Found Deceased CA - Philip Kreycik, 37, Pleasanton Ridge Regional Park, 10 Jul 2021

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In part perhaps because Philip used it, much of the search has been mapped with Strava. I think the search group also got Strava to message any of its users with activity recorded in the area July 10. I don't know if users of other apps have also been contacted. They don't seem as popular with competitive athletes, but MapMyFitness and AllTrails are used by many other runners/cyclists and hikers.
 
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@ElizabethAnne Thank you for explaining the area in more detail. Interesting there is a BART stop so close too. It sounds from your description it would be pretty unusual if if PK was not picked up on any of the cameras in the surrounding area.
 
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Pleasanton Police say they have searched all areas where missing runner Philip Kreycik could be

PLEASANTON, Calif. (KGO) -- Pleasanton Police went back into the East Bay hills Saturday to continue their search for missing runner Philip Kreycik.

The 38-year-old Berkeley man went for a run in Pleasanton Ridge Regional Park three weeks ago today and he hasn't been seen since.

"We miss our son, so incredibly," Kreycik's mother Marcia Kreycik said. "He's a delightful person, he has such spirit and such love emanates from him. He is just a big hole that we need to have back."

"So now we pretty much 100% covered where he could've been, should've been or would likely show up," Pleasanton Police Lt. Chris Niederhaus said.
 
  • #805
His poor family.
 
  • #806
So sad, in the new interview embedded in the article above, his wife Jen and parents look shattered.

I read there were some who went missing in EB parks who were not found for months or years, if not found quickly.

Has there been clarification of P's movements between the UPS package drop off @ 9am and arrival at PRP @ 10:45 am? Unless there was a significant traffic delay, were there other stops - coffee, etc that would account for the time?
 
  • #807
So sad, in the new interview embedded in the article above, his wife Jen and parents look shattered.

I read there were some who went missing in EB parks who were not found for months or years, if not found quickly.

Has there been clarification of P's movements between the UPS package drop off @ 9am and arrival at PRP @ 10:45 am? Unless there was a significant traffic delay, were there other stops - coffee, etc that would account for the time?

We haven't heard of any significant delays--i.e. a bad accident or anything in the area-- only people who are locals saying the trip should take about 30-45 minutes. Other than a few early articles that referenced LE looking into financials, which could include something as mundane as stopping for coffee, I don't remember anything that could remotely/possibly explain the "missing time." As far as I recall, they never came back and shared anything about PK stopping anywhere except to mail the package. Anything we throw out there is speculation.

Is his home along the route? Maybe he went back for something, or just to rest? Again, if he did go home, stop for coffee or some other errand, I would think he would show up on camera(s) again? Especially given @ElizabethAnne description of the general area and surveillance .
 
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We haven't heard of any significant delays--i.e. a bad accident or anything in the area-- only people who are locals saying the trip should take about 30-45 minutes. Other than a few early articles that referenced LE looking into financials, which could include something as mundane as stopping for coffee, I don't remember anything that could remotely/possibly explain the "missing time." As far as I recall, they never came back and shared anything about PK stopping anywhere except to mail the package. Anything we throw out there is speculation.

Is his home along the route? Maybe he went back for something, or just to rest? Again, if he did go home, stop for coffee or some other errand, I would think he would show up on camera(s) again? Especially given @ElizabethAnne description of the general area and surveillance .

regardless of where you’re going in Oakland, heading home to Berkeley would entail heading back north, the other direction from the 880-237-580 junction that he took to get to Pleasanton. That would certainly eat up some time, perhaps time enough to explain that lost gap. Would there be any evidence of that though? Only traffic cams?
 
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Does anyone know how far cadaver dogs can pick up scents? Like how close does it need for be? I only found data that they can find a body 15 ft underground. I am puzzled that professional dogs haven’t found anything yet.
How Soon After Death Can a Cadaver Dog Detect? (+ How Long)

IMO he is not near the trail or in the park
 
  • #811
No but the text message from the AMA has the question "When are you leaving?" timestamped at 9:18 AM

Then there is no reply until 10:46 AM with a reply back about the ETA being 12:35.

That is a fairly large gap. Don't know if there are text messages between that time that were deleted or why it took an hour and 28 minutes to reply. Or maybe there was a verbal phone conversation between the two timestamps.

