CA CA - Sandra McCarty, 8-months & Whisper Owen, 36, Endangered Advisory, silver 2006 Chev Trailblazer, last seen N Glenn & E Yale, Fresno, 15 Jul 2025

[tlcya]

what a sad end to this case. RIP Whisper and Sandra

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957507582072852976

 

[Soulmagent]

I agree, but in this case I think because they have been working with her brother, it was more for his benefit than

He really must have a great passion (and heart!!) for helping people, to be able to do those dives. I can’t imagine what terrible things he sees & endures. I have an incredible respect for recovery- and crisisdivers. What a gruesome & lonely job down there. Thanks to all people out there for putting yourself out there for loved ones you don’t know.

anything else. Know what I mean?

Before these guys, the ones who brought attention to the huge need for the people doing this job, there wasn't much for hope . I am glad these guys are helping make people aware . So many families have gotten their loved ones back because of their life paths. Got to respect the crap outa that.

 

[Knox]

Her family believes law enforcement did not take their concerns seriously from the very beginning.

“Honestly, I don’t know how to feel,” said her brother, Richard Owen. Her believes it should not have taken this long to find his sister and her baby.

“I asked for cooperation from law enforcement a month ago.”

‘No real cooperation’: Whisper Owen’s brother slams search efforts after SUV found in canal

After the search for Whisper Owen and her 8-month-old daughter came to an end, the family is criticizing law enforcement for not taking their concerns seriously and for the lack of cooperation in t…

www.yourcentralvalley.com

 

[Knox]

Owen says the family was devastated to hear what they felt were dismissive responses early in the investigation.

“I hope law enforcement never again tells somebody, ‘Well, maybe they just don’t want to be found,’ or ‘Maybe they decided to take a break from you guys.’”

According to the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Office, the Whisper Owen case spanned four counties — Fresno, Merced, Stanislaus, and San Joaquin — complicating jurisdiction.

“It gets a little complicated in a sense,” said Heather Brent with the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Office.

‘No real cooperation’: Whisper Owen’s brother slams search efforts after SUV found in canal

After the search for Whisper Owen and her 8-month-old daughter came to an end, the family is criticizing law enforcement for not taking their concerns seriously and for the lack of cooperation in t…

www.yourcentralvalley.com

A little complicated? That’s their job, LE should be equipped to handle a multi-jurisdictional investigation. Not uncommon at all. I think they are embarrassed because AWP found Whisper and Sandra - just like Kiely Rodni …

 

[Soulmagent]

Owen says the family was devastated to hear what they felt were dismissive responses early in the investigation.

“I hope law enforcement never again tells somebody, ‘Well, maybe they just don’t want to be found,’ or ‘Maybe they decided to take a break from you guys.’”

According to the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Office, the Whisper Owen case spanned four counties — Fresno, Merced, Stanislaus, and San Joaquin — complicating jurisdiction.

“It gets a little complicated in a sense,” said Heather Brent with the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Office.

‘No real cooperation’: Whisper Owen’s brother slams search efforts after SUV found in canal

After the search for Whisper Owen and her 8-month-old daughter came to an end, the family is criticizing law enforcement for not taking their concerns seriously and for the lack of cooperation in t…

www.yourcentralvalley.com

A little complicated? That’s their job, LE should be equipped to handle a multi-jurisdictional investigation. Not uncommon at all. I think they are embarrassed because AWP found Whisper and Sandra - just like Kiely Rodni …

I posted cords really close to where she was found on Wednesday.
It was a really obvious place. With the last ping information , all they had to do is look at a map and rely that to the local she was found in.
"hey can you guys check this out for us"
That simple.
It is maddening

 

[jillolantern]

Sometimes they talk too much. Why did they need to say all that so soon?

Why are you against this?

 

[jillolantern]

A little complicated? That’s their job, LE should be equipped to handle a multi-jurisdictional investigation.

100%

 

[Soulmagent]

Why are you against this?

