Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

[Gemmie]

I already did. Take a look at post #145. <modsnip>

One of the things I try doing is to use the site's search function and search for whatever keywords I'm looking for in "This Thread" (one of the search options). It's even better if you think you know the members name to narrow it down. I find a lot of stuff that way. I have to say, I also find a lot of stuff searching for keywords in Google, and including the word websleuths to my search. I find a lot of stuff that way!

 

[Arkay]

I'm hoping the CHP's traffic fatality report sheds some light on the details of how Kiely's car ended up in that reservoir and when. I don't think I've ever read one of their reports (if they are even released to the public) so I don't know how detailed they are. Hopefully, the report will be of value to the national park or public safety or whoever is in charge of the signage and safety of those roads around there so they can put measures in place to prevent this happening again.

RIP, Kiely.

I certainly agree that something must be done to make this area safer, for kids or anyone in fact who would congregate under these conditions.

I'll attach this disclaimer to my post---I know my vantage point is very different from those whose lives are in a rural area. I've lived my whole life in NYC, though I've been to every state except Alaska and Arkansas, and have seen the rural lifestyle up close when visiting relatives who live in those areas.

My point is that I do believe an area where kids are known by parents, LE and the community at large, to hang out late and consume alcohol and drugs, is IMO a recipe for disaster, sooner or later. This time it's Kiely.

I'm wondering how viable is it for LE to barricade or throw chains around some trees to lock up that area after dark? Is this something that can be done, or it simply wouldn't work?

Is there truly nothing else for kids that age to do? Besides the obvious tragedy of this case, a lot of local and state money must have gone into searching for her.

Can money be spent instead on building some kind of entertainment complex that would attract older teens? Or is the absence of parents and LE the whole point?

I'm sincerely asking. In my city, you go down the elevator and there's a world of things to do right on your block. Of course NYC has problems, but not with finding something to do. And if you're not interested in the 50 places to go on your block, you take a train, a bus or an Uber to go elsewhere. In my day there was no Uber, but if it was really late we'd pool our money for car service.

I'm asking because here, while there are public playgrounds everywhere, they are locked at 9 PM because by that time the little kids are gone, and it's just teenagers getting into trouble after that time. Hence, they are locked out.

 

[Truckeeite]

I certainly agree that something must be done to make this area safer, for kids or anyone in fact who would congregate under these conditions.

I'll attach this disclaimer to my post---I know my vantage point is very different from those whose lives are in a rural area. I've lived my whole life in NYC, though I've been to every state except Alaska and Arkansas, and have seen the rural lifestyle up close when visiting relatives who live in those areas.

My point is that I do believe an area where kids are known by parents, LE and the community at large, to hang out late and consume alcohol and drugs, is IMO a recipe for disaster, sooner or later. This time it's Kiely.

I'm wondering how viable is it for LE to barricade or throw chains around some trees to lock up that area after dark? Is this something that can be done, or it simply wouldn't work?

Is there truly nothing else for kids that age to do? Besides the obvious tragedy of this case, a lot of local and state money must have gone into searching for her.

Can money be spent instead on building some kind of entertainment complex that would attract older teens? Or is the absence of parents and LE the whole point?

I'm sincerely asking. In my city, you go down the elevator and there's a world of things to do right on your block. Of course NYC has problems, but not with finding something to do. And if you're not interested in the 50 places to go on your block, you take a train, a bus or an Uber to go elsewhere. In my day there was no Uber, but if it was really late we'd pool our money for car service.

I'm asking because here, while there are public playgrounds everywhere, they are locked at 9 PM because by that time the little kids are gone, and it's just teenagers getting Into trouble after that time. Hence, they are locked out.

Based on my drive out there, even putting up gates at the ends of the roads leading to water (with warning signs) - that you have to get out of your car to open - would help. I agree with all the illegal activity occurring it was a disaster waiting to happen, one way or another.

 

[SteveP]

Here where I live, I am only a couple miles from a state park, with a large lake. The park closes every night at 9 during the spring and summer, and 8 the rest of the year. Barriers, like railroad crossing arms, are employed to keep people from entering after closing. I cannot promise you that no one ever sneaks in after closing, but it certainly would not be a large gathering, as it is still patrolled nightly by sheriff's deputies and park rangers. Something like this could be very useful in that area, and very well may prevent another tragic death. JMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

You could never police or gate every fishing hole, quarry, pond, or even every rural lake. Just in the small town where I live there are a few dozen places where an accident like this could happen.

 

[wary]

Personally, I think that Adventures with Purpose is a wonderful name. It warms my heart, every time I’m reminded what the initials stand for.

 

[Warwick7]

ITA. I think we should be careful about accepting, as fact, something a PI, who I don't know if was even working in any official capacity, says, if it has not been confirmed by, or worse, contradicts something LE has said. JMO

Not sure I agree with this.
Idk....

 

[Charlot123]

It was not a boat ramp. It is a dirt beach.

I'm curious if you've watched the FB video we noted earlier in the thread, the one approved by the mods?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1203404573561955

Her car was not found at the party site. Have you watched the mod-approved FB video and examined the maps we all worked on over the past week to get clear on where the party was versus where she was found? <modsnip - no link for info posted as fact>

The call to her friend was said to be at 12:36 am not 12:26 am. I posted the citation to MSM article in the earlier post.

