Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

[tayaway]

Just watched the vid. Granpa sitting on the beach the entire time LE were there to remove the vehicle and her remains - somebody was cutting onions in the room here as I watched. [edit: spelling]

MOO: I expect LE followed up on the FB chatter about an alleged fight she got into with another party goer. They must have received the tow truck company's recorded vid/phone info about Nick the driver's encounter by now. The coroner will be able to tell by tissue changes whether or not she drowned or by some other way pre-submersion, or whether she was unconscious, ya?

I’m just watching now. I find it hard to believe the tow-truck driver could have seen her the morning after the party. From everything we know about Kiely, the girl who asked permission for a short extension to her curfew the night before, it seems incredulous that, having access to a phone, she didn’t at any point contact home in the subsequent 10/11 hours.

The vid mentions that the FBI confirmed that her phone died at 12:33 a.m. She wouldn't be able to use it until it was charged again.

 

[Beekarina]

If Kiely was planning on driving straight home from the party, why is the Truly can still in her car? Perhaps when Sami said they were "trading drinks," maybe the kids each brought a case of alcoholic beverages and they traded with each other. I would think she would have cleaned up any evidence of drinking and maybe drugs (not sure that's a blunt), before heading home.

Something else to consider: Would an empty Truly can still be in the vehicle near open windows? It would be pretty light. So more than likely this is a full can?

I have a serious non-alcoholic seltzer habit, and actually had an empty fly out of an open window on a windy day.

Again, only thinking things through with all of you.

 

[Beekarina]

RSBM.
Or, a third option considered up thread is whether KR was using her bright wit to call attention to her blight, if she was in fact in the midst of some sort of abduction... A veiled call for help if you may that went unnoticed by TT guy? IMO.

Just throwing that out there... not sure if I think that is a real possibility. If it is, it makes me even sadder about this case.

Or....the young woman was not Kiely. I do not want to get really weird on the thread, but it may have been Kiely's vehicle, and someone else driving it.

No theory on why they would then behave in a way to call attention to themselves, or why on earth they would call a tow company if they were in the middle of something criminal/sketchy, but just another possibility since we do have a big blow out party, substance use and now an alleged fight between Kiely and another girl that may have caused the "mass exodus" around 12:30 from the party.

All so strange and disturbing.

 

[indicolite22]

AWP did once try and claim a reward. There was a dispute about it (see link). Not sure if this influenced the new policy of not taking rewards. Completely MOO but taking rewards would be better than trying to fund AWP's excellent work with a Youtube channel. If a reward is offered and the terms of the reward are met, it seems appropriate to me that AWP would get that reward.

Dive team that found missing Iowa man's body might sue for $100,000 reward

The Oregon dive team that found the body of missing Iowan Ethan Kazmerzak says it may sue for the $100,000 reward pledged for solving his disappearance.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Most of the old cases would never be solved if they were relying on reward money. Only taking on cases where a reward is offered seems unethical. The YouTube channel is also their outlet to spread the word about their mission and educate people about the dangers. A while ago AWP was offered a TV show which they declined because they could not do as many cases and would have to relinquish all control.

 

[CharlestonGal]

AWP did once try and claim a reward. There was a dispute about it (see link). Not sure if this influenced the new policy of not taking rewards. Completely MOO but taking rewards would be better than trying to fund AWP's excellent work with a Youtube channel. If a reward is offered and the terms of the reward are met, it seems appropriate to me that AWP would get that reward.

Dive team that found missing Iowa man's body might sue for $100,000 reward

The Oregon dive team that found the body of missing Iowan Ethan Kazmerzak says it may sue for the $100,000 reward pledged for solving his disappearance.

www.desmoinesregister.com

I'm not sure where the whole "Adventures with Purpose does not take rewards" thing came from. This is what they told the LA Times on 8/23/22:

Nevada County and Placer County sheriff’s officials fielded questions from the media about their search efforts after Adventures with Purpose located her vehicle in two days. Nevada County sheriff’s Capt. Sam Brown said while his team did search the area, it is not expert with underwater search.

Adventures with Purpose explained in a video that it used two sonar boats, a magnet and other equipment to locate Kiely’s vehicle. The group says it’s funded through sponsorships, rewards, donations and its branded merchandise.

