CA CA - Lisa Rene Sprague, 17, Ventura, 1 Sept 1978

  • #21
@Caring1 Does Lisa have any exclusions? Thank you!
 
  • #22
  • #23
View attachment 279807 View attachment 279805 I found another image of the same young woman from the Alcala series and wanted to compare with Lisa. This was from a larger collection, link below.


Prosecutor worries Alcala might have killed others – Orange County Register
Here is another photo of the same woman. This woman looks 25 - 40 to me. I don't think this is Lisa Sprague who was likely 17.
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  • #24
In that last image, the woman also looks upset.

I think it is often difficult to date images from that era. When I look back at the hair, clothes and make up I personally feel a lot of things we wore at the time and thought were cute or trendy were aging.

I'm not saying there is a strong case for it being Lisa, only I feel the age range could be anywhere from late teens to 30s. JMO though.
 
  • #25
If we compare the image you just shared with one from page one, see what I mean?
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  • #26
If we compare the image you just shared with one from page one, see what I mean? View attachment 394121
I do think it is still possible as it's quite hard to pinpoint an age just from a photo. While the heart necklace isn't a match (chain connects on the sides in the Alcala photo and Lisa's is on the top) Lisa and this woman do share a likeness for similar fashion. Because of this, I'd say this photo is mid to late 70s - early 80s. It could be Lisa.
 
  • #27
Bumping, today is Lisa’s birthday.
 
  • #28
Here is yet another match. Eklutna Annie was found wearing a similar heart pendant to Lisa's. Not the exact same heart pendant but seems very similar. Could it be a match? Apparently investigators believe she was picked up from California. I was considering Eklutna Annie as another MP but I realised the heart pendant. Very similar faces. Height is off but with Annie's remains being "partial" and Lisa Sprague having so little info I don't know if it's worth excluding her on this.
Digital image created from study of morgue photographs to depict an estimation of the victim in life
Original

Eklutna Annie UP10217Lisa Rene Sprague MP61421
SexFemaleFemale
RaceWhite/CaucasianWhite/Caucasian
Age16 - 2517
DLC/DOD1979 - 1980Fall 1978
Height5'11 - 5'35'10
WeightUnknown130 - 155 pounds
Hair ColorLong, light brown with red tint.Blond/Brown hair.
Eye ColorUnknownBrown.
CircumstancesPossibly picked up from CaliforniaLast seen in Ventura, California.
DistanceValencia-Eklutna3,335 miles (58hr)
After reviewing, height seems to be the only thing really off with this match. Should we exclude her on just this?
 
  • #29
Here is yet another match. Eklutna Annie was found wearing a similar heart pendant to Lisa's. Not the exact same heart pendant but seems very similar. Could it be a match? Apparently investigators believe she was picked up from California. I was considering Eklutna Annie as another MP but I realised the heart pendant. Very similar faces. Height is off but with Annie's remains being "partial" and Lisa Sprague having so little info I don't know if it's worth excluding her on this.
Digital image created from study of morgue photographs to depict an estimation of the victim in life
Original

Eklutna Annie UP10217Lisa Rene Sprague MP61421
SexFemaleFemale
RaceWhite/CaucasianWhite/Caucasian
Age16 - 2517
DLC/DOD1979 - 1980Fall 1978
Height5'11 - 5'35'10
WeightUnknown130 - 155 pounds
Hair ColorLong, light brown with red tint.Blond/Brown hair.
Eye ColorUnknownBrown.
CircumstancesPossibly picked up from CaliforniaLast seen in Ventura, California.
DistanceValencia-Eklutna3,335 miles (58hr)
After reviewing, height seems to be the only thing really off with this match. Should we exclude her on just this?
Eklutna Annie's Thread:

 
  • #30
Lisa has been missing for about 45 years this month.
 
  • #31
Here is yet another match. Eklutna Annie was found wearing a similar heart pendant to Lisa's. Not the exact same heart pendant but seems very similar. Could it be a match? Apparently investigators believe she was picked up from California. I was considering Eklutna Annie as another MP but I realised the heart pendant. Very similar faces. Height is off but with Annie's remains being "partial" and Lisa Sprague having so little info I don't know if it's worth excluding her on this.
Digital image created from study of morgue photographs to depict an estimation of the victim in life
Original

Eklutna Annie UP10217Lisa Rene Sprague MP61421
SexFemaleFemale
RaceWhite/CaucasianWhite/Caucasian
Age16 - 2517
DLC/DOD1979 - 1980Fall 1978
Height5'11 - 5'35'10
WeightUnknown130 - 155 pounds
Hair ColorLong, light brown with red tint.Blond/Brown hair.
Eye ColorUnknownBrown.
CircumstancesPossibly picked up from CaliforniaLast seen in Ventura, California.
DistanceValencia-Eklutna3,335 miles (58hr)
After reviewing, height seems to be the only thing really off with this match. Should we exclude her on just this?
Did you ever submit this?
 
  • #32
Today is Lisa’s birthday.
 
  • #33
Did you ever submit this?
Sorry for the late reply, but yes, I did. No rule-out has been made.

Both Lisa and Valencia Jane Doe's profiles were modified on January 29, but I can't see any notable changes. Neither are ruled-out against the other either. I hope the modifications are related.
 
  • #34
Just wanted to note that any photos Alcala took would have been prior to his incarceration in 1979 for the murder of Robin Samsoe. This thread popped up in alerts and I realized I did not include it with the photo comps for Lisa and the woman also wearing the similar jewelry last year. In September 0f 1978, that is roughly the time he was a contestant on "The Dating Game." Thread here for more info: TIMELINE - Where was Alcala and when?
 
  • #35
Lisa has been missing for about 46 years this month.
 
  • #36
Hi guys ! I’m coming to this thread from an unidentified doe thread.

(Jane Miami Doe 1979)
(NCIC# U154194129 , NamUs# 7514)

Somebody had compared Lisa to Miami Doe so I’m passing it along as a consideration. I tried my best to colorize Lisa’s photo to help!
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  • #37
Today is Lisa’s birthday.
 
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  • #39
Lisa has been missing for 47 years this month.
 

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