CA CA - Maya Millete, 39, missed daughter's birthday, Chula Vista, 7 Jan 2021 #3

[Seattle1]

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Perhaps they are doing so because they consider the children in grave danger and are attempting to compel an arrest. That's just a guess.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Every state has laws written to protect children suspected to be in danger. I also hope the family exercising their rights for what's in the best interest of the children -- especially visitation with the grandparents.

 

[Curious Me]

Bless the dedicated searches and Search Warriors. They're going to search in the Anzo Borrego Desert this weekend. It's going to be very hot, even within the city this weekend, and really hot out there in the desert. They're going to look in the Mud Caves area too. (see 0:41 on video)
Arroyo Tapiado: The mysterious mud caves of the Anza-Borrego Desert - Explore the USA Never went
to that area, but there's also Wind Caves out there I do remember. I don't know if I think there's any chance Maya's out there, but she's someplace. There's plenty of places even closer, and there's also a search again of Proctor Valley Road. One of these days Maya is going to be found. Prayers.

Weekend search teams meeting up to look for Maya Millete | cbs8.com

 

[Chocoholic]

"The mystery deepens in the case of beautiful missing mom Maya Millete, who vanished from her home in California. Maya’s sister and brother-in-law claim she was in a volatile marriage and just days away from meeting with a divorce attorney when she disappeared. They also claim her husband, Larry, isn’t helping them search for her. Plus, a family friend describes his visit inside the home. He claims he saw fans blowing and the windows open, as if the place was being aired out. He also claims he noticed what looked like a freshly repaired hole in the couple’s bedroom door." (I asked for permission to post)

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I agree,@jenn83, it can be very difficult to verbalize feelings about why one loves someone. Some emotions are ineffable.

When I listened to the interview with LM, I didn't interpret his words, nor his tone, as being in any way proof that he was unperturbed by his wife's disappearance, let alone the cause of it.

I'm reminded of Meursault, the character in The Outsider, by Albert Camus, who, although he killed a man, was condemned largely because he hadn't reacted to his mother's death in a way society deemed a person should. He didn't cry at her funeral.

It's easy to understand why so many consider LM orchestrated or committed a crime against Maya because of the list of "facts" to support the theory:

- partners are often the victim's killer
- the activity involving the freezer
- cars coming and going in the night
- reported capture of gunshot sounds allegedly originating from their shared home
- the timing of her disappearance on the day she contacts a divorce lawyer
- children playing outside late at night
- LM ending communication with Maya's family
- not participating in searches for her; patched-up holes in a door/wall
- his perceived apathetic demeanour

In spite of the above – and other details I've likely omitted because I really don't know all the reasons the public appears to have condemned LM – I'm not convinced he is guilty.

If he is innocent, I can't imagine the agony he is experiencing.



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Hi Puzzles! Appreciate your opinion. While I don’t 100% agree, I felt compelled to quote you because you’ve posted your opinion so respectfully. That gets me thinking..... and I actually hope you’re right. It would be travesty for those sweet children to lose both parents.

 

[love_and_protect]

Not sure if YouTube links are allowed if they're from a news source? I believe so but please delete if not allowed. I couldn't find an article using the original audio, just the video and the audio first shared with the news of the gun shot sounds was a recording of a recording and was not as clear as this..... This is chilling and it sounds like someone screaming after the first one. I might be wrong but it sounded like "mama, mama, mama"

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[Dre]

Not sure if YouTube links are allowed if they're from a news source? I believe so but please delete if not allowed. I couldn't find an article using the original audio, just the video and the audio first shared with the news of the gun shot sounds was a recording of a recording and was not as clear as this..... This is chilling and it sounds like someone screaming after the first one. I might be wrong but it sounded like "mama, mama, mama"

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uhhh I definitely counted 8???? the last 3 being really drawn out over time.
God. this audio is really clear, absolutely gunshots imo.
that wait between the last shots is sickening, execution, pure, controlled hatred.
I did not hear any screams, I did hear what I thought was shrieking, but I think it sounds just like the dog, like the dog started the barks with whimpering at the first shot

 

[SandyQLS]

Not sure if YouTube links are allowed if they're from a news source? I believe so but please delete if not allowed. I couldn't find an article using the original audio, just the video and the audio first shared with the news of the gun shot sounds was a recording of a recording and was not as clear as this..... This is chilling and it sounds like someone screaming after the first one. I might be wrong but it sounded like "mama, mama, mama"

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It should be allowed because it is a mainstream media clip of a TV broadcast of CBS8.

