Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #10

[Deleted member 110058]

So when she was initially abducted, they must've been wearing masks while they were out driving around, or she would've seen them?

How could the driver of the vehicle wear a mask? Wouldn't that be a little conspicuous?

 

[Stripehaven]

If I were LE? Get there first and speak to the victim before and apart from others.

YES. Standard procedure, I would think.

 

[Eileen730]

How do you mean? Two Hispanic women cruising around for any old white person to beat up for three weeks, just because they hate white people so much? :waitasec:

No.
Maybe someone from the area.

I think it's someone known to her.
I think after they did it they didn't know how to get out of it.

To me her husband was on to an abduction in a nano second.
Almost like she had been threatened earlier. This could be the reason their FB went down.
I just have a feeling it's ppl she knows or ppl that know her....

Just a thought

 

[AceDetective]

So why does it matter to anything is she was previously married? Did she lie about it? TIA

It doesn't much matter, frankly. She did say in her wedding blog that she had never lived with a man before.
I'm saying she just wanted to simplify the story.... others think it's a huge cover-up.

edit to add: It definitely wasn't widely known. But on the other hand, she filed in Shasta County. If you're trying to hide a divorce, you don't file in the county in which you live.

 

[Redcliff]

If another family member was with him, perhaps from Sherri's side of the family, that person may have made the decision on when to call SP's parents.

 

[JDauxa]

I think by the time it went through the courts he was no longer in Hawaii and she was back in Redding....so likely they had an issue with notifications.

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He could have been Military. That might explain it.


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[Madeleine74]

You always have a good logical perspective to throw into a thread, BUT you have to admit- you're just as curious as we are or you wouldn't be here.

Love your insight though...

Nope, not nearly as curious as most. I didn't follow this case as it was happening, other than seeing one headline about it on some other site, I only came into the thread after she was found and saw a little bit of the press conference by the Sheriff and read a bit of the sister's press conf transcript. I'm glad she's been found, I'm happy for her family, especially her kids. The rest is up to the Sheriff's Dept to figure out and they will, one way or the other.

 

[creepcrusher]

I'm still in the camp believing this was an abduction, rather than a hoax. My belief is based on what we've seen and been told so far, and is subject to change if other information is revealed. I will confess that if I were to start firmly onto the hoax path with no particular evidence, and it turns out that it really is an abduction, I'm going to feel terrible. So I will stay put and risk being wrong...again (I was sure Sherri had been murdered).

I do agree that this case is very strange, but I just don't see hoax in the actions of anyone that we've seen so far. I would really be straining to reach that conclusion, personally.

At this point, I don't think Sherri was abducted at random. I just don't see someone happening upon her near that intersection and deciding to take her for some reason. I do think (without any indicators I can point to) that the abduction was related to something Sherri or someone in her inner circle has said or done in the past or present. I doubt they ever intended to kill her, but rather to inflict pain on her and her family (physical and/or emotional), either for revenge or to teach a lesson. Once they felt that sufficient damage had been done and/or the amount of publicity and reward could uncover them, they released her.

As usual, this is JMO and I am prepared to be wrong. It won't be the first time or the last.

I'm in the same boat as you. I can't victim blame unless LE gives us reason to. Not saying the thought hasn't crossed my mind, because it has several times. I'm still leaning towards a targeted, planned abduction. BUT as more evidence comes in I could change my mind. Either way, I'm just happy she's alive and home with her family. That's the best news of all.


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[Redcliff]

I understand your point, but generosity shouldn't outweigh the children's safety after such a tragic ordeal, more so with a kidnapper still on the loose. JMHO

RBBM

Fair enough, but when the children's pictures have been plastered on thousands of missing posters, newspaper articles and television screens, I'm not sure a cute picture of the kids in chef outfits by their play kitchen did any additional harm.

 

[Lots2Learn]

So I'm thinking that she was abducted but by someone known to them or for a reason they knew.
I think they knew what happens quick. They being her immediate family m

But I'm wishy washy. And I don't think this was hoax as in for cash or fame or anything. I could be totally wrong


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[LozDa]

I'm still in the camp believing this was an abduction, rather than a hoax. My belief is based on what we've seen and been told so far, and is subject to change if other information is revealed. I will confess that if I were to start firmly onto the hoax path with no particular evidence, and it turns out that it really is an abduction, I'm going to feel terrible. So I will stay put and risk being wrong...again (I was sure Sherri had been murdered).

I do agree that this case is very strange, but I just don't see hoax in the actions of anyone that we've seen so far. I would really be straining to reach that conclusion, personally.

At this point, I don't think Sherri was abducted at random. I just don't see someone happening upon her near that intersection and deciding to take her for some reason. I do think (without any indicators I can point to) that the abduction was related to something Sherri or someone in her inner circle has said or done in the past or present. I doubt they ever intended to kill her, but rather to inflict pain on her and her family (physical and/or emotional), either for revenge or to teach a lesson. Once they felt that sufficient damage had been done and/or the amount of publicity and reward could uncover them, they released her.

As usual, this is JMO and I am prepared to be wrong. It won't be the first time or the last.

BBM You and me both, Lilibet! I'm struggling with the guilt of feeling distrustful. In fact, it's the one thing that's really bothering me the most. I can't decide if I'm being offensively distrusting

I hope my posts have been as respectful as they can possibly be whilst still voicing my concerns over some of the information we currently have (or don't have).

