Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

[Gardener1850]

I'm curious about the form of the DNA found and where it was found. The woman's DNA was found on SP's body. Was this a hair? Saliva? Blood? What other kinds of DNA could a woman leave on another woman's body? The male DNA was only found on the clothes. And again we don't know the form-- Sweat? Semen? Blood? And where were these samples found on her body/on the clothing? It seems like if she had direct interaction with a male his DNA would be on her body too, but it was only on the clothes from what we know so far. And why no mention of DNA on the restraints she was wearing? Did they find any DNA there or not? It's all very curious...JMO.

 

[monkey222]

Did LE state that the general public is not in danger. ..with 2 unsavory masked branding kidnappers at large? I thought I read that. .somewhere... Do any of you recall? Thx.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I wonder if investigators have located those bandannas inside her home.

:seeya: Now that's good thinking !

:thinking: I wonder IF LE searched the P's home ... is that SOP ... :dunno:

:cheers:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think they'd need a warrant to look at people's bank transactions.

I think that LE would have no problem finding out about any large bank transactions involving the Papini's.

Federal Banking Rules on Withdrawing Large Sums of Cash

A 1970 anti-money-laundering law known as the Bank Secrecy Act spells out the rules for large cash withdrawals. In general, banks must report any transaction involving at least $10,000 in cash. That includes not only withdrawals but also deposits, currency exchanges (such as swapping dollars for euros or Japanese yen) and the purchase of traveler's checks. The law also requires banks to check identification on any transaction that would trigger a report. In other words, even if your bank doesn't usually ask for ID with withdrawals, it must do so for withdrawals over $10,000

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https://finance.zacks.com/federal-banking-rules-withdrawing-large-sums-cash-1696.html

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Gossip? People know each other and word spreads? I mean I’m not talking about comments on articles. The locals were right about Michigan man so....


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So you're saying that if someone on a forum claims they have inside information it's gossip and likely true. You posted that they said Michigan man is a doctor. I don't know that is true.

 

[Quiet Time]

What home would that be? A different home than the one they have been living in?

No, the same home.
I thought they were renting that home.

 

[natsound]

I can't find the original LE link but from the very first thread here is a copy of one of the first press releases after SP went missing (posted Nov 8, 2016):

NEWS RELEASE *Updated*

*Missing Person – Sherri Papini*

Suspicious Circumstances/At Risk

On 11/02/16, Wednesday at 1751 hours, Papini was reported missing after she was not found at home and her cell phone being discovered on the ground near the intersection of Sunrise Drive and Old Oregon trail.

On 11/03/16, Thursday, the Shasta County Sheriff’s Office conducted organized searches in the area of Sunrise Drive and Old Oregon Trail for Missing Person, Sherri Papini utilizing members of the Shasta County Sheriff’s Office, Search and Rescue Team. CHP air operations also assisted with an aerial search. Ground searchers conducted follow up canvasses and contacted area residences while searching for any evidence or clues associated with Sherri Papini. Good information was obtained and passed onto detectives that is assisting them putting together a timeline of Sherri’s Papini’s activities around 11/02/16. Detectives have conducted numerous interviews with Sherri Papini’s family, friends and the public. Tips and leads continue to come to the Sheriff’s Office however at this time, Sherri Papini’s whereabouts are still unknown.

Patrol deputies have continued to conduct directed enforcement operations in the area making contacts with pedestrians and motorist in an attempt to learn information about what has occurred. Patrol Deputies and detectives continue to contact 290 registrants in the area and continue to expand their area of coverage. Detectives are continuing to search for surveillance video as well as trail/game cameras from residences and stores that cover all probable routes in and out of the Sunrise Drive area.

Today, detectives are reviewing information, tips, surveillance gathered over the past two days to piece together timelines and locate information about what occurred with Sherri Papini. The Sheriff’s Office is also reviewing information from yesterday’s search to prepare for additional searches. The public is strongly urged to contact the Sheriff’s Office for tips where someone may have seen a suspicious person(s) or vehicle(s) on 11/02/16 in the area of Sunrise Drive, Old Oregon Trail and surrounding areas.

