CA - School Shooting in San Bernardino

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Thanks CARIIS :wave: (Bookmarking):

Gunman’s Violent Past
TUE, APR 11
NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt

"Although the gunman’s Facebook page was filled with loving posts about Karen Smith, his estranged wife who he killed Monday, her family said she had gone into hiding because she was terrified of him."

:(
I wonder if she'd informed the school of what was going on. Maybe the police would have been called immediately upon his arrival to the school. Probably wouldn't have saved any lives but IDK.

I was a classroom teacher when my son's father (and murderer) was released from prison. I gave my school a head's up.

Such a sad tragic case.
:(
 
  • #142
Can you please explain and elaborate more? I know you've mentioned this in other threads and I'd like to know more about this. Tia. :wave:

Some links about injustice collectors/grudge holders.

The Dangerous Injustice Collector: Behaviors of Someone Who Never Forgets, Never Forgives, Never Lets Go, and Strikes Back!
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.1509

Psychology of Terrorism - National Criminal Justice Reference Service
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.PDF

Identifying The Next Mass Murderer—Before It’s Too Late
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ntifying-the-next-mass-murderer-it-s-too-late

On Wound Collectors
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201509/wound-collectors

Murderous Envy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/keeping-kids-safe/200905/murderous-envy

Injustice Collectors
http://www.psybersquare.com/family/family_injustice.html

1.) Injustice Collectors are convinced that they are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It is simple: They are always right.

2.) Injustice Collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3.) Injustice Collectors truly believe that they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others chronically do not hold themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4.) Injustice Collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combined legislator, police, and judge and jury of

5.) Injustice Collectors never worry about what is wrong with themselves as their "bad list" grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6.) Injustice Collectors are never upset by the disparity of their rules for others with their own expectations of themselves.

7.) Injustice Collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

Here are more with 20 characteristics
http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/11/25/are-they-injustice-collector

Characteristics of Injustice Collectors

1. Injustice collectors are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It's simple: They are always right.

2. Injustice collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3. Injustice collectors truly believe they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others seem incapable of holding themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4. Injustice collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combination of legislator, police, judge and jury to those they consider their subjects. They forever banish from their kingdom any subject they deem disloyal, and only grant clemency if there is sufficient (in their eyes) contrition.

5. Injustice collectors never worry about what is wrong with them as their "bad" list grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6. Injustice collectors are never troubled by the disparity between their rules for others and their own expectations of themselves. Injustice collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

7. Injustice collectors have an external orientation; the problem always exists in the world, outside of themselves, and in their view, the world would be an acceptable place if their rules and standards were followed at all times.

8. Injustice collectors do not have a capacity for remorse, empathy or guilt.

9. Injustice collectors scoff at the idea of therapy, therapists, self-help books, and other tools used by people who struggle to live with them.

10. The phrase "walking on eggshells" describes life with an injustice collector.

11. The IC (injustice Collector) will prey upon your weaknesses to frame all issues in their terms.

12. IC's will always cry foul when you are 'mean' to them and accuse you of being nasty when you are confronting them with their negative behavior.

13. They are titanically insecure and cannot trust anyone. All relationships they have, even with their own parents and children and trustless and must be reinforced by subordination over and over.

14. They can only strengthen relationships through imprisoning their mates and banning behaviors and other relationships. Friends and family are a huge threat to the IC.

15. They must repetitively revisit situations where you service them, give in to them and agree with them. They will over time shrink your world to a small plot of empty activities that only they like. They are terrified of travel, meeting new people, understanding new concepts and paroling you from any punishment they have previously 'convicted' you of.

16. They do not care about you at all, they care about aggrandizing themselves with you as an assistant producer.

17. They will occasionally do something for you, but if you are not completely brainwashed, it will be a negative experience for you in the end. Example is throwing you a birthday party. I guarantee you will not have fun at your own party.

18. They will force you to choose between them and other things you like or love. The more you choose them, the more they will make you choose them over and over. They do not understand the concept of loyalty at all.

19. Hypocrisy is their modus operandi for debating and arguing with you. Everything they say about you is true about them. (aka Projection) It makes it so you try to 'win' fights by getting them to agree with you, which they never can because their whole position is false.

20. Your life will disappear into their lives. Your hopes and dreams will fade, even in your own mind. You will eat what they want, you will watch what they want on TV, you will vacation where they want, or not at all.