I am not really , I just felt the commentary on how she tried to escape with the baby was a bit to soon. Knox pointed out it was probably on behaves of the family .
I just feel like it could have waited until the family processes . Other wise I am just as on board with people talking as everyone else.

 

[jillolantern]

I am not really , I just felt the commentary on how she tried to escape with the baby was a bit to soon. Knox pointed out it was probably on behaves of the family .
I just feel like it could have waited until the family processes . Other wise I am just as on board with people talking as everyone else.

You understood the point was positive toward Whisper, right?

 

[Judy Sleuth]

You understood the point was positive toward Whisper, right?

Indeed, when I read the statement by AWP, my first thought was that perhaps it was to help shut down rumors about intentional harm/foul play by Whisper. There seemed already to be a fair amount of those circulating, in my opinion, and I interpreted the AWP statement about her doing everything she could to save her baby as an attempt to comfort the family that Whisper had not tried to deliberately harm herself and Sandra. And also to squash the hurtful rumors and the tarnish to her memory as quickly as possible.

 

[mickey2942]

I don't want to "victim blame" here, but we all pointed out earlier, that it seemed like an extremely long day, 4 am she left her home, had a busy day of appointment, visiting family, and left at 9 pm, with only one headlight on her car, and avoided the CA-99, which is a straight shot from Fresno to Elk Grove. Even the I-5, is a bit further west, is a straight road, with a fast lane to Elk Grove area.

It is sad, that people push themselves, and don't take more time to sleep, rest, and do try to avoid travel at night. It is more likely to hit animals out, just isn't worth it.

 

[TMich6811]

I don't want to "victim blame" here, but we all pointed out earlier, that it seemed like an extremely long day, 4 am she left her home, had a busy day of appointment, visiting family, and left at 9 pm, with only one headlight on her car, and avoided the CA-99, which is a straight shot from Fresno to Elk Grove. Even the I-5, is a bit further west, is a straight road, with a fast lane to Elk Grove area.

It is sad, that people push themselves, and don't take more time to sleep, rest, and do try to avoid travel at night. It is more likely to hit animals out, just isn't worth it.

There’s still so much unknown about her time

 

[Soulmagent]

You understood the point was positive toward Whisper, right?

Yes, but I still, did not want to have the image of her trying to claw her way out of the car with her baby, so soon.
Knowing she probably could have saved herself, but did not.

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes, but I still, did not want to have the image of her trying to claw her way out of the car with her baby, so soon.
Knowing she probably could have saved herself, but did not.

I agree. It was too soon to announce that very vivid detail when I'm not even sure LE had publicly announced the finding yet? Any commentary, imo, should be after LE makes the public announcement (and certainly after information is relayed to the family so they don't learn via media reports).

Even if that protocal was followed (which I don't know it was), and even if the commentary shows the victim in a good light, the timing was for sensational effect, imo. Even as a stranger, I found it jarring to be mentioned just as people were finding out they were located.

Everyone has an opinion - and I have mine, with the understanding others don't share it.

jmopinion

 

[Knox]

Indeed, when I read the statement by AWP, my first thought was that perhaps it was to help shut down rumors about intentional harm/foul play by Whisper. There seemed already to be a fair amount of those circulating, in my opinion, and I interpreted the AWP statement about her doing everything she could to save her baby as an attempt to comfort the family that Whisper had not tried to deliberately harm herself and Sandra. And also to squash the hurtful rumors and the tarnish to her memory as quickly as possible.

I think you’re right on target.

 

[Soulmagent]

Sandra is a beautiful name .

Indeed, when I read the statement by AWP, my first thought was that perhaps it was to help shut down rumors about intentional harm/foul play by Whisper. There seemed already to be a fair amount of those circulating, in my opinion, and I interpreted the AWP statement about her doing everything she could to save her baby as an attempt to comfort the family that Whisper had not tried to deliberately harm herself and Sandra. And also to squash the hurtful rumors and the tarnish to her memory as quickly as possible.

Sure , AWP, They got a history.
When what ever , and what knots.
They just talk to much sometimes. IMO