Also the press conference referred to the drop off location of the parcel as a 'kiosk.' I don't know what that means and whether that implies a retail store or a drop box only. In one of the press conferences as well the police representative from Pleasanton Lt. Erik Silacci discusses working on firming up the timeline and asks the public to come forward if they saw Philip in the morning parked or driving one to two hours before the incident or sometime that morning. This request is about at minute 21:18 of the press conference that KTVU posted on Youtube-


Because of that request for the public to come forward, in my opinion, it is possible that they cannot yet confirm that Philip was actually the one driving the vehicle that was found parked at the trailhead.
I brought up timeline in an earlier post because of an old podcast I heard on This American Life about Adnan Syed where the investigative journalist reviewed the timeline gaps to possibly rule out his involvement in the murder of his girlfriend. He still is in prison but interesting perspective.
Act One - This American Life
 
  • #812
I found some info regarding cameras in the area in this article.
Pleasanton community steps up to support missing runner's family

From this quote in the article, it appears PK's mother, Marcia, stated that he was not recorded by cameras near exit points. Now, whether that includes the parking lot or not, I don't know.

"Kreycik's wallet and cellphone were found undisturbed inside his vehicle, and he was not recorded on any surveillance cameras near exit points in the park. Marcia told the Weekly that nothing about her son's disappearance makes any sense."

If you haven't read this article, I recommend it. There's quite a bit of info in it.

From information in the article, PK was not recorded by cameras near exit points leaving the park. I assume this means he wasn't seen walking out of the park on these cameras. But could he have been inside the vehicle of someone else who did exit the park?
 
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We haven't heard of any significant delays--i.e. a bad accident or anything in the area-- only people who are locals saying the trip should take about 30-45 minutes. Other than a few early articles that referenced LE looking into financials, which could include something as mundane as stopping for coffee, I don't remember anything that could remotely/possibly explain the "missing time." As far as I recall, they never came back and shared anything about PK stopping anywhere except to mail the package. Anything we throw out there is speculation.

Is his home along the route? Maybe he went back for something, or just to rest? Again, if he did go home, stop for coffee or some other errand, I would think he would show up on camera(s) again? Especially given @ElizabethAnne description of the general area and surveillance .
Previous news reports say that his parents live with him in Berkeley. If he had gone home after the package drop off, I think that his parents would have seen him.

There are not a lot of food eating places other than inside Stoneridge Mall at the I-580 interchange at Foothill Rd. There is a Starbucks one exit up near the Hopyard and I-580 exit on Owens Dr and a drive through Starbucks in a parking lot near the I-580 and Santa Rita exit in a shopping center. For him to do that he would have had to exit then backtrack to get to Foothill Rd.

There is a Noah's bagels (Santa Rita and Valley) and a Bagel Street cafe in a shopping center off of I-680, a different north south freeway, and the Bernal exit, but those are far away. The middle of Pleasanton along I-580 is one large business park called the Hacienda Business Park with tons of office buildings. Shopping centers line the outskirts along Hopyard Rd and Santa Rita road, but if he stopped at one of these prior to going to Foothill Rd, no one has come forward that I have heard about.

Foothill Rd. south of 580 has residential to the west that goes up the slopes heading to Pleasanton Ridge, commercial/office then residential to the east, along with Stoneridge Mall and the BART being nearby. A loop road around Stoneridge Mall has a lot of office buildings and medical buildings.

San Ramon Rd north of 580 in Dublin has more places for food including a local chain called Eriks Delicafe in the Shamrock Village Shopping Center, but they do not open until 11 AM on Saturdays.

Castro Valley is the town along I-580 right before Pleasanton, but I haven't heard of him being spotted there as well. Many people who live along Palomares Rd on the back side of Pleasanton Ridge have Castro Valley addresses. If he took a leisurely tour down the curvy Palomares Rd. Palomares Road - Bay Area Mountain Bike Rides to tour it via car for some reason that might account for a big time gap, but you would have thought that if he had done that, the police would have said something by now.
 
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You mentioned Bay Area Mountain Bike Rides. PK also cycled, right? I'm assuming all of his cycling gear was accounted for? Are there rental bikes in this area? Like the kind a person can just quickly grab?

I'm just thinking aloud a bit of possible ways PK *could* have quickly put some distance from the area other than running, or leaving in a vehicle. Speculation on my part only.
 
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Turtle pond/mariposa trail seems close to a residential house, you’d think he’d walk towards that house versus walk 1hr 30 mins back if he was in trouble. If he headed back to where it’s been extensively searched, you’d think they’d find him by now?
I think those are the houses at the top of the private Santos Ranch Rd. This is a very steep road gated at the bottom off of Foothill Road. One of the houses was built in the early 1990s and was very controversial and started the movement to preserve Pleasanton Ridge. The city of Hayward actually approved them and there are a cluster of them up there.

If Philip had gone south on the North Ridge trail far enough, I believe he would have definitely run into Santos Ranch Rd. and the houses up there.

The Santos Ranch Rd is not shown on the Pleasanton Ridge Park maps on the EBRPD website but that road definitely goes all the way from Foothill Road to the top of Pleasanton Ridge. An aerial view of the North Ridge trail, the Santos Ranch Rd. and a few of the houses is below:
Google Maps
 
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Can someone just refresh my memory on some details:

Were the clothes he was wearing to the parcel shop found in his car?

