Deceased/Not Found CA - Kristin Smart, 19, San Luis Obispo, 5/25/1996 *Guilty* #4

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48 Hours show tonight is on the Kristin Smart case. Watching it now.
 
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LinasK said:
48 Hours show tonight is on the Kristin Smart case. Watching it now.
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Thanks, LinasK! If you woudn't have mentioned it, I wouldn't have known it was one!
 
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Seattle1 said:
LE messed up big time early in the investigation with expired search warrants when LE was alleged to have been concerned over the cost of executing the warrant to dig up the homeowner's property without any results.

I believe the only search of Susan's property occurred during the Civil suit and it was not pursuant to a warrant but by permission from the owner--and ONLY where she allowed/designated her property searched.

At the time, I recall reading that the wire mesh would pose a problem for ground-penetrating radar but there may be newer technology today.

IMO, probable cause for obtaining a search warrant for Susan's property is still a challenge. During the preliminary hearing, I recall the prosecution could only establish that PF legally used Ruben's address for most of the years since Kristin was disappeared by PF, and never Susan's residence. MOO
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There was a witness who saw Paul, Ruben, Susan, and her boyfriend digging up the yard in the middle of the night. And Kristin's earring was on Susan's driveway. Isn't that enough probable cause?? I hope that the Smart's attorney revives the Civil suit against Ruben and Susan.
 
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Sonny Crockett said:
Anyone who still thinks that the F.'s are innocent in this case need to listen to the YOBY podcast in it's entirety. And, if someone still thinks they're innocent after listening to the entire podcast & hearing all of the information/research re: this case - then they have serious cognitive issues. It's extremely evident what happened here. The reason the case didn't go to trial until years after the crime was because no body has been found - which makes it more difficult to prosecute. However, even a 5-year old could put the pieces of this puzzle together without too much difficulty.

And - I am convinced that if the case were pursued aggressively, competently, and thoroughly by both the college & LE in the early days then it would have been solved at that time. By that I mean the following would have needed to happen:

1) KS's disappearance being taken seriously from the first day she was reported missing by her college friend(s);
2) The college & LE working together from the beginning;
3) Going along with the above, the college needed to have been more concerned with finding out what happened to this obviously missing student - instead of their own damn reputation;
4) Appropriate warrants being obtained (as quickly as possible) for the F.'s homes/backyards/vehicles so that a competent & thorough search/investigation could be done....including of course the authorization to dig up and/or break up/apart any areas that could have concealed a body - with no limits on where the search could take place, etc.
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I wish that Cheryl Anderson had never left him alone with her.
 
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Sonny Crockett said:
Anyone who still thinks that the F.'s are innocent in this case need to listen to the YOBY podcast in it's entirety. And, if someone still thinks they're innocent after listening to the entire podcast & hearing all of the information/research re: this case - then they have serious cognitive issues. It's extremely evident what happened here. The reason the case didn't go to trial until years after the crime was because no body has been found - which makes it more difficult to prosecute. However, even a 5-year old could put the pieces of this puzzle together without too much difficulty.

And - I am convinced that if the case were pursued aggressively, competently, and thoroughly by both the college & LE in the early days then it would have been solved at that time. By that I mean the following would have needed to happen:

1) KS's disappearance being taken seriously from the first day she was reported missing by her college friend(s);
2) The college & LE working together from the beginning;
3) Going along with the above, the college needed to have been more concerned with finding out what happened to this obviously missing student - instead of their own damn reputation;
4) Appropriate warrants being obtained (as quickly as possible) for the F.'s homes/backyards/vehicles so that a competent & thorough search/investigation could be done....including of course the authorization to dig up and/or break up/apart any areas that could have concealed a body - with no limits on where the search could take place, etc.
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Seems like both police departments bungled the case from the beginning and cut the Flores family a few breaks and didn't believe the Smart family. How can they think that she left for the he holiday weekend when her purse and money were sitting in her dorm room???
 
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LinasK said:
I wish that Cheryl Anderson had never left him alone with her.
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I do too but I’m sure she feels immeasurable guilt. She was young.
 
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LinasK said:
Seems like both police departments bungled the case from the beginning and cut the Flores family a few breaks and didn't believe the Smart family. How can they think that she left for the he holiday weekend when her purse and money were sitting in her dorm room???
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Lack of care, laziness and lack of professionalism and the bad culture some police departments get going where it’s ok to scoff at the public and their concerns.
When Charles Vallow tried to tell the police his wife was threatening his life you can see the derisive attitude of the police officers … When deputies got called because Charles Vallow got shot by Lori Vallow’s brother Alex, there was a lack of any follow up and complete acceptance of their story despite Lori’s giddy demeanor and Alex’s lack of emotion.
 
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LinasK said:
There was a witness who saw Paul, Ruben, Susan, and her boyfriend digging up the yard in the middle of the night. And Kristin's earring was on Susan's driveway. Isn't that enough probable cause?? I hope that the Smart's attorney revives the Civil suit against Ruben and Susan.
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Lost evidence in a murder case, still shocking after all this time.
 