Websleuth Radio Interview Of Tina Meier describing Lori Drew
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/09/30/tricias-true-crime-radio-adult-cyber-bullying

Starting at the 20:40 mark from September 2013. Tina Meier is describing Lori Drew as a very talkative person who complained nonstop. She is described as a very unhappy and bitter person. Meier's description of Drew is an injustice collector.

They are usually mass murderers and terrorists.

Examples Of Injustice Collectors

Mass Murderer/Spree Killer/Terrorists
Chris Mercer
Mark Barton
Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold
Charles Whitman
Andrew Kehoe
James Huberty
Jack Gilbert Graham
David Burke
John Mohammed/Lee Boyd Malvo
Elliot Rodger
Aaron Alexis
Adam Lanza
Seung-Hui Cho
Julio Gonzalez
Tsarnaev Brothers
Kouachi Brothers/Amedy Coulibaly
Ted Kaczynski
Micah Johnson
Gavin Long
Dylann Roof
Tashfeen Malik and Syed Farook
Omar Mateen
Anders Breivik
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
Abdelhamid Abaaoud
Timothy McVeigh/Terry Nichols
Jim Jones
Osama bin Laden
9/11 Terrorists
Abubakar Shekau
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Serial Killers
John Wayne Gacy
Todd Kohlhepp
Jeffrey Dahmer
Aileen Wuornos
David Berkowitz
Dean Corll
Andrew Cunanan
Theresa Knorr

Non-Mass Killer
Lori Drew
Gertrude Baniszewski
Elisa Baker
Kayla Narey
Jennifer Petkov
Jodi Arias
Dora Cisneros
Casey Anthony
Yoselyn Ortega
Gyulchehra Bobokulova
Nicole Finn
Christy Sheats
Betty Broderick
Vester Flanagan
 
  • #143
It appears everybody that does wrong is a injustice collector. Jmo
 
  • #144
Some links about injustice collectors/grudge holders.

The Dangerous Injustice Collector: Behaviors of Someone Who Never Forgets, Never Forgives, Never Lets Go, and Strikes Back!
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.1509

Psychology of Terrorism - National Criminal Justice Reference Service
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.PDF

Identifying The Next Mass Murderer—Before It’s Too Late
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ntifying-the-next-mass-murderer-it-s-too-late

On Wound Collectors
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201509/wound-collectors

Murderous Envy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/keeping-kids-safe/200905/murderous-envy

Injustice Collectors
http://www.psybersquare.com/family/family_injustice.html

1.) Injustice Collectors are convinced that they are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It is simple: They are always right.

2.) Injustice Collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3.) Injustice Collectors truly believe that they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others chronically do not hold themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4.) Injustice Collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combined legislator, police, and judge and jury of

5.) Injustice Collectors never worry about what is wrong with themselves as their "bad list" grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6.) Injustice Collectors are never upset by the disparity of their rules for others with their own expectations of themselves.

7.) Injustice Collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

Here are more with 20 characteristics
http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/11/25/are-they-injustice-collector

Characteristics of Injustice Collectors

1. Injustice collectors are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It's simple: They are always right.

2. Injustice collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3. Injustice collectors truly believe they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others seem incapable of holding themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4. Injustice collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combination of legislator, police, judge and jury to those they consider their subjects. They forever banish from their kingdom any subject they deem disloyal, and only grant clemency if there is sufficient (in their eyes) contrition.

5. Injustice collectors never worry about what is wrong with them as their "bad" list grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6. Injustice collectors are never troubled by the disparity between their rules for others and their own expectations of themselves. Injustice collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

7. Injustice collectors have an external orientation; the problem always exists in the world, outside of themselves, and in their view, the world would be an acceptable place if their rules and standards were followed at all times.

8. Injustice collectors do not have a capacity for remorse, empathy or guilt.

9. Injustice collectors scoff at the idea of therapy, therapists, self-help books, and other tools used by people who struggle to live with them.

10. The phrase "walking on eggshells" describes life with an injustice collector.

11. The IC (injustice Collector) will prey upon your weaknesses to frame all issues in their terms.

12. IC's will always cry foul when you are 'mean' to them and accuse you of being nasty when you are confronting them with their negative behavior.

