CA man drives to Utah to kill brother, set fire to his home before dying in police shootout, Apr 2023

[Knox]

(KTLA) — A Long Beach man apparently drove 12 hours to Utah to kill his brother and set fire to his home before he died in a shootout with police, authorities said.

The man was identified by the Weber County Attorney’s Office as Jeffrey Roberts, 66. Investigators believe Roberts drove to North Ogden, Utah with the intention of killing his brother, Scott.

Doorbell camera and police body camera footage show the moments leading up to the deadly shooting and the chaotic moments that followed.

On April 27, around 7:10 p.m., Scott Roberts and his wife, Jodi, were eating dinner when Jeffrey arrived at their front door, authorities said.

In the video captured by Scott’s Ring doorbell camera, a brief conversation between the two brothers ends in gunfire when Jeffrey pulls out a handgun and begins shooting. Both Scott and his wife can be heard screaming.

Jeffrey Roberts is seen leaving the home and returning after grabbing a shotgun and other items from his vehicle.

Neighbors heard the gunfire and called 911 and police were dispatched to the scene.

Video of the police encounter can be found here. The video may be considered disturbing.

California man drives to Utah to kill brother, set fire to his home before dying in police shootout

(KTLA) — A Long Beach man apparently drove 12 hours to Utah to kill his brother and set fire to his home before he died in a shootout with police, authorities said. The man was identified by …

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[Knox]

The footage that followed showed suspect Jeffrey Roberts arriving at the front door and ringing the bell twice while waiting for someone to answer. During this time, he can be seen adjusting something hidden in the left side of his sweater.

Scott Roberts eventually answers the door. While he's not shown on the video, he can be heard in the following exchange:

Jeffrey : Hey, what's up?

Scott : What are you doing?

Jeffrey : I came to [inaudible] I came by to see mom.

Scott : She's not here.

Jeffrey: Where's she at?

Scott: Missouri.

Jeffrey: What's she doing there?

Scott: Well, she's living with Lorinda's mom, who's taking care of her.

Jeffrey: Really?

Scott: Yep.

Jeffrey: Well, how long's she been there?

Scott: Well, about -- about a year.

Jeffrey: Really?

Jeffrey Roberts then removes a gun concealed inside his sweater and fires multiple shots at his brother. The victim is never seen being hit, but at least eight shots are fired as the suspect enters the home and out of view of the camera before the footage ends.

He can also be heard yelling as the shots are being fired, though his words are inaudible. According to a time code at the bottom of the Ring.com footage, the first shot was fired at 7:12 p.m.

Neighbors who heard the gunshots began calling 911. A man who lives next door to the Roberts is heard in a in a distressed state in 911 audio telling a dispatcher that he heard what he thought were gunshots, but, "I'm not sure about that."

Over the span of about 13 minutes, the doorbell camera was triggered by motion several times as Jeffrey Roberts entered and exited the home and as police responded. The video kicked on again at 7:13 p.m., showing Jeffrey Roberts leaving through the front door and out of site of the camera momentarily. He can then be seen returning with a large bag in his left hand that appears to contain heavy items, and a shotgun in his right hand.

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[AliceInPain]

Terrifying. Sounds like they hadn't been in contact for a long time.
I wonder what other horrendous deeds he's done in his life

 

[Ravenmoon]

Okay. I am THAT PERSON.

What happened to the dog?

 

[AliceInPain]

Okay. I am THAT PERSON.

What happened to the dog?

There were two =*(

Man kills brother before dying in police shootout, doorbell cam video shows

 

[Soulmagent]

Okay. I am THAT PERSON.

What happened to the dog?

I Dont know if I am becoming more shockable as I age but I feel these last few months the level of intensity of the crimes are amplified x10

 

[10ofRods]

Both dogs died in the fire.

 

[LadyL]

Both dogs died in the fire.

poor doggos

 

[10ofRods]

I have a theory based on Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs and using data from here on WS.

Lots of people are feeling unsafe - which means the second level of basic humans needs is not met. This, according to Maslow, means that family and community relationships (particularly caring, intimate ones where people actually know and support each other) start to break down. People get paranoid instead.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a motivational theory in psychology comprising a five-tier model of human needs, often depicted as hierarchical levels within a pyramid. From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are: physiological (food and clothing), safety (job security), love and...

www.simplypsychology.org

 

[LadyL]

watching the video, I just kept wishing they would go in the house before the fire killed the dogs but I know they had to follow procedure for their safety

 

[LadyL]

I have a theory based on Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs and using data from here on WS.