I've been right about some things, I've been wrong about others. I certainly don't feel like my view is superior or the correct view. I just can't shake it is all.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; SP being home is the best outcome of all the scenarios we were faced with a week ago. No matter how this concludes and even if it doesn't, the children have their mother back and she is safe in the arms of her family. No matter what else happens from this point on, that remains the one fact that we can all celebrate together.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

Latest news account about the female witness who called 911 after passing SP on the highway with her 14-yr old in the car. Her account differs slightly from the CHP account ('heavily battered'), though it's likely true that she did not get a close look, either:



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...victim-risked-hit-car-help.html#ixzz4RLWxDZrB
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I'd like to hear the 911 tapes of this witness's phone call; as far as I can tell those have not yet been released.

I would like to hear her 911 call as well. I know she couldn't have gotten a good view of her at the rate of speed she said she was travelling -other than long blonde hair and woman.
That would have scared the bee gee zus out of me! I'd have gotten cotton mouth so bad, I'd barely be able to talk!
A woman frantically flagging down cars close enough to be hit!
Thank God she wasn't hit or there would have NO reports of possible suspects or how she ended up there. Heck it would have taken a day or two to establish her identity (to the public)
MOO

 

[creepcrusher]

If I were LE? Get there first and speak to the victim before and apart from others.

Okay from what I read the local LE that got there had Sherri call Keith. I'm positive I read that or saw it in the original press conference. I'm thinking he beat the Shasta County SO- not all LE.

Edited: Here is the link-
http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/no...n-yolo-county-bound-with-restraints/183165592

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[Deleted member 39678]

Anyone think she'll do a TV network interview?

I'm not sure if she will or not.

I do know that if she doesn't do a network interview some members of the public will say she's hiding the truth. If she does do a network interview some will ask how much money was she paid for it.

At the appropriate time, an interview with a local news station would be best in my opinion. JMO

 

[Logansden77]

Sorry if mentioned before but daily mail article quotes the dad ken as saying hubby got to her before the sheriffs did????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...car-help.html?ito=email_share_mobile-masthead

Before the Shasta County sheriffs arrived. Yolo county was on scene with the CHP.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Okay from what I read the local LE that got there had Sherri call Keith. I'm positive I read that or saw it in the original press conference. I'm thinking he beat the Shasta County SO- not all LE.


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I don't think it's a big deal if Keith made it to Sherri before Shasta County LE. Yolo County LE and CHP were on scene. JMO

 

[bhh77]

I'm going to post again as I don't see my previous post. I tried to edit a spelling error and may have deleted it.

From a person who works missing person cases. I'd like to point out a couple of things. First, everyone is upset at the vague nature of the description of two Hispanic females. I don't believe this description is meant to launch a man hunt but rather to jog someones memory. For example maybe you have seen a neighbor or someone in your community acting odd or doing something you thought to be out of place but at the time without any reason to suspect anything it just wasn't weird enough to warrant much more reaction. However after hearing the description of the SUV with two Hispanic females someone might come forward and say I saw ..... happen and it could provide an important lead for LE.

Second, I believe that it is quite possible SP was visually restricted the entire time she was held captive, IMO.

Third, having worked with LE in that area (on the Ember Graham case) , having a friend who is a former Sheriff in a neighbouring county and living just north of the area I'm also wanting to point out that the CHP officers in that region absolutely deal with much more than just writing traffic tickets. In that sparsely populated area with counties that have hundreds and hundreds of sqaure miles commonly patrolled by one or two deputies CHP is often closer and first to respond to rapes, od's, beatings, robberies, accidents and much much more. They are not just traffic cops as may be more common in the more populated areas such as LA etc.

Lastly, a few pages back someone posted a photo from the crime scene asking if anybody could identify the item in the photo. I may very well have missed it but did not see a response. To me it certainly looks like a men's tie adjusted to a length that it could certainly have been being used as a blindfold. Did anyone else see that or am I seeing things? My head is spinning having been trying to catch up on this thread from the beginning over the last few days.

 

[bhh77]

Also, I don't believe that they meant KP beat local sheriff's to the scene but rather he beat Shasta County there. No surprise IMO.

 

[Mosaic]

Fair enough, but when the children's pictures have been plastered on thousands of missing posters, newspaper articles and television screens, I'm not sure a cute picture of the kids in chef outfits by their play kitchen did any additional harm.

I would agree to disagree. Releasing their names, ages and recent pictures it's a huge and unnecessary risk. The perpetrator(s) is/are still at large.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Reconciliation seems unlikely. 12/2006 was when Sherri stated on her wedding blog that her and Keith moved in together in Redding.

Right. Keith moved into Sherri's townhouse in Dec 2006. Sherri had already been living in that townhouse for two years before Keith moved in. Sherri's husband filed for divorce in HI in Dec 2006. Sherri didn't file for divorce until she and Keith had been living together for 8 months (Aug 2007) and her divorce was not final until Sep 2008. I found the whole wedding blog weird because Sherri was meeting with Catholic Church officials and going to premarital wedding classes with Keith while she was still married to her first husband. Perhaps none of her family, friends, church knew she was already married? In fact, she was still married to her first husband at the time of her engagement party.

She mentioned that she and Keith had been together since the day they reunited and haven't been apart since, so apparently there was no reconciliation attempt with hubby #1 between Dec 2006 (when he filed) and Aug 2007 (when she filed).

https://web.archive.org/web/20090210100542/http://www.mywedding.com/papini/blog.html