Found Deceased CA - Madyson Middleton, 8, Santa Cruz, 26 July 2015 - #1 *Arrest*

[Inthedetails]

http://kron4.com/watch-kron-4-newscasts/

Arrested for the murder of Maddy

Located evidence

Lured to suspect's apt willingly

Murdered in his apt

& carried her downstairs to recycle bin

Acted alone

No risk to community

I am surprised to hear she was in his apartment, and that makes me even more sad for his parents who live in the space where a crime was committed, as well as for the neighbors who I'm sure feel utterly shocked this happened in their community. I'm wondering about his timeline - when he take her to the dumpster? Before the search efforts? During? Afterwards?

 

[Paulas88]

Apparently this 15 year old was part of a search party looking for Matyson . Gross

 

[epiphany]

DA:

ongoing investigation & we will determine what charges to file after review

law allows determination to charge as adult or juvie

on info at this point, there appear to b charges that he can be charged as adult


Chief of Police:

he was alone in apt (w/Maddy)

he was acquaintance of Maddy's

juvie>not releasing his name

she willingly accompanied him upstairs

confessed? > not gonna talk about details

sexually assaulted? > we r awaiting forensic results

my belief she was killed b4 we even got t phone call Sun nite (killed prior to 6:08 AM call)

went on her own volition...she had a reasonable amount of trust in him

do not know to what degree they were friends, but she trusted him enough

almost immediately took him in bc suspect was there (near bin) when body was discovered

 

[blue22]

From the presser:

She willingly went to apartment, don't believe she was taken against her will

They were acquaintances, don't know to what degree

Doesn't know if there is history of mental illness

Were looking at this as a rescue operation, as time passed it became a recovery situation. A secondary, more thorough search found her body

He doesn't know if that apartment was searched

His belief she was killed before they got the phone call Sunday night and put in the recycle bin shortly after

When we found Maddy, suspect at bin...that's when they took into custody. They believe he was watching the search

He was contacted by FBI and LE on the tannery art campus

Apartment where suspect lives is upstairs from where her body was found


(To add: My apologies, if this is redundant and others are posting the same presser info)

 

[kimi_SFC]

I am in :tears: all over again!

At four feet tall and a mere 50 pounds, Little Maddy was no match for a 15 year old teenaged perp.
:no:

Image link:
http://wp.me/p5hgGs-QYk via @kron4news


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[Madeleine74]

And yet his neighbors describe him as kind and nice and good with a yo-yo. I think he was an opportunist. He saw a little girl left unattended and went for her.

I can't count the number of times some neighbor has said, "well he was a very nice guy" when media came a calling after the person was arrested for some heinous crime.

 

[~greeneyedgirl~]

Rest in paradise sweet beautiful Madyson....


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[blue22]

-Her body was in there in such a way, that you would not see her body just lifting the lid and looking in

-won't give details, but she was not readily visible

-have evidence that ties suspect to maddy, will not release what evidence was

 

[Inthedetails]

-Her body was in there in such a way, that you would not see her body just lifting the lid and looking in

-won't give details, but she was not readily visible

-have evidence that ties suspect to maddy, will not release what evidence was

Speculating - and hoping - the evidence linking the perp to Maddy is DNA. An article mentioned that part of the investigation including asking community members for DNA samples. I wonder if he was asked and if he complied? (I'm remembering Jenice's case and GG's reaction to being asked for a swab.)

Evidence could also include the scooter perhaps.

Yes, just speculating.

 

[corundogs]

Finally catching up after a long night...listening to the questions from the presser.

Chief says he was arrested right at the recycle bin. Thinks he was probably watching them search.

That he was questioned by both SCPD and FBI - not sure if on Sunday night or Monday. But definitely before being arrested. Very curious as to what he said in that first questioning, when he was just a neighborhood kid.

So very very very tragic.

I know people say kids are in no more danger than they were "back in the day". Did teenagers really kill little kids back then? Wait...what am I saying?? In 1984, my freshman year...a classmate killed another classmate. He got away with it for over 25 years!!!! Ironically, he was finally arrested after living on the streets in Santa Cruz!!! FBI did some DNA testing years later, and got a hit in the early 2000's. When he was arrested in Santa Cruz, he was finally sent back to Alameda County where he stood trial and was convicted.

