CA CA - Phuong Le, 24, Fairfield, 25 April 2010 - #1

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  • #381
The car being unlocked in curious. I wonder if she did that regularly. I would also like to know if she used the key to unlock or the clicker. If she met someone and left with them willingly I do not think she would have left the car unlocked. If she was walking to the car she could have used the clicker as she was walking toward it.
The temperature that night was 65 at 8 o'clock and dropping to 48 degrees.
Just small things that don't add up.
 
  • #382
Reading through Benicia Mom's post again, I am thinking that there was no romantic liaison between Phuong and Thuck. I think he foisted himself upon her and she felt too ashamed to tell her friends and family. Afterall, he was a 'family friend'. Then, she found out she was pregnant. And, she told him on Sunday. That's what she was upset about, it wasn't about having to pass out fliers for her sister.

I was sort of leaning toward this myself, given her reputation from those who know her best. If this were a likely scenario, then her telling him, a possibly violent person (suggestive of a possible forced sexual situation), would have put her in extreme danger. IF LE spoke of any relationship between the 2 of them to his wife, I don't know if she would fess up to anything, as she may likely be aware of his possible violence first hand.
 
  • #383
I just don't see her calling this man if he had assaulted her...that would be the last person i would call anyway..
 
  • #384
I just don't see her calling this man if he had assaulted her...that would be the last person i would call anyway..

You're right - he would be the last person I would call also. sounds like she called him, went into B&N, waited around and maybe met him or ran into him upon leaving B&N. And imo, things went very wrong.
 
  • #385
Phuong is an intelligent woman who just got herself through nursing school and passed the boards to boot! Family, classmates, and friends have given NO indication that she is manipulative, cunning, or seductive. Quite the opposite - she is described as being determined yet gentle, famiy oriented, unobtrusive, and lacking aggressive behavior and street smarts. Certainly she would know how to prevent pregnancy - probably studied the reproductive system ad nauseum.

Maybe LE are suspicious she was raped or that line of questioning never took place and somehow found its way into a reporters hands. Maybe it never was discussed to begin with. And yes, I feel protective of her - and have some difficulty with a few of the suggestions I'm reading. moo

I've lived in South Korea and Vietnam and dated Asian immigrants in the US and they're not stupid. In my opinion, they're generally much better educated than we are in most subjects and they know about condoms and such, but unwanted pregnancies and abortions are rampant nonetheless. It has nothing to do with knowledge or a lack of knowledge of the reproductive system. For starters, condom usage isn't as mainstream in Asian culture as it is here.

Also, Asians are a LOT more class conscious than Westerners and financial status is a more important criterion in selecting a husband with Asians than it is with Westerners, even though it's generally important to women the world over. It sounds like the suspect is financially successful and Miss Le had career and financial concerns.

And not that Miss Le had a physical relationship with the suspect, but women are often expected to put out for the bosses a lot more in East Asian cultures moreso than in other cultures, and in a lot of salons in Vietnam, South Korea, and the Asian salons in the US, the girls are often expected to provide sexual services to customers. Odds are, the salon where Miss Le worked wasn't a front for prostitution, since most of the Vietnamese salons in the USA actually do have very skilled workers, particularly nail technicians.

There are so many possibilities of what could've happened here.

Personally, I doubt she was even pregnant. After all, how would law enforcement know? Even if the suspect or Miss Le's relatives said it was true, that wouldn't necessarily make it true.
 
  • #386
KTVU reporting tonight on the 10 O'Clock News:
Police served two search warrants, one at the home of Nguyen, and one at the Postal Express business. They were served on Friday night, at about the same time as the vigil. They also had police at the vigil, taking photos.
Nothing about anyone being pregnant.
Police I think took computers.
The family doesn't think Nguyen has anything to do with her disappearance. She worked for him over two years ago, before she quit and went to nursing school.
 
  • #387
Phuong did NOT work at a salon. She worked at Postal Express, they do printing and copying and stuff. Whoever said she worked at a 'salon'?

Also, what if the police found one of those pregnancy test thingies, maybe in the wastebasket in her bedroom at her home? Or, maybe in her purse? Dunno.
 
  • #388
Phuong did NOT work at a salon. She worked at Postal Express, they do printing and copying and stuff. Whoever said she worked at a 'salon'?

Also, what if the police found one of those pregnancy test thingies, maybe in the wastebasket in her bedroom at her home? Or, maybe in her purse? Dunno.

Phuong's sister had her doing some marketing work for her salon. At Postal Express, her boss had been Mr. Nguyen.
 
