CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

[iamshadow21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1877898833398804861

 

[iamshadow21]

Hundreds of wild and domestic animals being cared for by Pasadena Humane Society.

(Two pictures of injured animals, not graphic at all.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/01/10/los-angeles-fires-updates-california-palisades-eaton/#link-HJYTUMTS7BFB7GDSAAWMLFENU4

 

[iamshadow21]

Most of Brentwood is now under mandatory evacuation due to the encroaching Palisades fire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/01/10/los-angeles-fires-updates-california-palisades-eaton/#link-GY3MGFJXNVC6RDQVRSVMQAR4OY

 

[Sundog]

Altadena Community Church burned to the ground. This was my church when I lived in Southern California. It's gone now. And many members of the church have also lost their homes, as have many other community members from groups that used the church space for their various needs.

 

[Tower]

Do you feel that Governor Newsom's call for a report about fire hydrant performance during this fire event necessary? JMO.

It is my understanding from the article I linked and many others I’ve read here and around the internet that no local water system is designed to handle the demand of putting out nearly 5,000 house fires during 60-100 mph winds (meaning fast-moving, with no possibility of air support).

Doing a post-mortem on fire hydrant performance is useful to see if a tragedy like this can be prevented in the future, but no one did anything wrong. No system would be designed to prevent this. Gov. Newsom has to call for action because that is the politically responsible thing to do.

It is valuable for California to start clearing wildlands responsibly as they are already planning to do. It’s a massive and expensive task.

Jmo

https://wildfiretaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/californiawildfireandforestresilienceactionplan.pdf

 

[Lilibet]

Do you feel that Governor Newsom's call for a report about fire hydrant performance during this fire event necessary? JMO.

It doesn’t hurt. There are always things to learn and possibly improve, as is illustrated in the linked article below about the Almeda fire in Oregon that I referenced earlier. But these fixes are bandaids when it comes to a wind-driven fire. It might save a few houses, but if people think it will put out these types of fires they are sadly mistaken, as is shown in the video I posted.

Water lines that failed during Almeda Fire to get system improvements

This week, the Oregon State Legislature approved a $3 million grant for fire resiliency improvements to the Talent-Ashland-Phoenix (TAP) system, the joint water line that suffered failures during the Almeda Fire. "As each individual home burned or business burned, those lines were open and...

ktvl.com

 

[Herat]

It is my understanding from the article I linked and many others I’ve read here and around the internet that no local water system is designed to handle the demand of putting out nearly 5,000 house fires during 60-100 mph winds (meaning fast-moving, with no possibility of air support).

Doing a post-mortem on fire hydrant performance is useful to see if a tragedy like this can be prevented in the future, but no one did anything wrong. No system would be designed to prevent this. Gov. Newsom has to call for action because that is the politically responsible thing to do.

It is valuable for California to start clearing wildlands responsibly as they are already planning to do. It’s a massive and expensive task.

Jmo

https://wildfiretaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/californiawildfireandforestresilienceactionplan.pdf

I would also hope there would be serious discussions about the encroachment of building into areas that cannot be protected from disastrous fires like this, and how to prevent it when people will not be responsible with fire hygiene.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It is my understanding from the article I linked and many others I’ve read here and around the internet that no local water system is designed to handle the demand of putting out nearly 5,000 house fires during 60-100 mph winds (meaning fast-moving, with no possibility of air support).

Doing a post-mortem on fire hydrant performance is useful to see if a tragedy like this can be prevented in the future, but no one did anything wrong. No system would be designed to prevent this. Gov. Newsom has to call for action because that is the politically responsible thing to do.

It is valuable for California to start clearing wildlands responsibly as they are already planning to do. It’s a massive and expensive task.

Jmo

https://wildfiretaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/californiawildfireandforestresilienceactionplan.pdf

Sounds like you're saying no matter what is done this kind of disaster will reoccur in the future.

I find that very disconcerting. JMO.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Sounds like you're saying no matter what is done this kind of disaster will reoccur in the future.

I find that very disconcerting. JMO.

Thanks to climate change, I bet a fire like this will happen again and I say that as a resident of L.A. <modsnip>

 

[Herat]

Sounds like you're saying no matter what is done this kind of disaster will reoccur in the future.