The Sheriff’s Office is aware of the multiple theories about what may have happened with Sherri Papini. The Sheriff’s Office encourages the public to continue to be supportive to family as well as law enforcement efforts as these are stressful circumstances. Be assured that the Sheriff’s Office is utilizing all available assets, investigative techniques as well as outside resources and agencies to assist as needed.

Again, the Sheriff’s Office has had multiple eye witness reports from neighbors that know Sherri Papini and she was seen in the area of Sunrise Drive on 11/02/16 in the mid to late-morning/early afternoon wearing a pink jogging top while she was on a jog/walk.

If anyone has information on Sherri Papini’s where abouts or tips they can call dispatch 24 hours a day at 530-245-6540, or at the Major Crimes Unit 530-245-6135. Tips can also be submitted at [email protected].


16-40875
Shasta County Sheriff’s Office
Major Crimes Unit
Sergeant Brian Jackson
530-245-6172
11/04/16, 1030 hours

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-2-November-2016-1&p=12921799#post12921799

Info about who saw her jogging in red. It was reported that the witnesses knew Sherri and saw her jogging wearing that outfit. We can call into question witnesses memory, as they are not always accurate, but this was what was reported. We don't have to base her going jogging only on KP's assumption she went jogging.

LE did say it in that press release. Where are these people? I have recently seen a report that no neighbors see her jogging.

 

[bears10]

So you're saying that if someone on a forum claims they have inside information it's gossip and likely true. You posted that they said Michigan man is a doctor. I don't know that is true.

I did not say that.. you put words in my mouth. I don't know it's true either. But the person who I heard about michigan man from had also referred to him as a doctor months ago.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

Do we know if it was the ransom money that was used to purchase their home just recently?

How convenient.

:seeya:

BBM: Ah yes ... good one.

:thinking: So ... you are living in a home paying rent, then decide to purchase that same home AFTER your wife is kidnapped just right down the road from your home while jogging in broad daylight ?

:shakehead: ... :moo:

 

[natsound]

Did LE state that the general public is not in danger. ..with 2 unsavory masked branding kidnappers at large? I thought I read that. .somewhere... Do any of you recall? Thx.

Yes, they stated something to that effect and never explained it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I did not say that.. you put words in my mouth. I don't know it's true either. But the person who I heard about michigan man from had also referred to him as a doctor months ago.

I'm going to classify that information as being a rumor.

 

[Quiet Time]

Worked for me. Very interesting that the anonymous donor is now going to pay Papini for surviving the 'kidnapping'.

She has to get her share of the deal...imo

 

[bears10]

:seeya:

BBM: Ah yes ... good one.

:thinking: So ... you are living in a home paying rent, then decide to purchase that same home AFTER your wife is kidnapped just right down the road from your home while jogging in broad daylight ?

:shakehead: ... :moo:

The house is KPs childhood home.. owned by his mom... I am not sure if we know the details on if they paid rent or not.

 

[bears10]

I'm going to classify that information as being a rumor.

Of course, I wouldn't expect anything else. I didn't realize when I posted that it wasn't common knowledge. As I've stated a bunch of times, it's hard to keep track of what was stated by LE, the WS VI, KP, MSM, and VIs from other forums. Once I realized, it was too late to edit my post.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I think they'd need a warrant to look at people's bank transactions.

:seeya: Yep ...

:moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

The house is KPs childhood home.. owned by his mom... I am not sure if we know the details on if they paid rent or not.

:seeya: Thank you for clarifying.

I remember reading last year that it was owned by someone they knew -- but did not remember it was his mom.

Oh, but it still makes me wonder WHY purchase a house where your wife was kidnapped right down the road in broad daylight ?