13. They are titanically insecure and cannot trust anyone. All relationships they have, even with their own parents and children and trustless and must be reinforced by subordination over and over.

14. They can only strengthen relationships through imprisoning their mates and banning behaviors and other relationships. Friends and family are a huge threat to the IC.

15. They must repetitively revisit situations where you service them, give in to them and agree with them. They will over time shrink your world to a small plot of empty activities that only they like. They are terrified of travel, meeting new people, understanding new concepts and paroling you from any punishment they have previously 'convicted' you of.

16. They do not care about you at all, they care about aggrandizing themselves with you as an assistant producer.

17. They will occasionally do something for you, but if you are not completely brainwashed, it will be a negative experience for you in the end. Example is throwing you a birthday party. I guarantee you will not have fun at your own party.

18. They will force you to choose between them and other things you like or love. The more you choose them, the more they will make you choose them over and over. They do not understand the concept of loyalty at all.

19. Hypocrisy is their modus operandi for debating and arguing with you. Everything they say about you is true about them. (aka Projection) It makes it so you try to 'win' fights by getting them to agree with you, which they never can because their whole position is false.

20. Your life will disappear into their lives. Your hopes and dreams will fade, even in your own mind. You will eat what they want, you will watch what they want on TV, you will vacation where they want, or not at all.

Websleuth Radio Interview Of Tina Meier describing Lori Drew
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/09/30/tricias-true-crime-radio-adult-cyber-bullying

Starting at the 20:40 mark from September 2013. Tina Meier is describing Lori Drew as a very talkative person who complained nonstop. She is described as a very unhappy and bitter person. Meier's description of Drew is an injustice collector.

They are usually mass murderers and terrorists.

Examples Of Injustice Collectors

Mass Murderer/Spree Killer/Terrorists
Chris Mercer
Mark Barton
Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold
Charles Whitman
Andrew Kehoe
James Huberty
Jack Gilbert Graham
David Burke
John Mohammed/Lee Boyd Malvo
Elliot Rodger
Aaron Alexis
Adam Lanza
Seung-Hui Cho
Julio Gonzalez
Tsarnaev Brothers
Kouachi Brothers/Amedy Coulibaly
Ted Kaczynski
Micah Johnson
Gavin Long
Dylann Roof
Tashfeen Malik and Syed Farook
Omar Mateen
Anders Breivik
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
Abdelhamid Abaaoud
Timothy McVeigh/Terry Nichols
Jim Jones
Osama bin Laden
9/11 Terrorists
Abubakar Shekau
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Serial Killers
John Wayne Gacy
Todd Kohlhepp
Jeffrey Dahmer
Aileen Wuornos
David Berkowitz
Dean Corll
Andrew Cunanan
Theresa Knorr

Non-Mass Killer
Lori Drew
Gertrude Baniszewski
Elisa Baker
Kayla Narey
Jennifer Petkov
Jodi Arias
Dora Cisneros
Casey Anthony
Yoselyn Ortega
Gyulchehra Bobokulova
Nicole Finn
Christy Sheats
Betty Broderick
Vester Flanagan

Thank you, HMSHood.

Looks like we've got another one who just struck in Cleveland, Steven Stephens, who just randomly killed the poor old man in the name of his ex (and streamed it on facebook. :(

Thread:

Cleveland Police seeking suspect Steven Stephens in Facebook Live homicide
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ect-Steven-Stephens-in-Facebook-Live-homicide


Eta: Re: #2, SS posted on his IG "No Remorse."
 
  • #145
San Bernardino school to reopen after deadly classroom shooting
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...-school-reopens-shootings-20170417-story.html

"North Park Elementary School is reopening Monday, a week after a deadly shooting on the San Bernardino campus.

In a video message, Dale Marsden, superintendent for the San Bernardino City Unified School District, said teachers and staff had expressed a desire to return to campus and resume classes. The district encouraged its employees to wear red Monday in support of North Park students and staff.

“As you know our children need us now more than ever,” he said. “We’re their role models, teachers, companions, support. We’ll endure and make it through this heartbreaking ordeal together as a family. We need to draw strength from each other and find ways each day to find hope, strength and encouragement to our entire North Park community and the city San Bernardino.”

Students and teachers will have access to crisis counselors as well as assistance of additional personnel."
 
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"Anyone who wishes to visit North Park Elementary School will not be allowed in without answering questions.

