CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

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It’s approaching 7pm in Los Angeles, where winds are easing, allowing firefighters to make significant progress containing the fires. But officials warn that the danger is far from over – red flag warnings are expected to go back into effect next week – and the work to identify the dead and rebuild is just beginning.

  • There are six wildfires currently raging in Los Angeles county. They include:
    • The Palisades fire, at 21,317 acres and 8% containment
    • The Eaton fire, at 13,690 acres and 3% containment
    • The Kenneth fire, at 1,052 acres and 50% containment
    • The Hurst fire, at 771 acres and 37% containment
    • The Lidia fire, at 395 acres and 98% containment
    • The Archer fire, at 19 acres and 0% containment

 
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I had noticed the Santa Ynez reservoir when I was looking at maps of the area. It looked peculiar to me, like a deflated baloon. Turns out it has been non-operable since Feb 2024. There were tears in the roof of the resevoir which were allowing contaminants such as bird droppings and debris to contaminate the water source. The reservoir was designed to provide potable water for ordinary household water use, but was never designed to be a reservoir for firefighting.

It's 117 million gallons might have helped, but only for a limited time.
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Interesting discussion about the water issues and the problem of having water sources for massive firefighting efforts.


 
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New evacuation order issues in Palisades Fire​

From CNN's Taylor Romine
A new evacuation order was issued in the Palisades Fire, extending to Interstate 405 and the Encino Reservoir, the Los Angeles Fire Department said in an alert.

The expansion of the order borders one of Los Angeles’ busiest freeways as well as the Getty Center, a cultural institution in the city.

 
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People you know​

Friends and family who lost property may need cash, temporary housing, or emotional support. But it’s important to reach out delicately, and to not have expectations for how or whether they will respond, said Dr. Adrienne Heinz, clinical research psychologist at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Center for PTSD. Here are some tips she has:

1. It can be helpful to check in. It can be comforting to know that others are thinking about you and want to lend their support during a difficult time. An example: “I’m so sorry for what has happened to your community. There aren’t really words to describe how sad this is. Can I send your family a meal tonight? I’m here for you and will keep checking in. No pressure to respond.”

2. Offer concrete ways of helping like lodging, gift cards, meals, childcare.

3. Give them grace. They may not be able to respond for a number of reasons.

4. Refrain from phrases that minimize or invalidate their experience, like “At least you’re alive,” or “Everything happens for a reason.” Just because someone didn’t lose their home, doesn’t mean they aren’t hurting. The entire community is still enduring a stressful and likely traumatic event.

 
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Daily Mail: LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley believes the fire started accidentally in a back garden around 10am Tuesday morning.

BBC: It is thought the first fire broke out in a back garden on Tuesday morning.


The LA Fire Department lists the Pacific Palisades fire as the 1190 N Piedra Morada Drive address. Their incident #738. But I think that could be where the first phone call about the fire came from at 10:30am (the time they list). Is it where the fire actually started at 10am?

I am sure I saw an article where the guy who called the fire in (first) had commented, but I can't find the article again now to remind myself about what he said.





he said he was the first 911 call
 
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Meanwhile: Another MANDATORY EVACUATION for Palisade Fire to the 405 !!!

A Mandatory Evacuation was just posted for the north and east flank of the Palisades Fire to Interstate 405 (The 405 is a MAJOR N-S artery carrying traffic from Orange County through west LA to the San Fernando Valley. )

There were problems this morning with spreading and spotting fires in the Mandeville Canyon area and it has progressed throughout the day.

This new area of evacuation has more of LA in it rather than Malibu. It includes the newer Getty Museum on the hill, and upper levels of Brentwood.

This is not good news and is a very conspicuous place to evacuate. It will certainly get a lot of attention and more concern.


 
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Thank you everyone for keeping us updated on these fires.
I can't tell you how great it is to know I can come to Websleuths and the the most up to date and accurate information.
 
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Regarding the fire hydrants failing, I don’t think this is unusual in a catastrophic fire. When the wind-driven Almeda fire roared through two towns in Southern Oregon in Sept 2020, the same thing happened. It would be nice to think that enough water can stop a fire like this, but it is not reality. However, finding something or someone to blame is somehow comforting for people. They figure if there’s a reason, the destruction can be prevented next time. That’s not necessarily true. The reality is ugly.


Video of the Almeda fire:
 
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“While water supplies from local fire hydrants are not designed to extinguish wildfires over large areas, losing supplies from fire hydrants likely impaired the effort to protect some homes and evacuation corridors,” Newsom wrote.
 
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#BREAKING Message from LAFD:"Get out of Mandeville Canyon"Mandatory evacuations underway as the Palisades Fire moves that way.


This is a BIG surprise for a lot of folks in LA, as it seemed that Palisades fire was on the slow progressive creep to containment and the large population centers were dealt with.

Like Pacific Palisades, these are very desirable and prestigious areas to have your address in and we will get another round of "Celebrity Evacuation" reports. These are also areas that have narrow and winding roads and having to fight fires in this region would be as problematic as in Pacific Palisades.
 
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Samir Chaudry and his wife only moved into their home a month ago. They finished the nursery for their unborn son on Monday.


Chaudry's parents were refugees who fled to the US after Partition.

“What’s incredible now is, I’m sitting with my parents who are also displaced. Their goal was to make sure that their kids never experience what they experienced, being displaced from their home,” he said.
 
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Regarding the fire hydrants failing, I don’t think this is unusual in a catastrophic fire. When the wind-driven Almeda fire roared through two towns in Southern Oregon in Sept 2020, the same thing happened. It would be nice to think that enough water can stop a fire like this, but it is not reality. However, finding something or someone to blame is somehow comforting for people. They figure if there’s a reason, the destruction can be prevented next time. That’s not necessarily true. The reality is ugly.


Video of the Almeda fire:
I totally agree. City fire hydrants are designed to fight a single house fire, not an entire neighborhood on fire with winds up to 100 mph moving it along. My son, cousin and uncle are wildland firefighters and those fires are managed, not put out with water. These LA fires are a terrible combination of both: a wildland fire whipping through densely populated areas.

 
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KTLA Live has excellent video coverage of the fire in the new Mandatory Evacuation with commentary from their traffic helicopter crews.

Their meterologist, Vera Jimenez is a real pro and provides the most pertinent information I am hearing in a very understandable fashion.
 
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I can't tell you how great it is to know I can come to Websleuths and the the most up to date and accurate information.
This is so true, @Tricia. Websleuths isn’t just about crime. Any time there is a big news event I know to come here for the most complete and accurate coverage. Crowd-sourcing the news by responsible people is invaluable. Thanks for providing the best place for news coverage!
 
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I totally agree. City fire hydrants are designed to fight a single house fire, not an entire neighborhood on fire with winds up to 100 mph moving it along. My son, cousin and uncle are wildland firefighters and those fires are managed, not put out with water. These LA fires are a terrible combination of both: a wildland fire whipping through densely populated areas.

Do you feel that Governor Newsom's call for a report about fire hydrant performance during this fire event necessary? JMO.
 
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