I hear it, too. I hear 3 screams after the first bang noise. I do not hear formed words like you do, just grave terror screams, bloodcurdling. The screams are silenced by the second bang, third bang...

It is very difficult to hear, and I hope some of our younger posters with good hearing can take a listen. Thank you for posting.

 

[SandyQLS]

uhhh I definitely counted 8???? the last 3 being really drawn out over time.
God. this audio is really clear, absolutely gunshots imo.
that wait between the last shots is sickening, execution, pure, controlled hatred.
I did not hear any screams, I did hear what I thought was shrieking, but I think it sounds just like the dog, like the dog started the barks with whimpering at the first shot

I agree. I hear 8 shots.
1-bang, brief hesitation
2-3-4-5 in succession, long pause
6 long pause
7 long pause
8 end.
LE knows so much more than we are privy to IMO.

 

[love_and_protect]

I am so worried about the kids

 

[Limecat]

uhhh I definitely counted 8???? the last 3 being really drawn out over time.
God. this audio is really clear, absolutely gunshots imo.
that wait between the last shots is sickening, execution, pure, controlled hatred.
I did not hear any screams, I did hear what I thought was shrieking, but I think it sounds just like the dog, like the dog started the barks with whimpering at the first shot

This is what I hear as well, though that’s the first time I heard 8 “shots”. Definitely the dog yapping after the first shot when I use my ear buds. Those last three bangs are the most chilling.

I just wonder where the children were? If they weren’t heard playing around outside until 10:30 ish, (which is so weird) that’s half an hour later. There’s no way they could be in the house or yard for that matter and not hear those “shots”. How the heck would you explain those noises to anyone much less children?
Speculation and moo

 

[NoSI]

Not sure if YouTube links are allowed if they're from a news source? I believe so but please delete if not allowed. I couldn't find an article using the original audio, just the video and the audio first shared with the news of the gun shot sounds was a recording of a recording and was not as clear as this..... This is chilling and it sounds like someone screaming after the first one. I might be wrong but it sounded like "mama, mama, mama"

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Wow! Yes, you have a good ear. I turned it up on my phone and definitely hear screaming as well. Oh no...

 

[Bogyo13]

Chilling!
Definitely sounds like gunshots but I just can't see how there's no evidence of so many shots. If the door was the target, the bullet would go through and hit something, there would be blood etc. Plus the kids were still inside, only outside after 10..
I am so confused about this, what the heck was going on in that house, what do the kids know?!

 

[Dre]

I don’t think the shots would have been to gain entry as the door hole would have been described much differently? Wouldn’t it have taken 1 or two shots directly to the lock?

but I agree with that many gunshots there should have been an abundant amount of evidence as to damage or blood. Maybe this is why he had the bedroom locked, he needed time to remove the items inside riddled with bullets? Baffled and horrified.
Those poor children.

 

[Megnut]

Arguments often start in one area of the house and escalate to another.

We now have a potential timeframe.... late evening. Children could've been in bed....

I'll take leave of this case and lay out a general one based on other headlines.

Let's say a wife is making plans to leave a relationship. If there's a history of violence, perhaps she has secured a weapon, for self protection.

Let's say there's an argument, with words, rustling, tousling... gets violent... choking for instance and she breaks away, terrified, runs to the bedroom, locks the door to buy time, grabs the weapon. By now the door is breached, fight ensues over possession of the weapon, it fires, into the wall, the floor, hits something tinny.... more wrestling, more firing.... until the wrong person gains control of the weapon. I've seen it in movies.

It happens. Sadly and tragically.

There are often patterns.

If there's been a history of violence in a home, to try to preserve the peace, frequently victims expend a lot of energy trying to contain it. Explain it away. Take responsibility for it. Patch it over. Be it a punched wall, a black eye, a public outburst. He didn't hit me, i was clumsy. He didn't break it, I did.

And abusers get emboldened, better with gaslighting. Let ME tell you what you heard. You weren't scared, that was a game, remember? Oh, that, you know that was from the TV....

The mark of a manipulator is the moment they get you to doubt your own preception....

I don't know what happened to beautiful Maya but IMO it wasn't voluntary. I fear it was, in every way, messy, it was horrifying and it was final.

May LE get the breaks they need. Fast.

JMO

 

[Sketchy]

Based on the information provided by BL, it does seem like LM put a lot of thought into various scenarios, even allegedly saying “he needs to plan it well.” So there might be varying degrees of premeditation. This might sound completely implausible (probably is) but could someone have lined the freezer with a bulletproof material ahead of time (wood, fibreglass, etc), forced her to get in at gunpoint and then... you know the rest.
Almost no clean up, no bullet holes, etc.