This dive team found Kiely Rodni's body. It's searching for more missing California women

The Oregon-based volunteer dive team that located the body of missing 16-year-old Kiely Rodni is now searching for two other missing California women.

www.latimes.com

 

[Beekarina]

I’m just watching now. I find it hard to believe the tow-truck driver could have seen her the morning after the party. From everything we know about Kiely, the girl who asked permission for a short extension to her curfew the night before, it seems incredulous that, having access to a phone, she didn’t at any point contact home in the subsequent 10/11 hours.

I would tend to agree with this, however I thought about it a bit and I think even a teen with a good relationship with parents? Young person drama, relationship issues, being in the heat of the moment some sort of "blow out" fight, if that really happened? It could have changed the course of the evening, entirely, IMO.

Kiely may asked for the extension to give friends a ride home or some other reason, and intended on coming home, but then whatever the drama was that resulted in the alleged fight occurred. And then in the aftermath, she was really upset about it, and probably drunk, and that's not a great combination.

From there, I think the accident scenario becomes more likely than I did earlier. (upset, distracted, maybe on her phone yelling at someone, etc, bam, into the water.)

I also think, unfortunately, other scenarios become more possible. Including her staying out all night. We have no way of knowing if the blow out fight really happened, but if it did? It explains a lot. And depending on what caused it? Say it was over a guy? She could have connected with the guy, or another guy and gone with a guy instead of home. She knew her mom was going to sleep. Getting in trouble for being late may not have seemed important, in the moment.

Young people get really caught up in stuff, especially relationship stuff, and fights among friends, fights over guys. They;re impulsive, and of the moment still, even the brightest ones.

Speculation on my part, but a *possible* explanation for how Kiely may have stayed out all night, and the tow truck driver *may* have seen her after the party, and not before.

 

[MntnHiker]

My opinion of the tow truck driver is that he was being truthful about helping a couple in an SUV that was maybe a weird encounter, but that it was not Kiely nor her vehicle.

He never says he confirmed it was her license plate number, correct? SUVs, even silver ones, are probably pretty common. Additionally, while Kiely was a beautiful young woman, there is nothing that would striking or unusual that would make her stand out, ie bright green hair, a face tattoo, lobe extenders, etc. She's a beautiful blonde haired young woman and I am sure there are other young women in the area who have similar complexions. I do believe he honestly THINKS it was her, but I strongly doubt it was. And this may seem nit picky, but when questioned by AWP if her gray hoodie was dark or light, he said light. Yet, I would really categorize that Lana del Ray hoodie that people have said she was wearing as dark grey. That is subjective, I understand, but thought I'd also mention it.

By now, I'm sure LE have determined it was not her/her car that was helped by this man, yes? I know the driver himself doesn't have the cam footage, the call logs, etc., but SOMEONE does and I can't imagine LE have not already explored this option. MOO

 

[PiperAria]

Or....the young woman was not Kiely. I do not want to get really weird on the thread, but it may have been Kiely's vehicle, and someone else driving it.

No theory on why they would then behave in a way to call attention to themselves, or why on earth they would call a tow company if they were in the middle of something criminal/sketchy

rsbm
Keep in mind that I’m a writer, and I tend toward the conniving/conspiracy type stuff in my own made-up stories, but my first thought was that IF (and it seems now to be a big if, until more evidence is presented such as tow driver’s dash cam) it was someone else, it could be an attempt to get someone unrelated to an incident/a stranger to touch things in/get inside the vehicle
edited to add MOO

 

[Beekarina]

rsbm
Keep in mind that I’m a writer, and I tend toward the conniving/conspiracy type stuff in my own made-up stories, but my first thought was that IF (and it seems now to be a big if, until more evidence is presented such as tow driver’s dash cam) it was someone else, it could be an attempt to get someone unrelated to an incident/a stranger to touch things in/get inside the vehicle
edited to add MOO

Interesting thought.

That would really demonstrate premeditation IF someone harmed Kiely.

It's a lot to process. I mean, from what we know, she's basically a young girl, pretty, smart, seems well-liked who went to a party. I could see how an overdose would be possible, an accident of some kind with kids horsing around, but I haven't personally been able to sort out motivation anyone would have for intentionally harming her, dumping her vehicle, that sort of thing.