So I guess kids have been killing kids. No one knows why the above murderer killed our classmate either.

I hope The Tannery finds a way to heal. This seems like a great community and important place for Santa Cruz. There is lots of work to do to clean up Santa Cruz. A place where I grew up. We were able to go there for the day, as soon as we got our licenses. Without adult supervision. I doubt our parents would let us do the same today.

 

[bestill]

I am surprised to hear she was in his apartment, and that makes me even more sad for his parents who live in the space where a crime was committed, as well as for the neighbors who I'm sure feel utterly shocked this happened in their community. I'm wondering about his timeline - when he take her to the dumpster? Before the search efforts? During? Afterwards?

I am wondering about the timeline too. I know someone posted earlier that there may be dumpster shoots on each floor of the apartments, that makes it possible for him to have kept her in his room until his unsuspecting family slept and he dropped her down the shoot. Do we know if she was in a bag? I'm sure the apartment is teeming with evidence, no way he could have cleaned up everything without being noticed.

 

[Steleheart]

There is so much more to be done in this investigation, autopsy, background, tried as an adult, Etc. There was a level of trust. We don't know his mental condition. We don't know her family situation. Poor Noah Thomas was allowed to play at neighbors houses for entire days before he was found dead in a septic tank. We just never know.

When I was a kid, if I got spanked by a friend's Mom I got it worse when I got home. Everyone knew where everyone was and there was no internet, LOL

MOO

 

[~greeneyedgirl~]

15 year old boy "great" friends with an 8 yr. old girl? How can people be so clueless??? Artsy community.....right....or, self absorbed

Yes Amster I believe they were friends as this was a community where all were involved together and created for the greater good. Or at least tried too.

While I'm sure they didn't hang out and play as in how little girls play but I'm sure he helped watch the younger ones playing, minding them or keeping an eye as most members of a community do. I read that he helped in environmental clean ups or the such so I'm sure the younger ones looked up to the teens in this complex. There is no one to blame for this but the young man who committed this horrific act. Two families are forever changed and this beautiful community will never be the same.


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[justwannahelp]

Does anyone know if her parents were at the apartment when her body was discovered? I'm just imagining how awful that situation could have been? Like at first I'm thinking I'd run to the dumpster to see my baby, but then I'm thinking I couldn't handle it. Dear Lord, what does a mother do in a situation such as this? A day earlier your freckled face baby is riding her scooter. The next, she's found in a dumpster where you live. So so so horrible and sad.

I let my 7 year old ride her scooter in front of our house, the neighbor's house, and the next neighbor's house. She did this almost everyday in the Spring after school when the weather was nice. I don't know if I'll be able to let her any longer. The sidewalks in our neighborhood are 15 feet INTO our front yards (older neighborhood) so I feel like she's safe from cars and it's a great safe neighborhood. But really, you hear stuff like this and it terrifies you. It's so sad! If children can't play in their own yards, where can they play? I don't want to be that mom doesn't allow independent play. I think it's important for a child's development, but geez if they get killed they can't develop, can they!?

When we chose our neighborhood, I checked the watchdog site for registered sex offenders, and there are none in the neighborhood, so that made me feel more secure as she rode her scooter. But now I don't know what I'll do.

My motherinlaw is buying tracking necklaces for all the grandchildren, but I'm not sure a tracking necklace would have helped in this situation since it played out so quickly. But maybe??

Sorry for the rant, but with 4 kids (12,13, 7, and 3.5) there's a lot to speculate on with this tragedy. The teenager predator aspect and the young schoolgirl riding her scooter aspect.

 

[sallye818]

I'm sorry. However kids are accessing this stuff and it's important we know and that we act. I don't want to upset anyone, that's not my intention, but academics are seriously worried about how and the misogynistic culture we live in is affecting what people are perceiving as normal.

My dad (who would have been 92 this year) used to say this before he died. He said that the culture and media (and this was before Internet) was making boys and men (and sometimes women) have insatiable, depraved "appetites" and children would often be the ones to suffer for this.

 

[LinasK]

Finally catching up after a long night...listening to the questions from the presser.

Chief says he was arrested right at the recycle bin. Thinks he was probably watching them search.

That he was questioned by both SCPD and FBI - not sure if on Sunday night or Monday. But definitely before being arrested. Very curious as to what he said in that first questioning, when he was just a neighborhood kid.

