CA - Sergio Aguiar, 2, beaten to death, Turlock, 14 June 2008

[southcitymom]

And praise Jesus because I had him pegged as the guy.

I know! It made me chuckle, though there is of course nothing funny about this horrible case.

 

[cathieq]

I think this is his pic....

or if it doesn't work, go to the link below:

The Modeso Bee
http://tinyurl.com/3s5tlm

 

[Taximom]

That latest Modesto Bee article spells his last name "Aguiar".

 

[Taximom]

Thanks for the picture, cathieq. :blowkiss:

 

[cathieq]

This part is unbelievable (from the Modesto link)...

...Aguiar also said, "Look how they make toys now," McKain said, and at one point asked Robinson for a knife.

When Robinson went into the pickup truck to turn on the hazard lights, Aguiar stopped kicking the boy, helped him find the flashers, then went back to his attack, McKain said. She said there was blood in the truck's cab...

Wouldn't this have been the time for the onlookers to jump him? I just can't believe this....

 

[cathieq]

from same article;

...McKain said her son, her son's wife and her son's friend were also there, as were a woman and a man who pulled up in separate cars. She estimated that she saw Aguiar kick or stomp his son at least 100 times, but she said no one tried to stop him because he appeared to be dangerous. One fear was that "maybe he had something in his pocket," she said....

I really, really wanted to have faith in the onlookers. They tried the best they could...but after reading this...I think I better take a break now...

 

[Filly]

from same article;

...McKain said her son, her son's wife and her son's friend were also there, as were a woman and a man who pulled up in separate cars. She estimated that she saw Aguiar kick or stomp his son at least 100 times, but she said no one tried to stop him because he appeared to be dangerous. One fear was that "maybe he had something in his pocket," she said....

I really, really wanted to have faith in the onlookers. They tried the best they could...but after reading this...I think I better take a break now...

Wow. Yes, thank you Cathie for the updates. That guy looks so young. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. I know police officers who try and apprehend guys who are so whacked and they have super human strength it takes a few of them with black jacks and all to get them subdued. People that bust out of cop car windows and all. I'd like to think they did all they could these people. Unless we're there I don't think we could fathom.

It's just all so devastatingly sad.

 

[kline]

Can you imagine standing by and doing nothing while someone stomped a toddler to death because YOU might get hurt?
Anybody of the male gender who did that has forfieted the right to be numbered amongst the men.
And no,I dont have to have been there to know that.
Good.Lord.

 

[IdahoMom]

I really, really wanted to have faith in the onlookers. They tried the best they could...but after reading this...I think I better take a break now...

From another article, I found this:

snip

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9606469?source=most_emailed


It's unclear when the beating began, but the first 911 call came at just after 10:13 p.m. It was from someone named Mike, who may be Robinson's son, Singh said. He gave just a brief description before the cell phone went dead.
By then, Robinson had confronted Aguiar and "was trying to get him to stop, trying to pull him off, or away from the baby," Singh said. "The suspect just pushed him away and continued doing what he was doing."
A minute later, at 10:14 p.m., a pickup truck with three people in their 20s pulled up, facing Aguiar's truck. One of them called 911. A young man, who Singh hasn't identified, jumped out and ran to help Robinson.
"It was the shock of seeing what was going on, seeing this person with hands bloodied," said Singh, who was on the scene as the witnesses were interviewed. "At first they weren't sure how to react. You walk upon that scene and you see it and it's like, 'What are you doing?' It's like, "What the heck are you doing?' " The two men wrestled with Aguiar, trying to get him to stop, trying to pull him away from the baby. But Aguiar, with the child in his arm, kept attacking the toddler, "punching, slapping, shaking," Singh said.

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In my opinion, the only person at this point that deserves blame of any sort is the deranged father. From what I have gathered from various sources, 1 or 2 of the people that stopped were elderly and at least 1 was a girl in her early 20s, too.

 

[IdahoMom]

Can you imagine standing by and doing nothing while someone stomped a toddler to death because YOU might get hurt?
Anybody of the male gender who did that has forfieted the right to be numbered amongst the men.
And no,I dont have to have been there to know that.
Good.Lord.

