CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

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Eleven deaths confirmed by LA authorities​


A total of 11 fire-related deaths have now been confirmed by the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner.

In a Friday afternoon update, the medical examiner said five of the deaths had taken place in the Palisades fire, with the other six due to the Eaton fire.

The deaths took place in Altadena, Malibu, Pacific Palisades and Topanga.

Human remains have only been confirmed in three of the cases, according to the update.

No further information on the identity of the victims was provided, although the identities of some of the other victims have been disclosed through other sources.

Read about the known victims here.

 
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At least five churches, a synagogue, seven schools, two libraries, boutiques, bars, restaurants, banks and groceries have been burned alongside thousands of homes in the LA fires.
Someone on another site said they'd heard about a museum that contained 40,000 ancient documents that was destroyed, but that was all the information they had. Most likely, if this is true, it was a mini-museum in a public library, or synagogue. Plus, unless it was one of the first buildings destroyed, the docents and employees would have done all they could to remove items ahead of time.

My town has too many businesspeople who insist in building in a riverside flood plain that literally goes over the banks every year, and when the Hesco-barrier levee broke in 2019, causing record flooding, when it looked like things were about to go sideways, a record store enlisted the community to empty the building, and a small museum a block or two away, that was in a basement, also did the same thing. The record store relocated in a nearby building that was about 10 feet higher, and the museum was able to reopen in the same space. (not a good idea)
 
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A bird's-eye view of the devastation​

As the maps below show, the fires are largely burning uninhabited areas but they have spread into populated areas.

Among the buildings already destroyed in the Palisades blaze are many of the exclusive properties that line the Malibu waterfront.

Two maps showing the areas affected by the Eaton Fire (top) and Palisades Fire (bottom) in red to show impact on both inhabited and rural areas of LA and Ventura counties


 
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They would not be as extensively trained, or as physically fit, as professional FFs, whether city or forest.
This comment from an article, from a former incarcerated firefighter, suggests more risk and less rest might factor.

Mota recalled the grueling nature of the job: “We always had this reputation on the fire ground of being the ones who did the dirtiest work, the hardest work, got there the earliest, stayed there the longest. There was a lot of respect we’d get from other fire crews. But that also takes its toll.”


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And if you ARE in the L.A. area, it's best to donate money and not your stuff, because the money can be used to buy things people need now. They definitely don't want your used underwear or stained stuffed animals.

Aid workers can literally go a mile or two away in many cases and get what's needed.
 
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Someone on another site said they'd heard about a museum that contained 40,000 ancient documents that was destroyed, but that was all the information they had. Most likely, if this is true, it was a mini-museum in a public library, or synagogue. Plus, unless it was one of the first buildings destroyed, the docents and employees would have done all they could to remove items ahead of time.

My town has too many businesspeople who insist in building in a riverside flood plain that literally goes over the banks every year, and when the Hesco-barrier levee broke in 2019, causing record flooding, when it looked like things were about to go sideways, a record store enlisted the community to empty the building, and a small museum a block or two away, that was in a basement, also did the same thing. The record store relocated in a nearby building that was about 10 feet higher, and the museum was able to reopen in the same space. (not a good idea)
Art collector Ron Rivlin lost dozens of pieces by significant artists, and who knows how many more by lesser known ones.

 
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As a bit of relief, have a short video of some happy and safe bunbuns, horses, and very good dogs at one of the many rescue shelters housing animal evacuees.

 
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Do not return to your homes, senator tells Altadena residents

Altadena Senior Centre is on fire
IMAGE SOURCE, GETTY IMAGES

Residents of Altadena and Pasadena have been warned by the senator who represents the district not to return to their properties.

California State Senator Sasha Renee Perez tells the BBC that with the Eaton Fire in the area being at just 3% containment, "this is very much still an active situation".

“This is not a safe time to be returning back to your home,” she reiterates.

With high ash levels in the air, Perez warns residents that it is not safe to drink from taps at the moment.

“We're telling folks, drink bottled water,” she says, adding that sites like Pasadena City College are handing out supplies.

As for when people might be able to return to their homes, the senator stresses that this is the “first time” her community has ever been faced with a wildfire “at this level”.

 
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View from my apartment right now. It was horrific on Wednesday -the whole sky was covered in that plume.


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Terrible loss of life, property, school and businesses in area, complete mess.
 
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Great comprehensive article focusing on the private and incarcerated firefighters, not shying away from the ethical and social issues surrounding both.

MOO
 
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Need to change our insurance system, says California lawmaker

California congresswoman Judy Chu has told the BBC there needs to be changes to the insurance system.

The rising threat of wildfires and insurance companies pulling back on offering coverage has become a crisis for homeowners throughout the state.

She says the state's insurance commissioner has announced a moratorium on non-renewals of insurance plans in wildfire areas.

She points to the non-renewals as what led residents to turn to the California FAIR plan, an insurance programme of last resort for homeowners who can't get fire coverage in the private insurance market.

But Chu says the FAIR plans costs more and cover less.

"There's some big problem-solving that has to be done on our insurance," she says.

 
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