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Friday, December 2nd:
*Motions Hearing (to continue sentencing date) (@ am PT) - CA - Kristin Denise Smart (19) (missing May 25, 1996 while walking back to her dorm from a off campus frat party at Cal Poly, reported missing on May 26, 1996, San Luis Obispo, still missing; legally declared dead on May 25, 2002) – only for *Paul Ruben Flores (19 @ time of crime/44/now 46) arrested (4/13/21), charged (4/14/21) & arraigned (10/20/21) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. No bond.
*Ruben Ricardo Flores (55 @ time of crime/80/now 81) arrested (4/13/21), charged (4/14/21) & arraigned (10/20/21) with accessory to murder after the fact. Plead not guilty. $250K bond. Bond was lower to $50K. Has posted bond (4/22/21), out of jail.
Trial began on 7/18/22 with opening statements for Paul in am & Ruben in pm (which was continued on 7/21/22). State rested their case on 9/20/22. Defense started presenting their case on 9/21/22 & rested their case on 9/27/22. Rebuttal on 9/29/22. Closing arguments begin on 10/3/22 for Paul’s jury & on 10/4/22 for Ruben’s jury.
Paul Jury: Total: ~27 hours. Found guilty of 1st degree murder. Sentencing hearing on 12/9/22.
Ruben Jury: Total: ~8 hours. Found not guilty of accessory after the fact.
Case, attorney on case, jury deliberations & court info from 5/17/21 thru 7/19/22 & Trial Day 1-40 (7/18 to 10/18/22, no court on 9/28), Closing argument Day 1-3 (10/3 to 10/5/22) & Jury deliberations thru 10/14/22 reference post #630 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ca-kristin-smart-san-luis-obispo-arrests-4.635475/page-32
10/18/22 Update: Paul Flores found guilty of 1st degree murder. Sentencing hearing on 12/9/22.
11/22/22 Update: Defense filed Notice of Motion & Motion to continue sentencing. Sanger wants a continuance because he is in the process of preparing a comprehensive motion for new trial & other post-verdict, pre-conviction motions & appears that there will not be enough time to file & serve the motions in time for the prosecution to respond or for the Court to consider them. Judge O'Keefe will hear Sanger's motion on 12/2/22 to determine whether the delay will be granted.
 
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Jan. 6, 2023
Editor’s note: This story contains descriptions of sexual assault.
The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office will not prosecute Paul Flores for crimes he is alleged to have committed in its county, including rape and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, the office told The Tribune in an email on Friday.
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Flores is scheduled to be sentenced March 10, but his legal team is planning to file a motion for a new trial before the sentencing. According to Ruben Flores’ arrest warrant, which was made public after the San Luis Obispo Tribune led an effort to fight unjust sealing of court records, “numerous homemade pornographic videos” depicting Flores “digitally penetrating, sodomizing and having sexual intercourse with unconscious females” were found on Flores’ computer when San Luis Obispo sheriff’s detectives carried out a search warrant in February 2020.

The warrant also said child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 was found on Flores’ computer, including “images of teenaged boys and girls performing sex acts with adults.”
 
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Thursday, February 9th:
*Status Hearing (@ 1:30pm PT) - CA - Kristin Denise Smart (19) (missing May 25, 1996 while walking back to her dorm from a off campus frat party at Cal Poly, reported missing on May 26, 1996, San Luis Obispo, still missing; legally declared dead on May 25, 2002) – *Paul Ruben Flores (19 @ time of crime/44/now 46) arrested (4/13/21), charged (4/14/21) & arraigned (10/20/21) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. No bond.
Trial began on 7/18/22 with opening statements for Paul in am & Ruben in pm (which was continued on 7/21/22). State rested their case on 9/20/22. Defense started presenting their case on 9/21/22 & rested their case on 9/27/22. Rebuttal on 9/29/22. Closing arguments begin on 10/3/22 for Paul’s jury & on 10/4/22 for Ruben’s jury. Paul Jury: Total: ~27 hours. Found guilty of 1st degree murder. Sentencing hearing on 3/10/23.
Case, attorney on case, jury deliberations & court info from 5/17/21 thru 7/19/22 & Trial Days 1-40 & closing & jury deliberations (7/18 to 10/14/22 reference post #671 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ca-kristin-smart-san-luis-obispo-arrests-4.635475/page-34
11/22/22 Update: Defense filed Notice of Motion & Motion to continue sentencing. Sanger wants a continuance because he is in the process of preparing a comprehensive motion for new trial & other post-verdict, pre-conviction motions & appears that there will not be enough time to file & serve the motions in time for the prosecution to respond or for the Court to consider them. Judge O'Keefe will hear Sanger's motion on 12/2/22 to determine whether the delay will be granted.
12/2/22 Update: Defense attorney Robert Sanger says that the court reporter has indicated that certified transcripts will take 60 days to finalize after payment has been received. Court reporter tells Judge O'Keefe she can have the entire trial finalized by 1/15/23, but transcripts of jury selection will take longer, which Sanger has also requested. Monterey County Superior Court Judge Jennifer O’Keefe set a status hearing for 2/9/23 @ 1:30pm & the sentencing will now take place on 3/10/23 @ 9am.
*Ruben Ricardo Flores (55 @ time of crime/80/now 81) - Found not guilty of accessory after the fact on 10/14/22.
 
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