CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

[iamshadow21]

An update that the advisory to not drink the tap water (unless boiled), only bottled includes the Pacific Palisades.

Biden sends federal resources to battle blazes – as it happened

This blog has now closed. Our new live blog is here and you can read our full report on the Californian blazes here.

www.theguardian.com

 

[iamshadow21]

This Smithsonian article is over five years old, but a very useful resource for anyone who wants to understand how wildfires work, and what scientists are doing to help further that understanding and approaches to fire prevention and management in the future.

Untangling the Physics Behind Drifting Embers, 'Firenadoes' and Other Wildfire Phenomena

Fires can leap rapidly from building to building and even cause extreme weather events such as pyrocumulonimbus storm clouds

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[JennieM]

Scale of LA fires revealed in satellite images​

Image caption,
Huge fires engulf Pacific Palisades (L) and Altadena (R) in Los Angeles

Dramatic imagery released by the US space technology company Maxar has revealed the immense scale of the fires across Los Angeles.

One image, captured using infrared technology to detect heat signatures, shows a large blaze immediately to the north-west of the coastal neighbourhood of Pacific Palisades. The Palisades fire has now grown to more than 17,200 acres.

Another infrared image captured around 25 miles (40km) to the north-east shows fires engulfing residential areas of Altadena, near Pasadena. The Eaton fire, the second biggest, has since burned at least 10,600 acres.

California's fire death toll doubles as chaos grips LA

Ten deaths have been confirmed so far in the Los Angeles fires, which have been fanned by powerful winds.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

Buildings burned to their bones as fire rips through Palisades​

Before and after pictures show businesses completely devastated by the Palisades blaze. Buildings have been burned to their bones as what is expected to be the most destructive fire to hit Los Angeles continues to tear unabated through the suburbs.

The second biggest fire, Eaton, is ravaging towns around Los Angeles county - including Altadena.

The blaze has ravaged at least 10,600 acres and, like most of the other fires, is 0% contained. This means fire officials are prioritising saving lives rather than containing the fire.

IMAGE SOURCE, GETTY IMAGES

California's fire death toll doubles as chaos grips LA

Ten deaths have been confirmed so far in the Los Angeles fires, which have been fanned by powerful winds.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

Wind speeds expected to pick up throughout the day​

It's just passed 03:00 local time on Thursday in Los Angeles (11:00 GMT).

The temperature is around 49°F (9°C) as winds have calmed down - with speeds earlier at 3mph.

However, this will not last long. Winds are expected to strengthen throughout the day with gusts of up to 40mph forecast across Los Angeles this afternoon. Humidity is currently at 25% and is expected to stay low.

We should have seen the worst of the Santa Ana winds.

But, a red flag warning of critical fire weather is in force until 18:00 local time Friday (02:00 GMT Saturday) with more strong, gusty winds and low humidity expected.

California's fire death toll doubles as chaos grips LA

Ten deaths have been confirmed so far in the Los Angeles fires, which have been fanned by powerful winds.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[iamshadow21]

LA Times is compiling and updating a list of LA restaurants offering shelter, discounts, and food to evacuees and first responders. Some are literally giving out free food to those who need it.

L.A. restaurants offering shelter, discounts and food to fire evacuees and first responders

These L.A. restaurants and coffee shops are staying open to shelter evacuees, offering discounts and, in some cases, free food to evacuees and first responders to the numerous ongoing fires in Southern California.

www.latimes.com

 

[Dotta]

"See the LA wildfires from SPACE: ​

Satellite images reveal just how quickly blazes exploded."​

See the LA wildfires from SPACE: Satellite images reveal devastation

Images taken from space reveal how the deadly LA wildfires spread to engulf more than 27,000 hectares of the city in just three days.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[iamshadow21]

Jamie Lee Curtis's house was spared, but the church that held the group where she got sober decades ago was destroyed.

Jamie Lee Curtis (@jamieleecurtis) on Threads

This is the church in the Palisades that had a beautiful Sunday school and school and was a gorgeous house of worship and is the building that I got sober in 25 years ago. I think of all of the souls who came there for comfort and solace and all the baptisms and funerals and weddings and the...

www.threads.net

It's not just the houses, it's the community spaces, it's the people. How many folks are not going to be able to afford to rebuild, aren't going to be able to get insurance, or are going priced out of rebuilt areas because of shifting demographics? How many folks never went home after Katrina?

MOO

 

[mickey2942]

Have these fires become worse? It reminds me of the Colorado fire that went so fast through a populated area, people were literally shopping at Costco, and had to run for their lives.

Marshall Fire - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Lahaina fire, devastated the area. And created it own "fire tornado".

2023 Hawaii wildfires - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Montana had a few bad fires this summer.

Destructive wildfire in southeastern Montana forces evacuations and claims land

The Remington fire has taken over southeastern Montana, and as of Sunday afternoon, has burned over 196,000 acres and is at 0% containment, according to MT Fire Info.

www.ktvq.com

Is this part of "climate change"? Or are more people living in areas that shouldn't have been developed?

