GUILTY CA - Leila Fowler, 8, murdered, 12yo charged, Valley Springs, 27 Apr 2013 - #3

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  • #841
Right, Crystal is on phone with 911, the older daughter is on the phone with them and she's freaking out. It was Leila screaming and boy was in bathroom. I had read IF called the parents, not 911.

IF probably told them he could hear L screaming so he got out of the shower and then saw the intruder...?
 
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I want to know when the parents found out Leila had been hurt. Was it only after they arrived at the house expecting 2 scared but otherwise fine children? Why wasn't that the first thing IF said to them?

This is starting to look really bad for IF and I expect the family to take a beating in the community because they had to know how hinky the timing was and how little sense it all made.
 
  • #844
"The man is gone though?"

"They ran out...." (and then I couldn't understand what Crystal said after that)
 
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There was an article where a person from town named Fidel Taylor complained about the donations. I am not sure if this is allowed, so I will only mention it. I looked up his FB and he and his friends had some pretty interesting comments and opinions about the family.



Interesting...although reading his page, he seems to have an "opinion" about everything.
 
  • #847
"They said they're okay."

I am missing something.
I am missing something huge.
So I**** failed to mention Leila's 21 stab wounds when he called his parents?

I was ready for a horrible emotional Crystal trying to get a stabbed and bleeding Leila.
We were clearly told that they rushed home to get to Leila KNOWING she was injured.
If I**** was hiding in the bathroom he wouldn't have SEEN her injuries anyway!
I am missing something.

Yeah... Pretty much exactly this. I just listened and my jaw is on the floor. This raises SO many questions. Just.. Wow.
 
  • #848
I want to know when the parents found out Leila had been hurt. Was it only after they arrived at the house expecting 2 scared but otherwise fine children? Why wasn't that the first thing IF said to them?

This is starting to look really bad for IF and I expect the family to take a beating in the community because they had to know how hinky the timing was and how little sense it all made.

They probably went into complete denial, who wants to believe their child has murdered their other child? Sad all round.
 
  • #849
Was the Older sister there at the time also? Was IF "hiding in the bathroom" or chasing the "intruder" out?
 
  • #850
911: Did they see the man? Were they able to...

Crystal: They did see him, yes. My daughter is freaking out right now.

Sounds to me like she's referring to Leila, not the other daughter.

That's how it sounded to me as well.
 
  • #851
Throughout the 9-1-1 call... I am wondering WHERE the older DD and DD's boyfriend are???

Were they in the car with CW and dad?

were they at an undisclosed place... And IF called THEM first?

I, of course have many more questions.... But these are baffling me at the moment!

JMO
 
  • #852
Okay so was the daughter and the boyfriend in the car with them? Why wasn't Barney talking to IF instead? And if they weren't in the car, how did the boyfriend let Crystal know what IF was saying during the phone call?
 
  • #853
Was the Older sister there at the time also? Was IF "hiding in the bathroom" or chasing the "intruder" out?

I don't hear hiding in the bathroom. I just hear he was in the bathroom when he heard Leila screaming and came out to find an intruder.

Transcribed: "My older son was in the bathroom and my daughter started screaming and he came out"
 
  • #854
Transcribed "They said he ran out but they're really scared"
 
  • #855
We know that a 12 year old stabbed his precious, 8 year old sister do death when alone with her in the home.

How do we know he was alone and that he stabbed her? LE arrested him; might even charge him. But did LE say he did this? Or does LE say it is plausible he did this based on their evaluation of evidence at hand? You are contending that a conviction was rendered? And that LEs solution is a known fact?
 
  • #856
How do we know he was alone and that he stabbed her? LE arrested him; might even charge him. But did LE say he did this? Or does LE say it is plausible he did this based on their evaluation of evidence at hand? You are contending that a conviction was rendered? And that LEs solution is a known fact?

Since they arrested him for homicide it's safe to say LE said he did this.
 
  • #857
Transcribed "They said he ran out but they're really scared"

can you please post the entire call in one post?

Thanks so much, The Cheese!
 
  • #858
I wonder if the parents canceled their PC because they knew the 911 call was coming out?
 
  • #859
can you please post the entire call in one post?

Thanks so much, The Cheese!

Sorry, scorekeeper. I'm not up to transcribing the whole thing.
 
  • #860
Ok, my take is the older daughter & BF were standing there on the other phone talking with IF while Crystal was on the phone with 911.

The other 911 operator we hear in the background at the beginning of the call was while Crystal's 911 call was being transferred. No idea who may be calling from same street, but it was before CW was on the call with the other operator.

911: (Another voice says call is transferring)

911: Hi, 911. How can I help you?

CW: My children are at home alone and a man just ran out of MY house. My older son was in the bathroom and my daughter started screaming. When he came out there was a man inside the house. I need an officer there.

911: Where is your house? The man is gone though?

CW: They said he ran out but they are really scared.

911: Ok, How old are your kids?

CW: 12 and 9

911: So actually you had a break in.

CW: Yeah

911: Did they see the man?

CW: They did see him, yes. My daughter is freaking out right now. My daughter's BF is on the phone with them right now. They said thy are ok, but I need ....

911: We'll get someone out there and I'm going go ahead and call the house. Ok?

CW: To daughter's BF?? Get off the cops are going to call.

(Not exact transcript)
 
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