So very very very tragic.

I know people say kids are in no more danger than they were "back in the day". Did teenagers really kill little kids back then? Wait...what am I saying?? In 1984, my freshman year...a classmate killed another classmate. He got away with it for over 25 years!!!! Ironically, he was finally arrested after living on the streets in Santa Cruz!!! FBI did some DNA testing years later, and got a hit in the early 2000's. When he was arrested in Santa Cruz, he was finally sent back to Alameda County where he stood trial and was convicted.

So I guess kids have been killing kids. No one knows why the above murderer killed our classmate either.

I hope The Tannery finds a way to heal. This seems like a great community and important place for Santa Cruz. There is lots of work to do to clean up Santa Cruz. A place where I grew up. We were able to go there for the day, as soon as we got our licenses. Without adult supervision. I doubt our parents would let us do the same today.

Take your kids to Santa Cruz. It's a neat place- downtown, the beach, or the Boardwalk- just do it as a family outing. Then you don't have to worry about the druggies and the predators, they've always been around.

 

[corundogs]

Question about the dogs...

Could it be that the dogs that were brought in were not cadaver dogs...so they wouldn't have hit on her scent in the recycle bin, because it was deceased???

I have no idea how this works...so forgive me if this is a stupid question.

 

[IBsleuthin]

So apparently this artsy community had a sociopath in it's midst and had a false sense of security. He charmed them by being well-spoken, and willing to help with environmental cleanup, and willing to friend an 8-year-old girl. Alarm bells should have been going off with that- just like the little girl in Washington state that Gabe Gaitano killed...

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but the wording you chose here really comes across as condescending. "So apparently this ARTSY community....

I have some good friends who are artists and they are good people. They might be eccentric but that doesn't mean they deserve anyone looking down on them.

Maybe the rawness of this crime has me reading you wrong.

 

[LinasK]

Does anyone know if her parents were at the apartment when her body was discovered? I'm just imagining how awful that situation could have been? Like at first I'm thinking I'd run to the dumpster to see my baby, but then I'm thinking I couldn't handle it. Dear Lord, what does a mother do in a situation such as this? A day earlier your freckled face baby is riding her scooter. The next, she's found in a dumpster where you live. So so so horrible and sad.

I let my 7 year old ride her scooter in front of our house, the neighbor's house, and the next neighbor's house. She did this almost everyday in the Spring after school when the weather was nice. I don't know if I'll be able to let her any longer. The sidewalks in our neighborhood are 15 feet INTO our front yards (older neighborhood) so I feel like she's safe from cars and it's a great safe neighborhood. But really, you hear stuff like this and it terrifies you. It's so sad! If children can't play in their own yards, where can they play? I don't want to be that mom doesn't allow independent play. I think it's important for a child's development, but geez if they get killed they can't develop, can they!?

When we chose our neighborhood, I checked the watchdog site for registered sex offenders, and there are none in the neighborhood, so that made me feel more secure as she rode her scooter. But now I don't know what I'll do.

My motherinlaw is buying tracking necklaces for all the grandchildren, but I'm not sure a tracking necklace would have helped in this situation since it played out so quickly. But maybe??

Sorry for the rant, but with 4 kids (12,13, 7, and 3.5) there's a lot to speculate on with this tragedy. The teenager predator aspect and the young schoolgirl riding her scooter aspect.

Where can they play? The backyard and in the house, or out front but supervised. I drive my daughter everywhere and even volunteer frequently to drive her friends home from school so that I know they get there safely. I think it's BS that they won't develop properly if you are a helicopter parent.

 

[corundogs]

Take your kids to Santa Cruz. It's a neat place- downtown, the beach, or the Boardwalk- just do it as a family outing. Then you don't have to worry about the druggies and the predators, they've always been around.

Yes, that is true that they have always been around...I was gonna say something about things being "sketchy" sometimes, but we were young and invincible! (Of course, the "sketchy" word was not part of our vernacular at the time! LOL!!)

But I don't have kids...and don't live in California anymore. But I know my friends still take their kids, it a favorite spot for some. And it makes my heart happy when I see pics on FB of them there!!! But I don't know if they would let their teenagers go by themselves the way our parents did. Our parents biggest fear was Hwy 17!!!