 

[SusanDonim]

Is this part of "climate change"?

Yes. Yes it is :'(

Still the deniers screech and squawk and blame anything/anybody else instead, rather than the bleak truth.

 

[iamshadow21]

Have these fires become worse? It reminds me of the Colorado fire that went so fast through a populated area, people were literally shopping at Costco, and had to run for their lives.

Marshall Fire - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Lahaina fire, devastated the area. And created it own "fire tornado".

2023 Hawaii wildfires - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Montana had a few bad fires this summer.

Destructive wildfire in southeastern Montana forces evacuations and claims land

The Remington fire has taken over southeastern Montana, and as of Sunday afternoon, has burned over 196,000 acres and is at 0% containment, according to MT Fire Info.

www.ktvq.com

Is this part of "climate change"? Or are more people living in areas that shouldn't have been developed?

It is absolutely part of climate change.

Bushfires | AdaptNSW

Climate change is increasing the risk of bushfires in NSW, based on increases in fuel load, fuel dryness, fire weather and lightning strikes.

www.climatechange.environment.nsw.gov.au

(This is an Australian link, but it's transferrable information as the climate in California and other fire prone states is similar.)

MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

Resources, compiled by NBC:

From free Ubers to hotel discounts: List of resources for LA wildfire victims

Just as multiple wildfires spread through the Los Angeles area, several companies have announced free resources to help victims and their loved ones evacuate or stay safe.

www.nbclosangeles.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Wildfire destruction is highly personal for some reporting on it

With much of the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles destroyed by a wildfire, NBC News' Jacob Soboroff surveys the destruction of the place where he grew up, including his childhood home.

www.nbcnews.com

Jacob Soboroff of NBC has a tougher job than many on scene. Here he is reporting on the destruction of the neighbourhood he grew up in, including his childhood home.

 

[Lilibet]

Thanks so much for your posts @iamshadow21…especially during the time that most of us on the U.S. west coast should be asleep, but aren’t.

 

[iamshadow21]

The dangerous combination fueling the L.A. fires: Exceptional dryness and strong winds

With climate change altering rainfall patterns and making droughts more likely and intense, such destructive wildfires will continue to pose threats.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Jamie Lee Curtis's house was spared, but the church that held the group where she got sober decades ago was destroyed.

Jamie Lee Curtis (@jamieleecurtis) on Threads

This is the church in the Palisades that had a beautiful Sunday school and school and was a gorgeous house of worship and is the building that I got sober in 25 years ago. I think of all of the souls who came there for comfort and solace and all the baptisms and funerals and weddings and the...

www.threads.net

It's not just the houses, it's the community spaces, it's the people. How many folks are not going to be able to afford to rebuild, aren't going to be able to get insurance, or are going priced out of rebuilt areas because of shifting demographics? How many folks never went home after Katrina?

MOO

BBM. I was born and raised in Florida. Unfortunately unless LA goes out of their way to protect people’s property and ensure they don’t get priced out, it will happen. We see it with hurricanes all the time. Small houses on beach property that were passed down by family members are flooded and the current homeowner can’t afford to rebuild. Then a resort buys as many of those houses as they can (underpaying the desperate owner), razes them, and builds rental-only properties or expensive condos, completely getting rid of permanent residences in an area. It’s something that local government should prevent, but unfortunately, still happens. MOO.

 

[iamshadow21]

Thanks so much for your posts @iamshadow21…especially during the time that most of us on the U.S. west coast should be asleep, but aren’t.

There's something about disasters that grab me. It's not healthy, and it's not sustainable, but it's something I'm careful to manage in myself. And I'm aware I have an insight that could actually be helpful in this specific kind of disaster, so I'm mining that for what it's worth and using my ADHD/autistic/librarian heritage to try and find all the useful things, so that those who can and do sleep in the US will wake up and know what's what just from coming to the thread.

I am trying to find as many hopeful stories as sad ones, and as many useful resource links as I can. I know that disasters can bring out the bad in some, but overwhelmingly, I tend to hear far more stories of courage, heroism and endurance from wildfires and similar disasters. Humans are, for all their failings, a social species that bands together for survival. If it all turned to Lord of the Flies the moment things got bad, we never would have made it out if the Stone Age. For all that I'm very cynical about humans, I'm also about an equal believer in our capacity for kindness and selfless action.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[iamshadow21]

Red Flag warnings remain in place until Friday evening.

Winds are expected to be strongest in the Hollywood Hills area.

“Significant fire growth remains likely with ongoing or new fires” the [National Weather] service said.

Biden sends federal resources to battle blazes – as it happened

This blog has now closed. Our new live blog is here and you can read our full report on the Californian blazes here.

www.theguardian.com

 

[DS2021]

Altadena, California, has a current air quality index of 426, according to the latest from IQair

A satellite image shows the Eaton wildfire has set nearly every building in western Altadena in Los Angeles on fire.