Found Deceased CA - Madyson Middleton, 8, Santa Cruz, 26 July 2015 - #1 *Arrest*

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  • #221
Me too. There's tons of public parking lots and street parking directly across the street from the Boardwalk/beach. And it's not far to get on a freeway either...

OH MY...your post just reminded me of a long buried memory...wow

I was standing around and waiting in a parking lot right across from the Boardwalk when I was 13. My 2 friends and I were waiting for one of the parents to pick us up on a Sunday afternoon. And an older man in a convertible drove up slowly, and was playing with himself [UGH] and looking at us...we screamed and ran away LAUGHING because we were so shocked....ick

I never told my parents of course because Santa Cruz was our local beach and I didn't want to be kept away for there.
 
  • #222
Another possibility with the scooter not being found is that she got separated from it for whatever reason (fell in water, taken, walked away, etc.) and then some other kid(s) happened to find it and took it. Those kids may not have any idea the girl who owns it is missing. Or they do know and are hiding it because they don't want to get into trouble for stealing the scooter. I don't know. Grasping straws. I hope that Maddy is OK.
 
  • #223
Another possibility with the scooter not being found is that she got separated from it for whatever reason (fell in water, taken, walked away, etc.) and then some other kid(s) happened to find it and took it. Those kids may not have any idea the girl who owns it is missing. Or they do know and are hiding it because they don't want to get into trouble for stealing the scooter. I don't know. Grasping straws. I hope that Maddy is OK.

yep, I wondered about that too--if someone found it and took it. I really hope if that happened that a kid would tell someone so we can figure out where she was when she got separated from her scooter. :candle:
 
  • #224
Those 3 names in my WS signature... that's why I am a helicopter parent, why I give limited freedom to my children, because those 3 names were my very close friends. And I do not want to see my children endure that nor lose friends in such a horrid evil way.....praying for lil madyson

My heart breaks for you.

And also, I keep a close eye on my child. Always have.

It takes one sick SOB, one preoccupied moment on my part, and *poof*, my baby is the victim of a predator.

Tell me all you want how safe kids are these days. I will not take that chance with the ONE person in this world for whom I am totally responsible.

I get a little tired of the "helicopter" tag, but I will gladly take that tag over "mother of victim".
 
  • #225
I'm so scared for this girl. 8 years old, not at home.... only thing that comes to mind is stranger abduction.... oh man :(
 
  • #226
:goodpost:

I can't even wrap my head around how people let their kids be all alone without losing their minds in worry. I just think about kids like Jessica Ridgeway, Sandra Cantu, Jenise Wright...why take that chance??

I was raised as a free range kid. When I had kids we moved to a small town, off the beaten path with no major interstate within 12 miles. I intended to have more free kids by making these choices. I think you just have to be aware and make smart decisions. But bad things can happen in any situation. Car accident, etc. We cannot control everything and everybody.
 
  • #227
Mom says Maddy knows to stay around the front of the complex yet Maddy's scent was picked up all the way to the beach. That gives me hope that she wasn't stuffed into a car and drives away but I do wonder why she went to the beach.


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  • #228
Those 3 names in my WS signature... that's why I am a helicopter parent, why I give limited freedom to my children, because those 3 names were my very close friends. And I do not want to see my children endure that nor lose friends in such a horrid evil way.....praying for lil madyson

I'm so sorry you've had to go through such tragedy. It certainly changes your perspective, and I can't imagine personally knowing a victim. :(

A little girl named Ashley Estell was murdered when I was a child. I just so happened to be at the very soccer complex, playing at the very playground the moment she went missing. I remember my dad and all the other adults helping search for her there. I will never forget how scary it was, and how my parents started parenting differently from that day. Just a couple years later, Amber Hagerman was abducted and murdered. Then there was Opal Jennings. Growing up, I always knew how I would and would not parent...simply because of such tragedies.
 