I find that very disconcerting. JMO.

There is no reason to believe the combination of weather conditions that existed during the point of ignition of the fire will change at all.

 

[iamshadow21]

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Altadena Community Church burned to the ground. This was my church when I lived in Southern California. It's gone now. And many members of the church have also lost their homes, as have many other community members from groups that used the church space for their various needs.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

It looks like it was a beautiful building. I know that where there's a will, there's a way, and it will rise again with the help of its congregation.

 

[DS2021]

Do you feel that Governor Newsom's call for a report about fire hydrant performance during this fire event necessary? JMO.

Ik you arent talking to me, but i love poking my head into convos im not involved in lol.

All of this stuff should've been done before the fires. Its not like they were unexpected

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It doesn’t hurt. There are always things to learn and possibly improve, as is illustrated in the linked article below about the Almeda fire in Oregon that I referenced earlier. But these fixes are bandaids when it comes to a wind-driven fire. It might save a few houses, but if people think it will put out these types of fires they are sadly mistaken, as is shown in the video I posted.

Water lines that failed during Almeda Fire to get system improvements

This week, the Oregon State Legislature approved a $3 million grant for fire resiliency improvements to the Talent-Ashland-Phoenix (TAP) system, the joint water line that suffered failures during the Almeda Fire. "As each individual home burned or business burned, those lines were open and...

ktvl.com

So there's no solution and the wholesale destruction from these fires is inevitable. That's sad. JMO.

 

[DS2021]

Lidia fire is 98 percent contained

Lidia Fire | CAL FIRE

www.fire.ca.gov

 

[iamshadow21]

The Getty is evacuating all but emergency staff.

https://www.cnn.com/weather/live-news/los-angeles-wildfires-palisades-eaton-california-01-10-25-hnk#cm5rmkwce00053b6oylmtvhtr

 

[iamshadow21]

Jinghuan Liu Tervalon and her family packed some documents and one night's clothing when they left their Altadena home. They returned to a wasteland. They don't know if they'll rebuild.

https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/live-blog/california-wildfires-live-updates-rcna187099/rcrd67654?canonicalCard=true

 

[Tower]

I would also hope there would be serious discussions about the encroachment of building into areas that cannot be protected from disastrous fires like this, and how to prevent it when people will not be responsible with fire hygiene.

I can’t speak about the policies of every county in California, but my family was evacuated during the Carr, Camp, Butte, and the LNU Lightning Complex fires. These include some of California’s largest wildfires (all in various parts of Northern California).

“California law requires 100 feet of defensible space” around your home. Fire hygiene is not optional in these areas. If you do not maintain your property, your property will be cleared and you will be fined for the cost.

Preparing for Fire Season

 

[Lilibet]

It is valuable for California to start clearing wildlands responsibly as they are already planning to do. It’s a massive and expensive task.

You are absolutely right about clearing wildlands. Here in Southern Oregon my town is nestled up against the Siskiyou mountains. We would be sitting ducks if a fire broke out uphill. The Ashland Forest Resiliency Project has worked for over a decade to clear the forest interface of fuel…brush, dead trees. Every spring when it’s wet enough we see smoke rising above town from their preventive burns. And of course, people who live in or near the interface are strongly encouraged to reduce the fuel around their homes.

https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/roguePres5AshlandChambers.pdf

 

[Herat]

I was thinking about the essentials of my GO bag and I recognized I had not put a spare pair of prescription glasses and lots of extra contact lens pairs.

I would be unable to drive without them and I made the committment to buy a specific pair of glasses and put them with my passport in the GO bag. And maybe buy another pair to have available.

 

[Tower]

Sounds like you're saying no matter what is done this kind of disaster will reoccur in the future.

I find that very disconcerting. JMO.

There are always ways to improve things and make people safer. I am middle-aged and was born in California. Nothing like this ever happened when I was a child. There has been an huge accumulation of wood fuel and very poor maintenance of electrical lines (mostly due to the electrical utility PG&E). All but 2 of the largest fires in California history have occurred since 2000, all but 5 of the top 20 have occurred since 2012.

Jmo