Lots of people are feeling unsafe - which means the second level of basic humans needs is not met. This, according to Maslow, means that family and community relationships (particularly caring, intimate ones where people actually know and support each other) start to break down. People get paranoid instead.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a motivational theory in psychology comprising a five-tier model of human needs, often depicted as hierarchical levels within a pyramid. From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are: physiological (food and clothing), safety (job security), love and...

www.simplypsychology.org

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I think you're on to something here which is just really sad for all of us

 

[Ravenmoon]

I have a theory based on Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs and using data from here on WS.

Lots of people are feeling unsafe - which means the second level of basic humans needs is not met. This, according to Maslow, means that family and community relationships (particularly caring, intimate ones where people actually know and support each other) start to break down. People get paranoid instead.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a motivational theory in psychology comprising a five-tier model of human needs, often depicted as hierarchical levels within a pyramid. From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are: physiological (food and clothing), safety (job security), love and...

www.simplypsychology.org

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This is a "wow" moment for me.
People, in America, are losing the first level at a rapid rate.
If one doesn't have or can't obtain the most basic need, the other 4 levels are unattainable.

 

[Knox]

watching the video, I just kept wishing they would go in the house before the fire killed the dogs but I know they had to follow procedure for their safety

I was worried about Scott's wife!! She had been shot and was still in the house!!

The victim's wife was still inside the house while the fire was spreading. She was rescued and taken to the hospital; Scott Roberts died as a result of gunshot wounds.

California man drives to Utah to kill brother, set house on fire, officials say

Video shows the suspect, Jeffrey Roberts, fire multiple rounds inside the house, striking his brother. Roberts was ultimately killed in a shootout with police.

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[LordMo]

yeah, I agree with the above posters who are talking about greater trends. This is just a really sad, heartbreaking situation that we're all in and it helps me start to realize why crimes seem to be swinging back to being more heinous (and makes me appreciate Tricia's new rules even more.)

That said, this slimeball drove 12 hours, unannounced, to surprise his brother and ask to see their mother who had not lived at that address for maybe a year. Our perp was positively blindsided by his mother's longterm living situation, in the year of our lord 2023, where there are endless ways of communicating with one another across borders and time zones.

This man was a real piece of crap even before the murder.

 

[Soulmagent]

I have a theory based on Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs and using data from here on WS.

Lots of people are feeling unsafe - which means the second level of basic humans needs is not met. This, according to Maslow, means that family and community relationships (particularly caring, intimate ones where people actually know and support each other) start to break down. People get paranoid instead.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a motivational theory in psychology comprising a five-tier model of human needs, often depicted as hierarchical levels within a pyramid. From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are: physiological (food and clothing), safety (job security), love and...

www.simplypsychology.org

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I Do not think I have in my heart to tell my mom about this. Honestly I dont want to see my own kids to see this yet . Anita go learn some stuffs..Decide if its a curriculum suitable for my grown kids.Its new to me !

 

[Springrain]

I Do not think I have in my heart to tell my mom about this. Honestly I dont want to see my own kids to see this yet . Anita go learn some stuffs..Decide if its a curriculum suitable for my grown kids.Its new to me !

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is just a theoretical framework that basically says "If your basic needs (i.e. food, rest, housing) aren't met, then you can't have other needs, like self-esteem, belonging, and safety met." So if someone doesn't have their most basic needs met, they won't be able to succeed in other ways. It's nothing new or inappropriate at all! Very commonly taught in high school-level or early college psychology classes, for instance.

 

[Soulmagent]

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is just a theoretical framework that basically says "If your basic needs (i.e. food, rest, housing) aren't met, then you can't have other needs, like self-esteem, belonging, and safety met." So if someone doesn't have their most basic needs met, they won't be able to succeed in other ways. It's nothing new or inappropriate at all! Very commonly taught in high school-level or early college psychology classes, for instance.

I didn't mean to sound snarky . I had never seen the pyramid chart thing. She couldnt handle the food group chart.

 

[Springrain]

I didn't mean to sound snarky . I had never seen the pyramid chart thing. She couldnt handle the food group chart.

Oh no, I didn't think you sounded snarky at all! Just wanted to let you know about the basics of it.

 

[Soulmagent]

So ,My son (17) happened to notice a whole bunch of weirdness over the video from the OP.
624 to 630 on the video bullet holes disappear and return from the column. He also did a minute by minute commentary which made it 2 hours long and then his big sister showed up and did the whole 2 hour thing again! He also named each weapon he saw in the video and included descriptions of how they fire and now my head just hurts.
But what did you guys see in the video ?
(also it is an edited video and has always stated that.)
It is a hard video to watch .

 

[Soulmagent]

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