You just never know though. And asking someone how a seatbelt works and having them demonstrate it is exceptionally bizarre.

The more I think about the interaction, I have to wonder why the guy didn't call law enforcement?

He does look young though, and probably thought they were just hungover/has seen it all? Personally, I would have been thinking a person who needs to ask me how to use a seatbelt should not be driving.

 

[Warwick7]

I just watched.

My impression is that AWP was outstanding in locating Kiely. That is the indisputable bottom line.

I do think this video was slickly done, edited for maximum drama, and designed to boost their profile and income. For example, if they were trying to respectfully stay tight-lipped when they found her, so as to not cause alarm among those who were watching, or to not alarm Kiely's family until it was confirmed,(as Doug said),they could simply have chosen to forego filming altogether. They also didn't need to include some negative comments about LE being unable to find her.

However, that's how things are done now. Subscribers and views bring money, which they need. Personally I would prefer that they would just be able to receive any rewards offered in any cases that they've recovered, to avoid the drama, suspense and hype aspects that they include here.

They are a production company founded by a self-described influencer as much as they are a recovery operation, but if that's what it takes to find the missing then I get it.

Nick the tow-truck driver sounds sincere, IMO, but I believe he was either confused or mistaken that he helped Kiely. I've said before that dispatch would have all the records of which day and time he went out on this call and would also have logged the license plate, make and model of the vehicle he went to boost.

And if that girl WAS Kiely, why would she be asking him how to put on a seatbelt, when all we've heard is that she was driving for years? It either wasn't her, or if it was her, she was not in a sober state of mind. But I still don't believe it was her, and the car was not where it would've been according to Nick's statement.

The fish swimming around the car...devastating.

Jmo

ETA: didn't the tow truck driver state that the girl's phone was dead and therefore the boy she was with made the call to roadside assistance? So wouldn't it be elementary for LE to check the dispatch incoming call records, call the boy's number, and have him ascertain who he is and who was the girl with him? Am I missing something?

BBM
I thought LE called them but I was politely corrected. AWP had many many requests from the public to come.

I have deep respect for LE. After watching the press conference and what was said about AWP (like using the word sketchy) I was not ok with that.

I think there are some zingers back and forth between LE and AwP, like how LE was unable to find her.

 

[Gigi3]

Well, I just watched the video. It was one of the most heartbreaking YouTube videos I’ve seen, but very well done, IMO.

God bless Kiely’s family and friends, along with the hardworking AWP crew. Thank goodness there are people in the world who truly want to make a difference.

 

[CharlestonGal]

My opinion of the tow truck driver is that he was being truthful about helping a couple in an SUV that was maybe a weird encounter, but that it was not Kiely nor her vehicle.

He never says he confirmed it was her license plate number, correct? SUVs, even silver ones, are probably pretty common. Additionally, while Kiely was a beautiful young woman, there is nothing that would striking or unusual that would make her stand out, ie bright green hair, a face tattoo, lobe extenders, etc. She's a beautiful blonde haired young woman and I am sure there are other young women in the area who have similar complexions. I do believe he honestly THINKS it was her, but I strongly doubt it was. And this may seem nit picky, but when questioned by AWP if her gray hoodie was dark or light, he said light. Yet, I would really categorize that Lana del Ray hoodie that people have said she was wearing as dark grey. That is subjective, I understand, but thought I'd also mention it.

By now, I'm sure LE have determined it was not her/her car that was helped by this man, yes? I know the driver himself doesn't have the cam footage, the call logs, etc., but SOMEONE does and I can't imagine LE have not already explored this option. MOO

I think the tow truck driver did respond to this call but it clearly was not a 2013 Honda CR V. The tow truck driver stated the call was resolved when he discovered the client was attempting to start the car in neutral. This could not have been a 2013 Honda CR V because the owner's manual clearly states the car WILL start in neutral but it is safer to start in park.

Whoever the tow driver responded to was not driving a 2013 Honda CR V.

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[PiperAria]

The more I think about the interaction, I have to wonder why the guy didn't call law enforcement?

