CA CA - Melodee Buzzard, 9, Vandenberg Village, 14 Oct 2025

[Knox]

To be fair, M is missing from the pov of LE and the general public. It is possible A knows exactly where she is.

Do you say "possible" because you feel Ashlee may not know where Melodee is currently located? Trying to think through the possibilities on that.

 

[Greenestdays]

Do you say "possible" because you feel Ashlee may not know where Melodee is currently located? Trying to think through the possibilities on that.

I meant that she might know, she might not know, either way, we have no idea whether she knows or not (you know )?
Sorry, I am expressing myself very badly, but what I’m trying to say is that in my opinion, it’s possible that from her pov M isn’t missing, which would explain the lack of concern and urgency.

 

[Cedars]

I meant that she might know, she might not know, either way, we have no idea whether she knows or not (you know )?
Sorry, I am expressing myself very badly, but what I’m trying to say is that in my opinion, it’s possible that from her pov M isn’t missing, which would explain the lack of concern and urgency.

It's true, she certainly never reported M as missing. And I believe she certainly knows where she and M were, the last time she saw her daughter.

Is it likely that she has no idea where M is now? I think she might be a bit more agitated if she didn't know for certain. Like, what if M arrived at her (old) door, with the world watching? Would that be a good thing or a bad thing for stonemom?

BTW, I've just assumed LE are monitoring her transactions and communications, in the hopes they lead to finding M.

JMO

 

[Knox]

I meant that she might know, she might not know, either way, we have no idea whether she knows or not (you know )?
Sorry, I am expressing myself very badly, but what I’m trying to say is that in my opinion, it’s possible that from her pov M isn’t missing, which would explain the lack of concern and urgency.

You didn't express yourself badly at all. I was seriously thinking about the scenerios in which that could be true

 

[sunspun]

what if M arrived at her (old) door, with the world watching?

Snipped to give you my answer to your question:

The fact that she's not at all worried about that happening is a bad sign, imo.

 

[Stunned]

Is anyone else starting to feel this is ridiculous time-suck? Ashlee said, "I'm an itelligent woman, I'm forty years-old". All the things she stated in the recording with Brewer, apply to her in the situation she's created for herself. Does she have any self-awareness at all?

What's her end-game, does she even have one? Is she just waiting to be arrested on something related to Melodee - then she'll produce her or state her location?

Not to mention the cost of the investigation - we're at day 38 and counting. Is this a waste of resources at this point?

I think so. She's absolutely playing them. IMO

 

[Knox]

I think so. She's absolutely playing them. IMO

That was the basis for my post last night. I don't think it's wrong for LE to search or expend resources on finding Melodee. I poorly expressed my frustration.

If Ashlee is indeed living out some scenerio where she feels she's done nothing wrong, and isn't accountable to LE or the Lompoc School District. I'll ask my question again - what's her end game? I want to hear other opinions, because at this point I'm very irritated with the video's of her moving about like nothing's wrong, ignoring that her child is the object of a national missing child BOLO.

The bottom line is Melodee's well being. What has she suffered as a result of living such an isolated life? What has Ashlee told her all this time, if she is indeed as paranoid as everyone thinks? If she is located, should she be given back to Ashlee?

 

[Beans]

My suspicion is that when she enrolled her at the school, something happened very soon after to make her think that in the process of registration and engaging with the school, her details and privacy had been compromised in some way, either in legitimate or not so legitimate ways. Or something along those lines.

I think this is all about her trying to keep Melodee away from the father's side of the family. Whatever is going on, it has become clear that she really really really doesn't want to have anything to do with them.

I'm also far from convinced that all the stories we've been told about Ashlee - or how she and her daughter live their lives - are 100% true either.

 

[Stunned]

That was the basis for my post last night. I don't think it's wrong for LE to search or expend resources on finding Melodee. I poorly expressed my frustration.

If Ashlee is indeed living out some scenerio where she feels she's done nothing wrong, and isn't accountable to LE or the Lompoc School District. I'll ask my question again - what's her end game? I want to hear other opinions, because at this point I'm very irritated with the video's of her moving about like nothing's wrong, ignoring that her child is the object of a national missing child BOLO.

The bottom line is Melodee's well being. What has she suffered as a result of living such an isolated life? What has Ashlee told her all this time, if she is indeed as paranoid as everyone thinks? If she is located, should she be given back to Ashlee?

Her end game? " you can't touch catch me!"

 

[dmac55]

However, she cannot stonewall for ever. LE will not give up on locating M.

It seems 6 months without communication or financial/physical support is typically the point where parental rights can be terminated, and after perhaps a longer period of publicity and search with no proof of life, the circumstances of the car trip will be used against her for some type of murder charge.

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JMO

The case below is in AZ and the baby was never produced or the mother made to account for that fact and I still can’t believe it and yet…

“Elizabeth Johnson, the mother of the missing Baby Gabriel, was convicted of
custodial interference and unlawful imprisonment in 2012, served her prison sentence, and has since been released. She currently lives in New Mexico, has legally changed her name (most recently to Naomi Aragon), is married, and has another child.”
The whereabouts of her son Gabriel, who disappeared in December 2009, remain unknown.