 

[Dre]

Based on the information provided by BL, it does seem like LM put a lot of thought into various scenarios, even allegedly saying “he needs to plan it well.” So there might be varying degrees of premeditation. This might sound completely implausible (probably is) but could someone have lined the freezer with a bulletproof material ahead of time (wood, fibreglass, etc), forced her to get in at gunpoint and then... you know the rest.
Almost no clean up, no bullet holes, etc.

WOAH. Certainly a way to contain evidence... those freezers are thick and a smaller caliber might not even fully penetrate. I think if this were the case she would have already been incapacitated prior to being put into the freezer... I doubt this is what happened but interesting theory indeed.

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

I hate speculating on this okay, this is my amateurish opinion but after the countless interviews and the details that have come out, I can't help but try to piece this together myself. My theory is that the freezer was used for her body during clean-up and the planning of where to dispose of her. LM's family came over to help, and once she was disposed of the freezer was cleaned and stocked with food. I think he made the hiking comment because she could have been dumped somewhere where if she was found, her death could have been attributed to being out there instead (bullets or not). I actually believe that she did want her space as their marriage crumbled, from HIM.

I do think he heard her moving around and making dinner for the kids, THURSDAY, not Friday. An argument took place, perhaps she locked herself in her room, and something went down afterward resulting in those 8 gunshots. May's door had fresh patching. Did she run from him? Did he punch or shoot it open to get to her?

My question is WHY hasn't his phone and laptop been confiscated? His Aunt and Uncle's? Does anyone know if police can still trace location via towers considering his phone and May's were shut off? If he was tracking her so closely and basically stalking her every move as the family lawyer says, there should be a wealth of information about his possible planning and even the aftermath of what he did to her.

I worry for those kids. I hate the comparison to the Susan Powell case because of how things played out...those kids need to be with their mom's family.

I don't like Dr. Phil but wow, I was crying throughout the whole episode while her sister and BIL were being interviewed. The lawyer for the family has revealed quite a bit, and it's troubling to hear what he's been saying. I don't believe for a second Billy Little tried to impersonate anyone, let alone NCIS...this lawyer is not dumb.

I commend the family and community for continuing to turn the dial. LM just needs to confess already. The texts that have come out, the creepy picture of them with the candlewax dripped all over it...speaks volumes while he keeps mum, IMO.

That poor 11-year-old baby girl's birthday will never be the same.

ETA * I think what LM's father said to the reporter in the interview that came out was just plain nasty (and damning). I hope those weren't HER kids he was with considering there's 6 siblings and the family is quite large...but that he would say anything at all about Maya's family looking for a 'dead body' is just disgusting.

Also, as a Filipino myself, I have to say that revenge killings over affairs or perceived 'affairs' have been normalized in the Philippines. Divorce is illegal there, so you can imagine how culturally it makes a lot of sense that Larry was so desparate to keep the family together.

 

[Curious Me]

I hope those weren't HER kids he was with considering there's 6 siblings and the family is quite large...but that he would say anything at all about Maya's family looking for a 'dead body' is just disgusting.

I agree he was not sensitive to those children by saying that about a dead body. Those had to be her and Larry's kids, not some other kids. Figure that's LM's father, so he wouldn't be with any of the other six siblings kids from Maya's family. Or do you mean LM has a large family and his father was watching other kids from Larry's side of the family, but coming out of Maya and Larry's house?

MOO, there seems to be a big division in LM's Dad's mind between her family and theirs. I was so sad to hear on Dr. Phil the confirmation that they didn't like Maya. I can't imagine in-laws not liking me and coming to stay at my house. MOO, please leave if you don't like me. LM was looking for people to side with him, and who better than his parents and relatives. They'll protect their own I'd imagine.

I agree what he said in front of the children about a dead body was inappropriate. No telling what those children have heard from that side of the family. MOO again, there's nothing good for them to hear unfortunately. Their mother has disappeared and it's going to be painfully uncomfortable and confusing for those children no matter which side of the family they're with at this point.

Of course, I'm sure they heard a lot about "people's speculations" from LM and dismissing suspicions. Maybe others are implying to the kids that Maya took off deserting them, and left them on purpose, and silly that her family is looking for a dead body. That little girl looked almost numb in the news clip. It's probably necessary for her to stay numb. This is all my own thoughts and MOO.

 

[Seattle1]

My question is WHY hasn't his phone and laptop been confiscated? His Aunt and Uncle's? Does anyone know if police can still trace location via towers considering his phone and May's were shut off? If he was tracking her so closely and basically stalking her every move as the family lawyer says, there should be a wealth of information about his possible planning and even the aftermath of what he did to her.

