CA CA - Los Angeles, CA White Female 40-45 UP4149 Hit by car Oct 86

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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Recognizable face, no photo

ase Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case Number8613590
Demographics
SexFemale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult
Estimated Age Range (Years)40-45
Estimated Year of Death1986
Estimated PMI--
Height5' 5"(65 inches) , Measured
Weight178 lbs, Measured
Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date FoundOctober 15, 1986
NamUs Case CreatedSeptember 10, 2008
ME/C QA Reviewed--
Location Found Map
Street AddressImperial Hwy @ La CienegaLos Angeles, California
CountyLos Angeles County
GPS Coordinates--
Circumstances of RecoveryOn 10/15/1986 @ 0215 hours the decedent was found unresponsive lying on the street, an apparent victim of an auto vs. pedestrian hit and run. A local resident had seen the decedent wandering in this area @ 0030 hours.
Details of Recovery


Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsRecognizable face
Physical Description
Hair ColorBlack
Head Hair DescriptionBlack
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorBrown
Right Eye ColorBrown
Eye DescriptionBrown
Distinctive Physical Features
Item
Description
Scar/mark
stretch marks on abdomen


Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Clothing
Green skirt, gray sweatpants, pink slip, white bra, blue sweater
On the Body

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  • #2
Bumping case up. Still in NamUs. I'm searching for a different case out of L.A. County, and it seems like they must have been overwhelmed, because this is the second one in a row that says, "Recognizable face" yet has no photo or reconstruction shown in NamUs. Maybe the photos are being hidden from the public, but why no attempt at a drawing?
 
  • #3
2 Exclusions
MP974 Patricia Schmidt 06/04/1985 Henrico VA
MP8174 Carmen Hetrick 06/02/1984 El Paso CO
 
  • #4
Bumping up case. I propose the estimated age range is too narrow to definitely be accurate.

Could she be:
Sandra V.
Missing from Iowa, Sept. 1986
42 y.o., 5'7", 200lbs
Black hair, brown eyes, scar on abdomen

Or
Susan W.
Missing from California, Sept 1986
32 y.o., 5'7", 160 lbs, brown hair, hazel eyes

Or
Peggy W.
Missing from Washington state, October 12, 1986
32 y.o., 5'6", 150 lbs
Brown hair, brown eyes, scar on abdomen
 
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Bumping case up. Still in NamUs. I'm searching for a different case out of L.A. County, and it seems like they must have been overwhelmed, because this is the second one in a row that says, "Recognizable face" yet has no photo or reconstruction shown in NamUs. Maybe the photos are being hidden from the public, but why no attempt at a drawing?

They are chronically overwhelmed, but also, California has very strict laws about when and how post-mortem photos and drawings can be used.
 
  • #7
They are chronically overwhelmed, but also, California has very strict laws about when and how post-mortem photos and drawings can be used.

Thanks. That is interesting to know, especially regarding a drawing. (I actually think PM photos should not be posted publicly, but reconstructions/drawings should be made instead.)
 
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Thanks. That is interesting to know, especially regarding a drawing. (I actually think PM photos should not be posted publicly, but reconstructions/drawings should be made instead.)
Yeah, I think drawings are allowable, but with too many cases and not enough money, they don't have enough resources to get a good drawing or reconstruction of everybody.
 
  • #9
Bumping case up. Are there any exclusions in NamUs (1st post link) for this poor lady?
 
  • #10
Bumping case up. Are there any exclusions in NamUs (1st post link) for this poor lady?
Interesting that both exclusions have a similar general look. This may be a slight clue of her appearance at the time she was found.

2 Missing Person Exclusions
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