I did not watch the video, but since you linked it, I shall, and thank you very much for the job done for us. TBH, I simply didn’t know how this piece of non-paved road is called. Given a choice, I’d call it “a sandway”, but the only term related to the surrounding area I encountered was “boat ramp”. Sorry, I used a wrong mark, and again, thank you for the linked video!

 

[Warwick7]

Here where I live, I am only a couple miles from a state park, with a large lake. The park closes every night at 9 during the spring and summer, and 8 the rest of the year. Barriers, like railroad crossing arms, are employed to keep people from entering after closing. I cannot promise you that no one ever sneaks in after closing, but it certainly would not be a large gathering, as it is still patrolled nightly by sheriff's deputies and park rangers. Something like this could be very useful in that area, and very well may prevent another tragic death. JMO

You can never keep teenagers out. Where's there's a will there's a way.

 

[Bsc87bsc]

@Bsc87bsc??

Absolutely

 

[SteveP]

You can never keep teenagers out. Where's there's a will there's a way.

Yeah, realistically, I know that, but you don't have to make it easy for them. JMO

 

[Warwick7]

Yeah, realistically, I know that, but you don't have to make it easy for them. JMO

Did you party as a teen?
Easy or not they do it.

 

[Ixchel13]

Right, it could have information about anything. I imagine it does. I remember posts saying it was inundated with people submitting duplicate tips, so hopefully LE has been able to wade through and get everything that was directly associated with people at the party.

Also, LE said they interviewed 400 people in connection. (It will take me a moment to locate source again, mentioned by a few posters in prior threads.)

Edited to ask something: Let's say people HAVE come forward to say they saw Kiely leave the party. What reason would LE have now to keep that private? It seems innocuous enough? i.e. "We now know a couple in fact saw the silver CRV leave just after 12:30 pm, but did not realize it was Kiely until ____ LE confirms..." or "Kids at the party came forward at the anonymous teen meetings to say they waved good bye.."

elementary my dear Watson

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

You can never keep teenagers out. Where's there's a will there's a way.

It would at least create a huge visual indicator that perhaps you should not drive through the gated area. Imagine how many tourists may not be aware of that water right there, with no warning signs??? Would not stop you from barreling through, but at least you'd know the road no longer exists or there's a cliff or water or something the gate is trying to keep you safe from.

 

[RedHaus]

Absolutely

BBM

Thank you, @Bsc87bsc for responding to my call!

Here is the question from @steeltowngirl you are answering so folks can follow along:
"With the Honda having been submerged for two weeks, will they still be able to assess any mechanical issues - such as failed brakes, electrical short that might have caused headlights to fail, stuck gas pedal?"

 

[Ixchel13]

Maybe but Kiely's upbringing even by Tahoe standards would have given her almost certainly superior skills. She learned how to drive going in and out of Lost Trail Lodge, said to be 4 miles of treacherous dirt roads. In winter, the lodge is only accessible by snowmobile. Kids here are snowmobiling and ATV riding before they drive. She was supposed to go camping with friends the next day. This is not a city kid clueless about nature stuck in the woods.

If she voluntarily or involuntarily took a substance like date rape drugs or hallucinogens, then I suppose some of those could ruin the cognitive abilities of just about anyone.

by saying voluntarily or involuntarily, just for clarification, you are stating that she might have voluntarily ingested a date rape drug. that is science fiction, even if i get another week.

 

[Charlot123]

Based on my drive out there, even putting up gates at the ends of the roads leading to water (with warning signs) - that you have to get out of your car to open - would help. I agree with all the illegal activity occurring it was a disaster waiting to happen, one way or another.

Does that road have street lights? They are a must in such areas.
Even without illegal activity, some things need to be foreseen. A totally sober camper could have gotten into the reservoir on a moonless night.

 

[Beekarina]

re: I'm wondering how viable is it for LE to barricade or throw chains around some trees to lock up that area after dark? Is this something that can be done, or it simply wouldn't work?

If they do learn she drove right straight into the water, I would hope some bright signs, maybe some sort of solar motion lights/reflecting lights, something that would not be "ON" all the time, but would warn approaching vehicles as they made their way to those forks in the road at least could be implemented?

The lake nearest to my home now has something like you suggested on the entry road, but the barrier is not always shut during the summer season. There is something of a "use at your own risk" warning if people wish to go down and swim after the lifeguards leave the public area. There are campsites nearby. There are also homes across the lake, and people out on boats that sort of thing. People DO go down there late at night and party, but I don't recall anyone ever driving a vehicle into any part of the water, or any of the area lakes There was a boat related fatality at some crazy late hour a few years ago though.

The kids partying in the woods where I grew up? Not a chance of keeping them out. They are going up on old logging roads, on true ATV trails, hiking trails, etc. They would find a way. It is THAT ingrained in the local culture to party out there. They have literally had big blow out drunken parties in memory of kids who died in crashes the week before. It boggles the mind....

 

[Puzzles8]

A simple explanation, but maybe in KR's confusion, she accidentally hit the gas pedal hard rather than the brakes.

The autopsy will answer so many questions, I hope it is released.

JMO

 

[Ixchel13]

They have literally had big blow out drunken parties in memory of kids who died in crashes the week before. It boggles the mind....quote Beekarina


Beekarina can you explain this with a link, because i searched the prosser area and only came up with one male adult drowned there, and no dead kids in crashes around there..

I could be wrong, but I thought this thread is just about the death of KR and just that specific area..