GUILTY CA - Lisa Naegle, 36, Torrance, 18 Dec 2016 *Arrest*

[DexterMorgan]

Her killer and more info here. Scary looking dude. Sources say he whacked her in the head 7x with a hammer. This will probably be charged second degree unless they can find evidence to prove it was planned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ridalplasty-contestant-Lisa-Marie-Naegle.html

Thanks for the picture. But he doesn't look scary here at least.

Plus he was a nurse student. So he obviously had some smarts to him.

But obviously he may have been violent towards previous partners. Jmo

 

[Whiteorchids]

Thanks for the picture. But he doesn't look scary here at least.

Plus he was a nurse student. So he obviously had some smarts to him.

But obviously he may have been violent towards previous partners. Jmo

He looks scary to me. He was definitely in the wrong field, nurses are about saving lives not taking them.

 

[DexterMorgan]

He looks scary to me. He was definitely in the wrong field, nurses are about saving lives not taking them.

Ted Bundy looked charming to others. But he didn't look scary until we knew his crimes.

Plus the sister thought this guy was gay. So she and others in the circle may have seen him as harmless as well.

Even if they knew that they were dating.

Now they only gave him up because they knew that she was there with him and left with him.

But they never said that she left with some scary looking dude. Jmo

 

[Tigerlily75]

I had never heard of that show bridalplasty...good thing it didn't last long! What a weird idea!

And I've never seen this site before... https://www.everipedia.com/jackie-jerome-rogers/ It was linked from the find Lisa facebook page.

This is the second case in the past week or two that I've read about the wife having an affair, and the husband not knowing until the person was deceased. I can't imagine the betrayal and without the ability to confront the person, or ask WHY, etc... just adds more anguish to a terrible tragedy, IMO! The other case was a member of websleuths's sister in law that died in a fire in CA.

My thoughts are with all those involved, the deceased's family, the deceased's husband and his family, coworkers, friends, and even the perp's family. So many families and lives changed because of the actions of one person! Why can't these murderers realize how many people their action affects? I guess it's simply they don't think and feel as normal people do.

:tantrum:

It would certainly complicate the grieving process, I really feel for families in this situation. We had a horrible case here of a very well to do family, a mother and two teenage children, completely frantic over their missing husband/father who disappeared after returning from a business trip. There was footage of him arriving from his flight at the airport, collecting his car and driving away. It was very public, the family on the news pleading for information etc. Eventually his car was found abandoned.

Turns out he was meeting strangers for sex on the Internet. He'd gone to a couples house on his way home from the airport - and apparently they were angry that he'd made out he'd be turning up as part of a couple but instead turned up by himself, some kind of argument ensued, and they ended up killing him and burning his body in a car.

So at the same time as finding out their beloved husband/father was dead, they find out he was living a very secret sordid double life that they had no idea about. All while the whole country was watching. So awful. I can't even imagine how you process that.

 

[rpgman]

crap...I kinda knew this was going to turn out like this....I was just hoping and praying it didn;t....once I heard about the so-called student/friend and the family interviewing him and saw the CCTV screen shots, I kinda knew this was coming....dam.

 

[Lynnieth]

I really feel for Lisa Marie, she did not deserve this outcome regardless of what she has or has not done.

Sending thoughts to her family, specially her husband - no one should go through this.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Her killer and more info here. Scary looking dude. Sources say he whacked her in the head 7x with a hammer. This will probably be charged second degree unless they can find evidence to prove it was planned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ridalplasty-contestant-Lisa-Marie-Naegle.html

I may be wrong but I think they will charge him with first degree murder.

If it is true and he hit her repeatedly (7 times) in the head with a hammer then to me the repeated blows shows premeditation and intent to kill Lisa Marie. Had he hit her only once and she died from that injury I could possibly see 2nd degree murder.

Imo, he had time to reflect after each blow and stop but he did not. Imo, his intent was to murder her so she couldn't ever return to be with her husband ever again.

I have seen many cases over the years where the Prosecutor proved premeditation based on the multiple blows or multiple gunshots to the victim/s along with other powerful circumstantial evidence.

IMOO, this is a first degree murder case but we shall see what degree they charge him with.

 

[Hap]

It is reported that the murder weapon was a hammer, and in his confession he said he did it because she was breaking up with him because she wanted to stay with her husband. I just lost the page I was reading, link in a sec

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WHY WHY WHY can't men just let someone go when the relationship is over? So sad.

*not talking all men, of course...