"If they have business that they have to attend to, they will have to be buzzed in," Principal Yadira Downing said.

Linda Bardere, with the San Bernardino Unified School District, said visitors will have to push a buzzer before being let into the main office. A small monitor at the secretary desk lets the school official see who is at the door and ask questions about the person's visit."

http://abc7.com/news/san-bernardino-school-tightens-security-after-campus-shooting/1879077/
 
  • #149
"In addition to the buzzer, North Park installed a system that will enable officials to take photos of visitors and then print out an ID badge. School officials said parents, students and staff are looking forward to hitting the books again.

"We absolutely want the young students to feel comfortable. This is their home - they've missed being here, they've missed seeing their friends. We're just trying to get back to normal," Bardere said.

Counselors and additional staff members will be at the campus to provide any needed support when the school reopens Monday."

http://abc7.com/news/san-bernardino-school-tightens-security-after-campus-shooting/1879077/
 
  • #150
Thank you, HMSHood.

Looks like we've got another one who just struck in Cleveland, Steven Stephens, who just randomly killed the poor old man in the name of his ex (and streamed it on facebook. :(

Thread:

Cleveland Police seeking suspect Steven Stephens in Facebook Live homicide
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ect-Steven-Stephens-in-Facebook-Live-homicide


Eta: Re: #2, SS posted on his IG "No Remorse."

I was thinking the exact same thing. Steve Stephen is an injustice collector. I saw his video manifesto and he plays victim like seen in other killers.
 
  • #151
Marking my radio to listen to Tricia's True Crime Radio tonight, who will have a renown author and expert on shootings/school shootings. Will find post and bump.

Link (also on WS home page):
(Tonight 8:00 PM Eastern on Websleuths Radio)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2017/04/19/websleuths-radio-the-facebook-murder

ETA: Info about tonight's guest:
https://schoolshooters.info/about-dr-langman

"About Dr. Langman

Peter Langman, Ph.D., is a sought-after expert on the psychology of school shooters. He conducts trainings on understanding the psychology of school shooters and identifying potential school shooters for professionals in mental health, education, and law enforcement. He has spoken at the FBI National Academy in Quantico, VA, been hired by Homeland Security to train professionals in the United States, and been recruited by the State Department to speak to international audiences.

Dr. Langman served on Pennsylvania’s Joint State Government Commission’s Advisory Committee on Violence Prevention. In the wake of the Sandy Hook attack, his recommendations on preventing school shootings were presented by the CEO of the American Psychological Association to President Obama. His research on school shooters has been cited in congressional testimony on Capitol Hill.

Dr. Langman’s new book, School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators, was published in January 2015. His previous book, Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters, was named an Outstanding Academic Title of 2009 by the American Library Association. It has been translated into German, Finnish, and Dutch.

Dr. Langman has been interviewed over three hundred times by media outlets in the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, Asia, and the Middle East. He has appeared on The Today Show, 20/20, CBS, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, NPR, Fox, and the BBC. His research on school shooters has been featured in articles carried by The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Forbes, USA Today, Christian Science Monitor, Yahoo News, and thousands of other news outlets.

Dr. Langman writes a blog for Psychology Today. In 2008, Dr. Langman received the Psychology in the Media Award from the Pennsylvania Psychological Association for his work on educating the public about school shooters and school safety. In 2012, he was given the Sally K. Lenhardt Professional Leadership Award by Lesley University for his research and work on preventing school shootings. In 2016, he was the recipient of the Innovation in Research and Publication Award from the National Behavioral Intervention Team Association for his article “Multi-Victim School Shootings in the United States: A 50-Year Review.”

In addition to his research on school shootings, Dr. Langman is president of the Greater Lehigh Valley chapter of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) and served three years on the board of the Lehigh Valley chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). He serves on the editorial board for the Journal of Campus Behavioral Intervention and on the advisory board of the National Behavioral Intervention Team Association (NaBITA).

Dr. Langman received his B.A. in psychology from Clark University, his M.A. in counseling psychology from Lesley College, and his Ph.D. in counseling psychology from Lehigh University.

Dr. Langman’s first book, Jewish Issues in Multiculturalism, was hailed as “a landmark contribution” to multicultural studies. In addition to being a psychologist, Dr. Langman is a poet and playwright. View information about his plays. View his poetry book,The Last Days of John Keats and Other Poems."
 

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