He does look young though, and probably thought they were just hungover/has seen it all? Personally, I would have been thinking a person who needs to ask me how to use a seatbelt should not be driving.

bbm/rsbm
Exactly. I would think the same.
IMO it depends on his experience with suspicious things in the past. Working with the public, especially in stressful situations, you see some weird stuff. I’ve had a few times (although I was not working the same job) where I called LE after an encounter where something didn’t feel right, and in my area…they did nothing. However I live nowhere near Truckee and all jurisdictions will be different
MOO

 

[Beekarina]

I think the tow truck driver did respond to this call but it clearly was not a 2013 Honda CR V. The tow truck driver stated the call was resolved when he discovered the client was attempting to start the car in neutral. This could not have been a 2013 Honda CR V because the owner's manual clearly states the car WILL start in neutral but it is safer to start in park.

Whoever the tow driver responded to was not driving a 2013 Honda CR V.
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This is very useful information.

I have almost exclusively owned manual transmission cars, so I have a question.

What if her CRV was not fully in any gear? i.e. it looked to be in neutral but was not quite there? i.e. stuck between reverse and neutral or drive and neutral?

I've done something like this on an older Volvo we have for our young drivers and the car wouldn't let me do anything. I sat there like an idiot trying to remove keys, because I'm so used to driving a stick. Realizing not the same make, year, etc.

Thanks!

 

[CharlestonGal]

This is very useful information.

I have almost exclusively owned manual transmission cars, so I have a question.

What if her CRV was not fully in any gear? i.e. it looked to be in neutral but was not quite there? i.e. stuck between reverse and neutral or drive and neutral?

I've done something like this on an older Volvo we have for our young drivers and the car wouldn't let me do anything. I sat there like an idiot trying to remove keys, because I'm so used to driving a stick. Realizing not the same make, year, etc.

Thanks!

The driver did not state the car was stuck between gears. The driver stated the car was in neutral. jmo

 

[Look4theHelpers]

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That is RAW rolling paper cones that are used to pack marijuana with. It's easier to buy the cones than to try and roll your own joint.

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[Beekarina]

The driver did not state the car was stuck between gears. The driver stated the car was in neutral. jmo

I wish we knew if he has gotten in the seat, etc himself or what actually took place.

I'm curious if an automatic would start if stuck between gears now? I don't have a CRV to test it on. I know the Volvo would not turn *off* until it was in fully pushed park, for obvious reasons, and I felt like an idiot, haha. Would a CRV (typo edit) turn OFF in neutral too? Sounds as though it would.

I guess I'm wondering if her transmission could have been iffy or if it wasn't all the way in (i.e.being hungover, tired, still impaired) but if the assistance guy physically verified the CRV was in neutral, I'm overthinking.

 

[Beekarina]

That is RAW rolling papers cones that are used to pack marijuana with. It's easier to buy the cones than to try and roll your own joint.

Raw rolling cones image

Wow! Good catch!

From the link description Re: Made from a blend of unbleached fibers and finished with a natural gum line.

Interesting they would look so "new" after a couple of weeks in the water.

 

[OldCop]

That's all well and good, sort of, but that is not my concern. I'll quote myself:
"They aren't involved in any forensics and shouldn't be commenting on this specific case at this time."

Totally agree. Professional search and rescue groups who come in to assist law enforcement do not divulge what they found or what condition it was in. Many folks believe it is okay for AWP to say whatever they want about the car, the body, what gear it was in etc. They say that cannot hinder an investigation. It absolutely can, for the same reason LE holds back information about crime scenes.
You have people who give false confessions and you have people who inadvertently divulge information only the perpetrator would know. Splashing every bit of info about the car and body all over the press only makes the job much harder for LE and gives defense attorneys much fodder for a smoke and mirror defense.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I wish we knew if he has gotten in the seat, etc himself or what actually took place.

I'm curious if an automatic would start if stuck between gears now? I don't have a CRV to test it on. I know the Volvo would not turn *off* until it was in fully pushed park, for obvious reasons, and I felt like an idiot, haha. Would a CRV (typo edit) turn OFF in neutral too? Sounds as though it would.

I guess I'm wondering if her transmission could have been iffy or if it wasn't all the way in (i.e.being hungover, tired, still impaired) but if the assistance guy physically verified the CRV was in neutral, I'm overthinking.

Most cars and truck have a "neutral safety switch" which prevents engine startup unless the vehicle is in park or neutral. Looks like the 2013 CR-V has that switch.

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