 

[JerseyGirl]

So sad, all around.

:rose: RIP Lisa :rose:

 

[monkeypants]

She told him it was a friend she was going to the birthday party with.
He also thought she was maybe using uber but I'm not sure that he knows exactly how uber works because he thought she was using the same driver over and over when in reality it was the boyfriend picking her up

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Well, technically she lied and said her brother was who she was going with. And don't forget she had been telling her sister the student was gay to cover her tracks as well.

 

[monkeypants]

I'm still confused about the jack in the box hammer reference...did he kill her in his truck or did she go home with him and break up with him there?

 

[Ibiz]

Thanks for the picture. But he doesn't look scary here at least.

Plus he was a nurse student. So he obviously had some smarts to him.

But obviously he may have been violent towards previous partners. Jmo

Agree, she would not have been having an affair with him if he was real scary..

 

[cluciano63]

Agree, she would not have been having an affair with him if he was real scary..

Plenty of women have died or been injured by partners or spouses many of us would consider "scary"...jmo

 

[Gardenista]

If it's true, I'm wondering if her husband knew about the affair. I kind of got a combo fed-up/freaked out combo from his interviews before she was found.

 

[Gardenista]

Statements from the family brought tears to my eyes
I hate the who did this to her.

“Lisa’s an angel. Her wings were so large, her heart was so loving," her sister, Michelle Naegle, told KTLA. "She wasn’t meant to be on this earth that long, she was meant to be with the heavenly father.”

Michelle, one of the victim's four siblings, described her sister as an outgoing, caring person who always put others first.

“Every good dream I ever will have or my children will ever have is because of her. Because her heart was gold,” she said.

http://ktla.com/2016/12/20/person-o...-bridal-reality-tv-show-contestant-lapd-says/

 

[Gardenista]

I'm still confused about the jack in the box hammer reference...did he kill her in his truck or did she go home with him and break up with him there?

One of the articles said there was murder evidence in his truck, plus he lived at home with his family, so I think it happened in the truck.

 

[steelman]

Whatever he said happened--------------believe the opposite of that. He's already trying to justify his actions. He's already blaming the victim by claiming she used him and made him jealous.

BTW---She was found naked in a shallow grave. Doesn't sound like a drunken lovers spat to me, sounds more like a pervert that couldn't control himself around a drunk woman he had a thing for.

If they find a date rape drug in her system, don't be surprised.

 

[Gardenista]

Police answered some questions here:

[video=youtube;tvadFKs3dkU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvadFKs3dkU[/video]

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Whatever he said happened--------------believe the opposite of that. He's already trying to justify his actions. He's already blaming the victim by claiming she used him and made him jealous.

BTW---She was found naked in a shallow grave. Doesn't sound like a drunken lovers spat to me, sounds more like a pervert that couldn't control himself around a drunk woman he had a thing for.

If they find a date rape drug in her system, don't be surprised.

ITA with you but then I do in most cases.

Something is odd about him killing her in his truck if they were supposed to be lovers. If he was so upset and really cared about her supposedly leaving him why would he discard her naked body in such a demeaning way for LE to see when they found Lisa? Even positioning her facedown in the shallow grave shows anger, rejection, and resentment to me. He could easily be covering up in case they find his semen.... with him pretending he didn't forcefully rape her. If she really was going to break it off with him I highly doubt she was in the mood for sex when telling him so. With her body being found naked I do believe he sexually assaulted her for there is no other logical reason to discard the body naked.

Like I said earlier, I really hate it when disparaging things are said by ANY suspects against their silenced victims when they have more motives to lie than anyone. He could be trying to set this up as a crime of passion case by interjecting the 'affair' into it.

If she really was under the impression he was gay then she would trust him to not make a hit on her when they went out together. It will be interesting what his friends have to say about him and if he ever mentioned having an affair with Lisa.

It will be so tragic beyond what it already is if Lisa did really trust him and felt she was safe around him.

The police will want irrefutable evidence this affair actually existed rather being in his perverted mind instead.

Yes, the toxicology report will be most interesting to see if she had any type of date rape drug in her system at the time. Her husband seemed a little taken aback that Lisa sounded so intoxicated so I don't think that is normal for her. JMO. It seems to me if they really were having an affair they would have left the restaurant/bar and gone to a motel or hotel and if it was a crime of passion it would have happened there and not in his truck. IMO

 

[JerseyGirl]

just hours before he allegedly killed her
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...murderer-Jackie-Rogers-just-hours-killed.html