He was reported to be running with no shirt on, so was a running shirt found in his car also?

Thank you.
 
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You mentioned Bay Area Mountain Bike Rides. PK also cycled, right? I'm assuming all of his cycling gear was accounted for? Are there rental bikes in this area? Like the kind a person can just quickly grab?

I'm just thinking aloud a bit of possible ways PK *could* have quickly put some distance from the area other than running, or leaving in a vehicle. Speculation on my part only.
There are a few bike stores in Pleasanton and Dublin, but I don't know if they rent there. There is a bike store that opens at 10 AM on Saturdays at the I-580 Foothill/San Ramon Rd exit just across the freeway Google Maps about 4 or 5 blocks north of the Moller Ranch Staging area intersection at Foothill Rd/Moller Ranch Dr. It is Trek Bikes and used to be called Livermore Cyclery.
 
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Can someone just refresh my memory on some details:

Were the clothes he was wearing to the parcel shop found in his car?

He was reported to be running with no shirt on, so was a running shirt found in his car also?

Thank you.

CT said the clothes from the parcel shop were in the car. (Scroll back a bit where he replied to people asking about footage from the shop being released. He said it wouldn't help much as they had the clothes, they were in the car. Paraphrashing.) I'm not sure about a running shirt.
 
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Does anyone know how far cadaver dogs can pick up scents? Like how close does it need for be? I only found data that they can find a body 15 ft underground. I am puzzled that professional dogs haven’t found anything yet.
How Soon After Death Can a Cadaver Dog Detect? (+ How Long)

IMO he is not near the trail or in the park

The one thing the article doesn't address is how far the body needs to be from the dog. Clearly, there's an outer limit. 15 feet underground is impressive, but the dog was led to the area where searchers hoped to find remains.

Cadaver-scent behaves differently in various temperatures (it's cooler under ground, scent lasts longer). Here's a somewhat longer look at how the dogs work:

https://digitalcommons.library.umai...&httpsredir=1&article=1024&context=ant_facpub

Very well trained dogs are 95% effective, but there is very little scientific norming of dogs (some are only 30% effective - to find out, a lab has to investigate using controlled conditions, not every cadaver dog has been through that process). The effectiveness rate refers to finding cadaverine on carpet samples in a closed space. Real world effectiveness is less.

Wind, heat and humidity affect the process (heat and dryness make it more difficult for the dog). In fact, if the dogs have to pant, they cannot also smell at the same time.

As the article above states, scent from a cadaver form a cone-shape (if not a lot of wind). With buried bodies, the scent rises and pools at the top of the resulting cone - which is why the dogs can smell it. If it's very warm or hot, air rises more quickly and the top of the cone is way above the dog's head and if it's windy, then it is dispersed.

None of this works if the dog is not taken to a place near where the body is. In Philip's case, the original trail that SAR teams thought he was on is likely not the trail he took (his friend led the search this weekend - in a different place, but they are not SAR people and do not have a trained cadaver dog).

The search already done is a "non-focused speculative search" where the investigators have no clue where the body might be - it's potentially hundreds or even thousands of acres. If there were clear boundaries as to where Philip might be, it would be a Type II search, this is a Type III - the most difficult kind.

In this search, some of the places that Philip may have gone were declared off limits by "grumpy" property owners. This is all notable, because Philip is very likely either on the new trail area or near it or perhaps he crossed a fence into private property (which some have said is common enough to get to certain parts of this area).

The article above talks about what happens when an area is too large and the dog works hard, but finds nothing. The dog begins to lose interest/become bored. If Phil's body were located downhill from a ridge and in some brush/area with trees, that area would need to be carefully searched - and there's a lot of that type of terrain there.

Since the new search is in a different area, I would hope that somehow, they could bring in a cadaver dog for that area. However, I do believe this means that the SAR search must resume.

At the very end of that article, it discusses a known case where there were dead bodies that humans could smell - but the dog did not alert on the bodies (only on a piece of fabric and some hair from one of the bodies). Outdoor searches, in short, are complicated by many factors and some researchers think cadaver dogs are only about 30% effective in Type III kinds of searches (where the boundaries of the search are vague).

So I personally believe Phillip is likely to be near where he said he was going to be.

I hope they can bring back the cadaver dogs to the other areas (including the private property) where they've been searching.
 
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There are a few bike stores in Pleasanton and Dublin, but I don't know if they rent there. There is a bike store that opens at 10 AM on Saturdays at the I-580 Foothill/San Ramon Rd exit just across the freeway Google Maps about 4 or 5 blocks north of the Moller Ranch Staging area. It is Trek Bikes and used to be called Livermore Cyclery.

Nothing at the nearby BART station? Does any part of the metro area have a public bike share system?

I'm really not familiar with the Bay Area. I've travelled quite a bit throughout the US, but not in this part of California.
 
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