Mother of missing ‘Baby Gabriel’ legally changes identity as case continues receiving attention Mother of missing ‘Baby Gabriel’ legally changes identity as case continues receiving attention

 

[Cedars]

If Ashlee is indeed living out some scenerio where she feels she's done nothing wrong, and isn't accountable to LE or the Lompoc School District. I'll ask my question again - what's her end game?

I don't think we can assume she believes she's done nothing wrong, at least 'wrong' in the eyes of those in authority. Why else did she use the wigs and NY license plate and whatever else, except to try to conceal her actions from police? That looks to me like the behaviour of someone who knows they're doing something wrong and are trying to cover it up.

It seem likely she's also quite aware she doesn't have to speak to police. Any defense lawyer will tell you - if you're a suspect, never, ever say anything to police (or, by extension, the media).

But by not expressing anything about her daughter, it's again obvious to me, she knows she's done something 'wrong' and just doesn't want to get caught.

I feel there is a mythic quality assumed to apply to all mothers, which not every single individual fulfills.

JMO

 

[TMich6811]

I’m not sure the “wrong” she was avoiding was related to melodee though

 

[Stunned]

I’m not sure the “wrong” she was avoiding was related to melodee though

What, like Melodee was just along for the rise?

 

[Cedars]

What, like Melodee was just along for the rise?

And just happened to not come home from the trip?

 

[ivegotcha]

Wondering if she is in the Me , Myself and I mode....

 

[Beans]

I don't think we can assume she believes she's done nothing wrong, at least 'wrong' in the eyes of those in authority. Why else did she use the wigs and NY license plate and whatever else, except to try to conceal her actions from police? That looks to me like the behaviour of someone who knows they're doing something wrong and are trying to cover it up.

It seem likely she's also quite aware she doesn't have to speak to police. Any defense lawyer will tell you - if you're a suspect, never, ever say anything to police (or, by extension, the media).

But by not expressing anything about her daughter, it's again obvious to me, she knows she's done something 'wrong' and just doesn't want to get caught.

I feel there is a mythic quality assumed to apply to all mothers, which not every single individual fulfills.

JMO

Maybe she already thought she was being followed or was under investigation at that point? Even just by a PI or similar?

Have to admit, I do now have some sympathy for her (assuming Melodee is unharmed and safe and well with good people of course) but this sneaky part of it and the refusal to even play the game a little bit is still concerning. I wish she would just give the police whatever they need to be sure that M is alright. That said, we don't actually know what sort of proof they're demanding - maybe it's not that easy.

 

[Eli9]

I've been in the don't jail her frame of mind because she wouldn't be facing that much time and then it would be over if Melodee is still alive but the more I think about it I might flip flop and be on the other side of the fence. I don't think Ashlee would do that well with having her freedoms taken from her. JMO, MOO

 

[ivegotcha]

Maybe she already thought she was being followed or was under investigation at that point? Even just by a PI or similar?

Have to admit, I do now have some sympathy for her (assuming Melodee is unharmed and safe and well with good people of course) but this sneaky part of it and the refusal to even play the game a little bit is still concerning. I wish she would just give the police whatever they need to be sure that M is alright. That said, we don't actually know what sort of proof they're demanding - maybe it's not that easy.

I believe proof of life , meaning a visual or the actual person in question .

 

[Cedars]

The case below is in AZ and the baby was never produced or the mother made to account for that fact and I still can’t believe it and yet…

“Elizabeth Johnson, the mother of the missing Baby Gabriel, was convicted of
custodial interference and unlawful imprisonment in 2012, served her prison sentence, and has since been released. She currently lives in New Mexico, has legally changed her name (most recently to Naomi Aragon), is married, and has another child.”
The whereabouts of her son Gabriel, who disappeared in December 2009, remain unknown.

Mother of missing ‘Baby Gabriel’ legally changes identity as case continues receiving attention Mother of missing ‘Baby Gabriel’ legally changes identity as case continues receiving attention

Yes, she hasn't been charged because a baby, if illegally adopted by another family, wouldn't know what happened.

However a 9 year old, I feel, would remember her own name, her mother, where she lived, the wigs, the car trip, etc. She had, at least for a time, been associated with a school. Those memories can't be easily erased, and if she grows older, she can't so easily be silenced.

JMO

 

[Knox]

I don't think we can assume she believes she's done nothing wrong, at least 'wrong' in the eyes of those in authority. Why else did she use the wigs and NY license plate and whatever else, except to try to conceal her actions from police? That looks to me like the behaviour of someone who knows they're doing something wrong and are trying to cover it up.

It seem likely she's also quite aware she doesn't have to speak to police. Any defense lawyer will tell you - if you're a suspect, never, ever say anything to police (or, by extension, the media).

But by not expressing anything about her daughter, it's again obvious to me, she knows she's done something 'wrong' and just doesn't want to get caught.

I feel there is a mythic quality assumed to apply to all mothers, which not every single individual fulfills.

JMO

LE was not involved at the time she took the road trip to Nebraska. But the school was applying pressure and supposedly the truancy officer had come to her home. So I guess your point is still valid, if she's paranoid - that was enough to make her conceal her movements.