:moo:

 

[SpanishInquisition]

We don't know it? It actually says he passed the lie detector test. If LE said it, KP said it, he passed the poly, but he doesn't know if she was jogging?
It would seem reasonable to me that if he said it and he passed the poly that it's 'likely' true.
IMO - she was jogging.

Also I can't find any reference that her jacket was found by the mailboxes?

JMO

It makes no difference that he passed the poly as he wasn't there. He's only guessing and/or passing along second hand information that he was not an eyewitness to. According to the FBI, she was last seen dropping her kids off a daycare:
"Prior to her disappearance on November 2, 2016, Sherri was last seen dropping her children off at daycare in the morning"
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-individuals

 

[dog.gone.cute]

BBM

Just a small correction here. Sgt. Jackson states the cuts on her foot were not seen by hospital staff in a review of the pictures. Might not be a big deal but just in case.

BUT ... IF that cut on the foot happened right after she slammed the abductor's head into the toilet, then taken out of hiding and dropped off by the other abductor AFTER the toilet incident, that cut on the foot would be fresh !

All MOO

:seeya:

 

[Gardener1850]

LE did say it in that press release. Where are these people? I have recently seen a report that no neighbors see her jogging.

The Daily Mail interviewed a new neighbor recently who said SHE had never seen SP jogging there:

Neighbors living close to Papini's home, which was purchased by the couple in April this year, say the mother-of-two is rarely seen and does not interact with people living nearby.

They also said she no longer jogs but insisted that it was unusual to see her running even before the apparent kidnapping.

'She's a quiet person,' said Joyce Allison, 77. 'She keeps herself to herself and stays at home with the kids.

'I've been here 12 years and I've never seen her jogging. The only time I've ever spoken to him [Keith] was when she went missing. He came to ask if he could search my yard.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...herri-Papini-lives-recluse.html#ixzz4xgGtjHj4

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So only one neighbor, who never spoke to KP prior to SP going missing, says she never saw SP jogging before. Daily Mail* tries to make it sound like more than one said that with the use of "they" but DM only has quotes on the jogging from one lady. One neighbor that never saw her jog doesn't mean much however IF the others who spoke to LE actually saw her jogging that day. I don't know who these witnesses are, if their stories were true or not, just saying this story of her jogging is not all from KP's perspective or something only he made up-- we had those early witness accounts too. The VI also confirmed for us SP was training for a specific charity race.

*I wanted to also add that Daily Mail is considered a questionable source to many here. I find they have many photos and quotes other news sources don't have and checking with them can be an easy way to find a quote on something but IMO we should take some things they publish with a grain of salt. Daily Mail is also the paper that released supposed surveillance photos a suspect in the Rita Maze case, when there was no suspect-- Rita committed suicide, the man they published photos of was innocent and not related to the case-- good thing they didn't have his name in print too! I was really fooled by DM so my guard is up ever since that false reporting they put out in the Rita Maze case. JMO.

 

[DakotaMayi]

We don't know it? It actually says he passed the lie detector test. If LE said it, KP said it, he passed the poly, but he doesn't know if she was jogging?
It would seem reasonable to me that if he said it and he passed the poly that it's 'likely' true.
IMO - she was jogging.

Also I can't find any reference that her jacket was found by the mailboxes?

JMO

Surely they wouldn't even ask him what she was doing at that time, if he wasn't present. Wouldn't it be more of, "Did Sherri tell you her plans for the day?" or "Do you know her usual routine?" Not "What was Sherri doing at that exact moment in time? - Even though you weren't there to witness it."

I'm not too familiar with polygraphs but it seems stupid and crazy to think they would ask someone who wasn't with Sherri at the time, what she was doing, at that time. That cannot be taken as truth. Even if she told him that was her plan.

I might tell my OH that I'm going to the store that day. Maybe I decide not to, maybe I realize I don't need to or don't want to. Asking him if I went to the store that day and him saying yes does not mean that I went to the store that day.