Identified! CA - Los Angeles, Male body in LAX restroom, Sep'10 - Dominico Nguyen

  • #21
Not saying that it would be impossible, but WHY bind your hands? If you can tie a bag around your neck after, you can open the bag to breathe also.

I wonder where his other suicide attempt was and what he told psychiatrists/psychologists while he was in the hospital?
 
  • #22
Very sad. I just can't figure out why at an airport, but alas, with mental illnesses logic doesn't always work =( Hopefully he is finally at peace.
 
  • #23
Let's say this is exactly what it would seem. Someone with mental health issues who has already recently attempted suicide once who decides to give it another go.

Why then choose to commit suicide in the public bathroom of a very busy, heavily travelled international airport? Would that not increase your odds of being discovered, interupted, and ultimately your attempt to kill yourself thwarted?

Do any of the reports offer any explaination for the airport being selected as the suicide site? Do any of the reports say how the man arrived at the airport? DId he leave a car behind in the parking lot? Was he dropped off? Bus? Magic carpet ride?

I just watched a documentary about suicides off the Golden Gate Bridge (there is a thread for it in the Jury Room, and a link to the film to watch for free). IIRC, there was some talk after the film with the interview of the director and he made some statements that stuck with me. The GG bridge is very public too. He said something to the effect that some people commit suicide in a public place because they want someone to try to stop them. JMHO that it might be a possibility this man chose this area.

Not saying that it would be impossible, but WHY bind your hands? If you can tie a bag around your neck after, you can open the bag to breathe also.

I wonder where his other suicide attempt was and what he told psychiatrists/psychologists while he was in the hospital?

The only reason that I could think of for him binding his hands would be that he was fearful that he would try to take the bag off at the last minute. KWIM?

Perhaps, he did want to die and wanted to go through with it, but he chose a public place because deep down he wanted someone to try to stop him. KWIM? Depression (Suicides as a result) is such a complex disease. JMHO.
 
  • #24
Our family has survived somewhere around 30 suicide attempts connected with the rape of the children and a death of a grandchild/deep depression. What I have learned is that most people who attempt suicide and are NOT successful AND who keep trying will succeed at some point. It's kind of like "death by default". They are playing with it, often trying different methods.

We've had the same young man try hanging, cutting, overdose by insulin (an entire vial while in police custody), cutting a central line--once at home and once in the hospital, running into traffic, and suffocation. He's never been successful and doctors have helped us see that he's crying out from his pain and seeking the attention he needs at that moment. All of his attempts were in places he would likely be stopped or thwarted. It has been pointed out that if he truly wanted to be successful, he could be, quite easily. We've also been cautioned to take each and every attempt very seriously as people can misgauge things and truly die when they are merely seeking help. We've had more than a few close calls with him that left us reeling....the what ifs?

I wonder if this was another attempt in a series of attempts for this man. If so, maybe he was secretly hoping that he would be discovered in time. Wouldn't his body have fallen to the floor when he lost consciousness? Others would have pushed in the door to help. Maybe that's what his misguided plan was and he somehow misjudged.

Other attempts we've dealt with were actually far more possibly lethal. We had a teen, who was not a victim, take a massive overdose of Tylenol. I was running through the house, late for an appt, and called her out of her room to correct her (using my sewing scissors for cutting paper, yet again), when I noticed her slurring her words. Within seconds, I realized that we had a horrible crisis on our hands. Luckily we lived only two blocks from the hospital and my husband just scooped her up and ran with her to the car. Within less than a minute, she was in the ER and spent four days in the ICU with liver damage. That one was close. Had I not noticed my scissors on the table next to the origami paper, we might have lost her. I can hardly think about.

Another was when a despondent and grieving young father attempted an overdose to join his recently passed newborn daughter. Had he not responded oddly to the text of a friend, who immediately alerted us, we would have never known. We called 911 and met the EMTs at his house. He had thoroughly researched the amount of meds necessary and he'd followed through. He had also added in alcohol. He was held for 7 days for observation and he was clear that his intent was to die. He was very nearly successful.

I've learned that suicidal ideations and attempts can take many forms. Families and friends need to pay close attention and seek help each and every time there's a danger. Someone who is suicidal or homicidal jumps to the front of the line in triage.

For me, there's still a lot of questions about this poor man. Why at LAX? Was he traveling or was he local? Was his intent to truly die? If so, why in a public place with a high possibility of being discovered? If it was a suicidal "outcry", what went wrong?

I guess this really reinforces what we've been taught. Any attempt can be successful.
 
  • #25
I would think the bag would not suffocate unless being held tightly or being secured tightly with a knot or something. If it were secured then I would think binding ones own hands would be dificult as you struggle against the bag for breath. How long would it take to successfully bind your own hands? By then wouldn't you be feeling the effects of the bag?

What if (and keep in mind, you're determined to kill yourself) you tied the bag around your neck, securing it with rope, or something, and held your breath while doing that, so as not to naturally "fight" the bag, so to speak.

Now, how you tie your hands behind your back is another matter, but it can probably be done, with a certain kind of knot. If suicide, this was one determined individual. Very sad.

Kind of reminds me of the census worker who committed suicide by hanging, although I can't recall if his hands were bound, or not.
 
  • #26
I'm thinking he bound his own hands so he couldn't take the bag off. MOO
 
  • #27
Thanks and that does explain why LE believes it was suicide but I'm still confused why he'd choose one of the mens' restrooms at LAX. Even if it were at night I would assume there would be some traffic in and out of there, including the janitorial staff who found him in the morning. :waitasec:
 
  • #28
Kind of reminds me of the census worker who committed suicide by hanging, although I can't recall if his hands were bound, or not.

oh_gal, do you really think that was a case of suicide? I don't. :mad:

I know that was the official determination, but the whole situation reeked to high heaven of backwoods vigilantes with a lethal case of mistrust for the "gubment". And yes - he was bound, gagged, and had "FED" scrawled across his chest.

Bill Sparkman was murdered, sure as I sit here typing this.
 
  • #29

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