  • #389
KTVU reporting tonight on the 10 O'Clock News:
Police served two search warrants, one at the home of Nguyen, and one at the Postal Express business. They were served on Friday night, at about the same time as the vigil. They also had police at the vigil, taking photos.
Nothing about anyone being pregnant.
Police I think took computers.
The family doesn't think Nguyen has anything to do with her disappearance. She worked for him over two years ago, before she quit and went to nursing school.

thank you - this is important information. In order to get search warrants LE had to have probable cause, enough so that they could convince a judge to sign off on the warrants. Wonder what LE think they have - hope it turns out to be significant. Both places, his home and work. wow! moo
 
  • #390
Tomorrow we are having another search party for Phuong. Sunday Search Party
Meeting at Barnes and Noble, 600 Gateway Blvd, Fairfield, Ca 94533,
9:30-TBD.

We do not know what or how this has happened to our friend, Phuong, but we fear the worse. Thank you to all of you for your good thoughts. No one deserves what has happened to Phuong, but least of all Phuong. She is one of the sweetest people you would ever meet. She is sincere, honest and responsible. She worked harder than any of us to achieve the licensure of Registered Nurse. If you live in the area and are inclined to help, know we need all of the help we can get.
 
  • #391
Good morning everyone .... thinking of Phuong ... for some reason, she's on my mind allot, probably because she's so small and looks so vulnerable.

God be with her.
 
  • #392
This statement is in the article nurse just posted and has been in several recently:

Investigators said there is no indication that anyone wanted to harm Le and friends did not think she was involved with any boyfriends.

How does that fit with the info just reported about the ex-boss?

If he's innocent, and there was no 'affair'... dayum. Talk about dragging someone through the mud.
 
  • #393
If suggesting pregnancy was a ploy, then I'd think they'd say that to him, not his wife. Why upset the wife? And potentially put her in danger?

I guess that's really what I'm not getting. Why they said it to his wife.

And seems to me he'd have a case should he want to sue. If cops are going to drop a bombshell like that, they better be damn sure they know what they're talking about. I don't see them using something like THIS as a 'ploy'.
 
  • #394
KTVU reporting tonight on the 10 O'Clock News:
Police served two search warrants, one at the home of Nguyen, and one at the Postal Express business. They were served on Friday night, at about the same time as the vigil. They also had police at the vigil, taking photos.
Nothing about anyone being pregnant.
Police I think took computers.
The family doesn't think Nguyen has anything to do with her disappearance. She worked for him over two years ago, before she quit and went to nursing school.
glad to see another source reporting this. Wonder what the probable cause is? They have to have one....
 
  • #395
glad to see another source reporting this. Wonder what the probable cause is? They have to have one....

The article you linked to a couple of pages back appears to have been edited a bit.

Nguyen told us his life has been a wreck since the search and that investigators went as far as to tell his wife that he got Phuong pregnant, something that he also said is just *not true.


It seems rather outrageous that police would tell the wife Phuong Le was impregnated by Nguyen; but I can see police interviewing his wife about a possible 'affair' between the two. So I wonder.... maybe that was his take on what they said. A slip of the tongue, so to speak. Just maybe he admitted to more than what he was accused of...
 
  • #396
glad to see another source reporting this. Wonder what the probable cause is? They have to have one....

Could the probable cause be just that he was the last person she called? I'm not sure how those things work, just asking. :blushing:
 
  • #397
Could the probable cause be just that he was the last person she called? I'm not sure how those things work, just asking. :blushing:

I'm thinking that plus what may have been found in a search of her room and computer. Also, LE has been pretty tight-lipped about her being caught on any security video, in the lot or elsewhere.

I wonder... does the Postal Express have security cameras?
 
  • #398
I'm thinking that plus what may have been found in a search of her room and computer. Also, LE has been pretty tight-lipped about her being caught on any security video, in the lot or elsewhere.

I wonder... does the Postal Express have security cameras?

I was wondering that too... that would certainly be interesting to LE if they do!
 
  • #399
I was wondering that too... that would certainly be interesting to LE if they do!

I know they're closed on Sundays, but perhaps they have video of her there before.
 
  • #400
Could the probable cause be just that he was the last person she called? I'm not sure how those things work, just asking. :blushing:

I've never heard of that being used as probable cause. Being the last person to talk on the phone to someone before their disappearance used as probable cause for a search warrant would, I'm sure, result in quite a legal ruckus. ACLU would love it.

Inferring probable cause: Obtaining a search warrant for a suspect's home without direct information that evidence is inside - Legal Digest

FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin,The, Feb, 2002

To search a residence for evidence of a crime, an officer must have probable cause to believe that the evidence is inside the home.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_2_71/ai_83794813/


Search Warrants: What They Are and When They're Necessary
Learn when police officers must obtain a warrant before they search your home or other property.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/article-29742.html


probable cause
The amount and quality of information police must have before they can search or arrest without a warrant. Most of the time, police must present their probable cause to a judge or majistrate, whom they ask for a search or arrest warrant. Information is reliable if it shows that it's more likely than not that a crime has occurred and the evidence sought exists at the place named in the search warrant, or that the suspect named in the arrest warrant has committed a crime.
http://www.nolo.com/dictionary/probable-cause-term.html
 
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