  • #229
I was raised as a free range kid. When I had kids we moved to a small town, off the beaten path with no major interstate within 12 miles. I intended to have more free kids by making these choices. I think you just have to be aware and make smart decisions. But bad things can happen in any situation. Car accident, etc. We cannot control everything and everybody.

JMO, but I think that by knowing where your children are and with whom they are associating, you eliminate a huge chance of them meeting a bad end.


Dean Corll managed to kill almost 30 boys in Houston because they came from homes where parents didn't think to wonder where their boys had gone off to, and the police just called them runaways.

Until their bodies were unearthed, en masse, a few years later.

If parents had questioned where their sons were (and most of them KNEW their kids hung out with Corll), perhaps the death count would not have reached 30. And most criminologists believe the real count is much higher. But those children's parents never reported their children missing.

Oh, and the Houston Mass Murders occured in the early 70's.

Parental negligence is dangerous, whether it happened 50 years ago, or this week.

Please, parents; know who your children are, where they are, and who their friends are.

Better to annoy your kid than to bury him. Or wait for the police to uncover mass graves of murdered children.
 
  • #230
Could she have snuck down by the beach to watch the event happening that day?
Sounds like there was alot of people milling around.

spelling on snuck???
 
  • #231
Could she have snuck down by the beach to watch the event happening that day?
Sounds like there was alot of people milling around.

spelling on snuck???

Lol, and I question what "sounds right" all of the time. But I think the correct tense is "sneaked".
 
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  • #233
I'm so sorry you've had to go through such tragedy. It certainly changes your perspective, and I can't imagine personally knowing a victim. :(

A little girl named Ashley Estell was murdered when I was a child. I just so happened to be at the very soccer complex, playing at the very playground the moment she went missing. I remember my dad and all the other adults helping search for her there. I will never forget how scary it was, and how my parents started parenting differently from that day. Just a couple years later, Amber Hagerman was abducted and murdered. Then there was Opal Jennings. Growing up, I always knew how I would and would not parent...simply because of such tragedies.

I know that feeling all too well! I grew up close to the shopping mall Adam Walsh went missing in Hollywood, Florida. He was a couple of years older than me at the time. Parents were really shaken up, and started enforcing stricter rules. That eerie feeling never left me!
 
  • #234
Please keep this thread on track. It would be terrible to get it shut down and We have already been warned.


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  • #235
If she was abducted or lured perhaps her abductor had touched the scooter, or left other DNA on it. He may have realized this, and just taken the scooter too, rather than spend time tying to wipe it clean . If so this might mean his prints are in a database somewhere. jmo I know the FBI will check the RSO's in the area.

I get a strong feeling that MM was taken out of the immediate area in a vehicle. jmo

I'm thinking she's right in the complex somewhere. I think someone she knew or at least recognized lured her into a space in one of those buildings. Just a hunch, not based on anything reported.

But, then again, the dogs tracked her to the beach.

JMO.
 
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Please keep this thread on track. It would be terrible to get it shut down and We have already been warned.


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You are right. I apologize. Some posts touched a nerve and I derailed.

Please, mods, accept my apology. I honestly did not mean to take things OT.
 
  • #238
I'm thinking she's right in the complex somewhere. I think someone she knew or at least recognized lured her into a space in one of those buildings. Just a hunch, not based on anything reported.

But, then again, the dogs tracked her to the beach.

JMO.

Probably she was at the beach. I have a strong hunch she was abducted,but jmo
 
  • #239
Normally, we usually end up finding the kids out and about or on skates and scooters have gone to see 'friends' and met the wrong people. Like little Jorelys and like Jenise Wright. But the video and the scent trail seems to indicate that she made it to the beach. Very worrisome. I am very worried that someone snatched her up in the parking lot, maybe?
 
  • #240
This thread is not about your opinion. It is about an Amber Alert for a missing child.

I will not hesitate to come down hard if anyone turns this thread into a discussion about anything other than Madyson Middleton

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