Should the elderly man have stepped in?

 

[MistyM]

sounds to me like they were all running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

they all should have went for that baby and tried to get him off of him. it's not like there was just two elderly people there. that was someone's little boy. i would be REALLY pissed off if that was my child and i found out people were just sporadically taking turns going at the guy and not working together to stop it.

"wow let's just stand here and watch in horror... derr..."

and he stopped to turn the hazards on his truck and no one ran to get the child?

*sigh* i guess it was one of those 'you had to be there' moments. i can't understand it. maybe it's shock or something.

 

[Kiki]

I just pray that the first blow sent that poor baby into shock. Hopefully he didn't have time to be fully aware of what was happening to him.

 

[kline]

Should the elderly man have stepped in?

I know many elderly men and if your from idaho like me ill bet you do too,who would have been the first one on the pile regardless in that situation.

 

[Floh]

Can you imagine standing by and doing nothing while someone stomped a toddler to death because YOU might get hurt?
Anybody of the male gender who did that has forfieted the right to be numbered amongst the men.
And no,I dont have to have been there to know that.
Good.Lord.

I have to agree.

 

[Floh]

From another article, I found this:

snip

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9606469?source=most_emailed


It's unclear when the beating began, but the first 911 call came at just after 10:13 p.m. It was from someone named Mike, who may be Robinson's son, Singh said. He gave just a brief description before the cell phone went dead.
By then, Robinson had confronted Aguiar and "was trying to get him to stop, trying to pull him off, or away from the baby," Singh said. "The suspect just pushed him away and continued doing what he was doing."
A minute later, at 10:14 p.m., a pickup truck with three people in their 20s pulled up, facing Aguiar's truck. One of them called 911. A young man, who Singh hasn't identified, jumped out and ran to help Robinson.
"It was the shock of seeing what was going on, seeing this person with hands bloodied," said Singh, who was on the scene as the witnesses were interviewed. "At first they weren't sure how to react. You walk upon that scene and you see it and it's like, 'What are you doing?' It's like, "What the heck are you doing?' " The two men wrestled with Aguiar, trying to get him to stop, trying to pull him away from the baby. But Aguiar, with the child in his arm, kept attacking the toddler, "punching, slapping, shaking," Singh said.

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In my opinion, the only person at this point that deserves blame of any sort is the deranged father. From what I have gathered from various sources, 1 or 2 of the people that stopped were elderly and at least 1 was a girl in her early 20s, too.

Of course i blame the deranged father. do do believe i would throw myself at him again and again, though. in some effort.

that is who i am.

 

[Floh]

Should the elderly man have stepped in?

There were the young and the strong there.

 

[SewingDeb]

The cab of the Toyota pickup was covered with blood that needs to be tested, he said.

"This event didn't start at Bradbury Road. The blood and other evidence leads us to believe the suspect may have ended up there, but the crime really started someplace else," Christianson said. "That child probably suffered fatal injuries before the motorists arrived on the scene."

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/331286.html

 

[Floh]

The cab of the Toyota pickup was covered with blood that needs to be tested, he said.

"This event didn't start at Bradbury Road. The blood and other evidence leads us to believe the suspect may have ended up there, but the crime really started someplace else," Christianson said. "That child probably suffered fatal injuries before the motorists arrived on the scene."

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/331286.html

I have no doubt that baby did probably suffer fatal injuries before the motorists arrived on the scene.

but if there was even the slimmest of chances, you seriousy couldn't have held me off when there was a child involved.

 

[ceeaura]

I am with you Floh.I would have done everything in my power to try and stop the man.No matter what it cost me.Anything to get his attention and focus off that baby.

Poor baby, it just breaks my heart.May he RiP.

 

[kline]

Yeah, the sad truth is regardless of what any of the bystanders did it was probably too late before anybody was able to grasp what was happening.
This guys delusional behavior sure sounds like textbook paranoid schizophrenia...I wonder if he's one of these guys who decided to stop taking his perscription meds and snort crank instead.
Happens alot unfortunately.