving mostly an older crowd she didn't really know?

The voluntary disappearance is one that has hit me today. Could she be somewhere else? LE has to have looked at bank or credit activity.
I can easily see some one "taking a few days away," but two weeks is a long time to go without contact for most people unless there was some history of running away or disappearing, IMO. It really seems unlikely with the calls to Mom about her curfew and the plans already set for the next day- of course I do not know this person because she also supposedly told her friends she wanted to get really drunk, so.... unclear to me if something was bothering her, or if she had some secrets, IMO.
 
  • #833
The following is speculation based on SS’s statements to msm:
I think KR was waiting by her car at 12:15 am, probably alone, for SS. At 11:00 pm when SS and “others” were in KR’s car, they made plans for KR to drive SS home. They separated when they got out of the car, but did they agree to meet back there at 12:15? KR texted her Mom around 11:30 and asked if she could have a curfew extension and she would leave the party at 12:15. Mom said okay.
I think SS went back to KR’s car 10 minutes late. SS said she said goodbye to KR in person at 12:25 and told her she was getting a ride with someone else. She said she felt KR was too intoxicated to drive. That would have left KR alone and vulnerable at or near her car about 8 minutes before her phone was shut off or died. Thoughts?
I think this is a good possibility @OldCop I have leaned towards a water accident but have recently thought about something similar to what you have stated in your post. This is all MOO and not casting suspicion. What SS said about the 12:36 phone call with KR made me think there was a little tension. Last night while having my hair done KR came up and one of the young clients stated she would be furious if she was supposed to drive home from a party with a friend and the friend ditched her. This made me think maybe the same thing happened to SS and KR. And like you stated KR was left alone and vulnerable to either an accident in or out of water or foul play.
Again, MOO not making any accusation.
 
  • #834
The following is speculation based on SS’s statements to msm:
I think KR was waiting by her car at 12:15 am, probably alone, for SS. At 11:00 pm when SS and “others” were in KR’s car, they made plans for KR to drive SS home. They separated when they got out of the car, but did they agree to meet back there at 12:15? KR texted her Mom around 11:30 and asked if she could have a curfew extension and she would leave the party at 12:15. Mom said okay.
I think SS went back to KR’s car 10 minutes late. SS said she said goodbye to KR in person at 12:25 and told her she was getting a ride with someone else. She said she felt KR was too intoxicated to drive. That would have left KR alone and vulnerable at or near her car about 8 minutes before her phone was shut off or died. Thoughts?
If you put it like this it sound plausible. It could have gone like this. I read nowhere SS and KR made a solid arrangement to meet each other at 12:15 at KR's car (where was it parked btw). As SS seems so "pointy" about the timeline in her statements, why would she leave away an agreement like this out of her statements. It would have made her whole story much more logical. But my guess is she didn't show up at all or couldn't find KR and just left, being maybe "wasted" herself. This would mean the saying goodbye in person at 12:25 didn't took place.This could be the reason for the phone call from KR to SS at 12.36 (still strange because KR phone supposedly shut off or died just before that, correct me if I'm wrong) where KR asks "where are you"? I'm sure LE checked this last call, but nobody knows what was actually said. And Kiely ended up alone...all kind of things could have happened.
 
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  • #835
Perhaps she meant nothing by the statement, but when SS was asked if Kiely had a boyfriend, she did reply "She was, as we say, rocking the single life."

I wonder if that was really so? I thought I read on here she had a boyfriend - and also an ex-boyfriend she was still friendly with?

Oh, maybe it's me....I don't know what these youngsters mean by 'single' now anyway. It's all a blur.

MOO.
 
  • #836
If you put it like this it sound plausible. It could have gone like this. I read nowhere SS and KR made a solid arrangement to meet each other at 12:15 at KR's car (where was it parked btw). As SS seems so "pointy" about the timeline in her statements, why would she leave away an agreement like this out of her statements. It would have made her whole story much more logical. But my guess is she didn't show up at all or couldn't find KR and just left, being maybe "wasted" herself. This would mean the saying goodbye in person at 12:25 didn't took place.This could be the reason for the phone call from KR to SS at 12.36 (still strange because KR phone supposedly shut off or died just before that, correct me if I'm wrong) where KR asks "where are you"?
This is my current theory as well:
- KR makes plans to drive SS home
- SS finds another ride *without* telling KR or saying goodbye
- KR waits around, then around 12:25 (10 min after they were supposed to meet) calls SS to ask where she is because it's time to go home but SS is nowhere to be found
- when she finds out KR is missing, SS tries to "soften" the story of how she left KR there alone by saying she said goodbye in person before leaving, but in the process messes up the timeline by placing the phone call at 12:36 (11 minutes after supposedly saying goodbye), perhaps before finding out that KR's phone last pinged at 12:33

MOO. (Not trying to disparage anyone, just to figure out possible explanations for the timeline inconsistencies.)
 
  • #837
Given that there are apparently second homes and vacation cottages in the area, I'm surprised LE hasn't asked the owners if they can have a local caretaker to check their property. If LE is treating this as an abduction there are places where the car could be hidden. In the water is one and they have AWP checking that now. Hidden in retail parking lot is another. It would seem that LE could check off another by having vacant homes checked.
 
  • #838
Anxiously awaiting updates from the Adventures With Purpose recovery team. If you haven’t watched their YouTube videos then I highly recommend it. I’m so thankful one of the agencies reached out to them and they were willing to come search. I never want to discount the search efforts than have been made, water is just much more difficult to search than most of us imagine. If she’s in the water, I hope today is the day.
 
  • #839
Anxiously awaiting updates from the Adventures With Purpose recovery team. If you haven’t watched their YouTube videos then I highly recommend it. I’m so thankful one of the agencies reached out to them and they were willing to come search. I never want to discount the search efforts than have been made, water is just much more difficult to search than most of us imagine. If she’s in the water, I hope today is the day.
Will they be checking several places, or just one?
 
  • #840
OK, I don't know if People Magazine doesn't have their facts straight but they are saying Kiely was last SEEN at ABOUT 12:30. This is reported twice by them on 08 and 19 August.

I suppose in among all the updates and news I missed this. I know two other events are mentioned around that time. One is supposedly a conversation with SS over the phone at 12:36 and the other is her last phone ping at 12:33. If LE is stating they don't have anyone seeing her leave. (Of course, the article states ABOUT 12:30 so that could be 12:20 to 12:40 or an even larger time span.) That's placing her last sighting and her last phone ping VERY close together. This is, of course, from a media source and not LE.
 
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