^^rsbm

I don't think we know that they have not already been collected as CVPD reported they've executed at least 12 search warrants. I also recall LM stating (back when still cooperating with police) that he surrendered his phone to investigators immediately.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I hate speculating on this okay, this is my amateurish opinion but after the countless interviews and the details that have come out, I can't help but try to piece this together myself. My theory is that the freezer was used for her body during clean-up and the planning of where to dispose of her. LM's family came over to help, and once she was disposed of the freezer was cleaned and stocked with food. I think he made the hiking comment because she could have been dumped somewhere where if she was found, her death could have been attributed to being out there instead (bullets or not). I actually believe that she did want her space as their marriage crumbled, from HIM.

I do think he heard her moving around and making dinner for the kids, THURSDAY, not Friday. An argument took place, perhaps she locked herself in her room, and something went down afterward resulting in those 8 gunshots. May's door had fresh patching. Did she run from him? Did he punch or shoot it open to get to her?

My question is WHY hasn't his phone and laptop been confiscated? His Aunt and Uncle's? Does anyone know if police can still trace location via towers considering his phone and May's were shut off? If he was tracking her so closely and basically stalking her every move as the family lawyer says, there should be a wealth of information about his possible planning and even the aftermath of what he did to her.

I worry for those kids. I hate the comparison to the Susan Powell case because of how things played out...those kids need to be with their mom's family.

I don't like Dr. Phil but wow, I was crying throughout the whole episode while her sister and BIL were being interviewed. The lawyer for the family has revealed quite a bit, and it's troubling to hear what he's been saying. I don't believe for a second Billy Little tried to impersonate anyone, let alone NCIS...this lawyer is not dumb.

I commend the family and community for continuing to turn the dial. LM just needs to confess already. The texts that have come out, the creepy picture of them with the candlewax dripped all over it...speaks volumes while he keeps mum, IMO.

That poor 11-year-old baby girl's birthday will never be the same.

ETA * I think what LM's father said to the reporter in the interview that came out was just plain nasty (and damning). I hope those weren't HER kids he was with considering there's 6 siblings and the family is quite large...but that he would say anything at all about Maya's family looking for a 'dead body' is just disgusting.

Also, as a Filipino myself, I have to say that revenge killings over affairs or perceived 'affairs' have been normalized in the Philippines. Divorce is illegal there, so you can imagine how culturally it makes a lot of sense that Larry was so desparate to keep the family together.

There is so much to examine in this case, and I find it extremely sad all around.
Trying to save your marriage and keep a family together is admirable, but it's only useful if both parties have that goal. It would seem that Maya did not, and was done.

Without having all the facts, from the outside looking in, it would appear that Larry had been relegated to Mr. Mom duty, while his wife lived a busy social life that did not include him. Many couples make this work when one is outgoing and the other a home body. Whatever transpired between the two, Larry seemingly crossed over from concerned husband to obsessed and unstable. The alleged stalking and alleged 100's of text messages to relatives reinforce that instability.

I am wondering if LM's relatives bought a new freezer, and are just saying the freezer was LM's. That should be explored. IF they had been a dead body in that freezer, who in their right mind would put frozen food in it? That is beyond creepy. Way beyond.

IF LM has relatives involved in Maya's disappearance or disposal in any way, they had better RUN to the DA's office to cut a deal before they are all scooped up.
This case needs to move along quickly; I am wondering if LM is truly insane, and we could have a second tragedy if LE doesn't act now.

The caveat is I don't know more than you do of course. We don't know *IF* LM is a Perp, or his relatives implicated. For the sake of the children, I pray not. But it's not looking good....at all.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Seattle1]

April 17, 2021
CBS 8 San Diego

The following is original audio from a surveillance camera mounted on a house in Maya Millete's neighborhood. The camera seen in the video is NOT the camera that recorded the audio. The audio was a direct, digital transfer of the camera-original audio. As a result, this is a clean copy of the audio without background noise that was present in an earlier copy recorded by News 8. This longer recording includes two additional loud bangs, for a total of eight. The neighbor reported the audio was recorded at 9:57 p.m. on Thursday, January 7, the day Maya Millete went missing. Then, at about 10:35 p.m. the same camera recorded what sounded like children playing in a backyard. That 10:35 p.m. audio is not included in this clip. The neighbor asked News 8 to keep them anonymous.

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UPDATED: Surveillance audio records loud bangs on night Maya Millete went missing

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