Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

[kkdj]

I'm pondering this... what if she thought she was meeting up with Michigan Man, was waiting alone for him somewhere, and a not-so-well meaning person got to her first, maybe pretending to be MM or just smooth talking her into following him somewhere quiet and held her captive? Idk. Just pondering. This case is so strange but I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt for now.

All MOO and JMO and speculation.

Just something random happening to SP is seeming more far fetched to me at this point. That's what keeps throwing us off I think. That we keep trying to somehow make this a random abduction and it doesn't fit. Don't know quite why yet, but it doesn't. Also, SP beating the carp out of herself repeatedly and starving herself for weeks doesn't fit either. So, what does fit?

 

[kkdj]

I believe he was horrified, but still can't say that I believe he wasn't involved. What husband would be horrified if their spouse's hair was cut to shoulder length and yet she returned home ALIVE? It shouldn't even be in the story. Physical injuries, yes. Hair, no. It shows an unbelievable shallowness in my opinion (only my opinion). It's just hair. It grows back. :shame:

Yet this is one of the things that he focuses on. It definitely sets off alarm bells in my mind.

I really think that her hair was something both of them really liked, and that the cutting off of her hair seemed cruel to them. I felt that KP was genuinely horrified by her injuries and the hair was just one more noticeable thing he mentioned. I personally didn't put too much stock into his comments about her hair tho. It was just part of the whole picture.

 

[natsound]

I reviewed the sheriff's press release.

The press release does not indicate she was emaciated. KP did. The press release does not indicate her hair had been "chopped off". KP said that. Instead, the press release states "her hair had been cut to shoulder length". The press release does not indicate she had injuries at different stages of healing. But I was sure I heard that in an interview. Anyone?

In a Redding Record Searchlight article dated Oct 25, Sgt. Jackson states that it appeared she sustained multiple injuries over a period of time. I can’t link to it right now.

 

[kkdj]

There's a newsweek article that came out today that I can't access because I'm not subscribed. Has anyone seen it?

 

[rsd1200]

It's possible KP passed the lie detector because he truly didn't know anything (in the early stages). I think it's possible SP made contact with him later on and could've even said I'll be home for Thanksgiving.

If she got into something she didn't want anyone to know about and found herself in over her head, who would she contact? I think the answer to that might be her husband. In her shoes, that's what I would do, in hopes that he would protect me and 'fix it'. All just speculation on my part.

That's a good thought, and I get the feeling that he is so head over heals over her, that he'd take her back, even if it turned out to be a very poor decision, that some dudes would've said, buh-bye, Felicia.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Just something random happening to SP is seeming more far fetched to me at this point. That's what keeps throwing us off I think. That we keep trying to somehow make this a random abduction and it doesn't fit. Don't know quite why yet, but it doesn't. Also, SP beating the carp out of herself repeatedly and starving herself for weeks doesn't fit either. So, what does fit?

If it happened, it wasn't random. It was likely pay-back for something. And if that's the case, it's probably something she doesn't want known, hence the inability to remember much about it.

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[Sillybilly]

For those who may have missed it, or if your post has disappeared, please read Tricia's Opening Post in this thread.

 

[kkdj]

If it happened, it wasn't random. It was likely pay-back for something. And if that's the case, it's probably something she doesn't want known, hence the inability to remember much about it.

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This fits doesn't it?

 

[rsd1200]

As hateful as people are toward her, I'd find it odd if she did do an interview.

I think it's because nothing ads up, and they invested time and money into fundraisers, search parties, etc... but it all started being handled so strange, and then KP's interview was "off", (to me anyway). If they wanted to make a statement to the press, maybe using another family member, reading a short statement from SP, thanking them for searching for her, would have come off a lot better. But , honestly, the more SP, and that negotiator, talked, the weirder it got. Now we know about a connection to some dude in Mich.? I don't think they'd come after her with torches, but, I do think they may have some tough questions for her and SP.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I've seen multiple posts that have no links saying that Keith Papini either predicted or promised that Sherri would be found by Thanksgiving in advance of that actually happening. I've done a Goggle search and can't find it.

Can someone help me with a link? I wish to read it so I can get some context. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

This fits doesn't it?

It does. That's why I am not disbelieving the entire thing yet - just part of it. I think the truth is somewhere between the two camps of hoax and believers. Surely, there are some untruths here, but I think I believe she was held against her will even if she wasn't initially actually kidnapped in the way we have been told she was. I think she ended up unexpectedly paying for something. KP may or may not know exactly what that was at this point.

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[rsd1200]

No, I mean if she was let go for promising not to identify her captors, why would they let her go? Why trust her? At that point they'd gotten away with it and could have killed her and gotten rid of the body. Now, if they let her go with this promise, they have to spend the rest of their lives worrying the SP is going to tell on them.

I don't think "she promised not to tell" is behind their decision to free her. It doesn't make sense.

I don't think that they ever had to worry about her telling. I think that it was something that went awry. Some adventure that didn't go as planned. Maybe it started out that she would be gone for a long weekend, let SP worry about her and be tickled pink when she arrived back home. Then, everything got out of hand, what with the search and all, so they had to devise a plan to return her to her family. Enter the negotiator.

 

[JaimeInLA]

You may all already know this, but somehow I missed it before. The offer of a $100,000 reward for information about SP's whereabouts was withdrawn exactly 24 hours before she showed up again. Weird!!

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...-share-joy-post-happy-photo-two-children.html

 

[rsd1200]

We don't know how bad the injuries were, though. I'm a clumsy person and at any point in time I will have bruises of various different shades across my body. We have KP's description of Sherri after the attack but IMO he speaks in a hyperbolic way so I'm not sure she was as bad as he described.

LE would not even confirm the extent of her injuries that SP claimed, iirc. I may have that wrong, it's been awhile, and I don't have a link handy.

 

[JaimeInLA]

A few good nuggets in this article too. Sherri's sister refused to comment on her health after meeting with her upon her release.

"Koester told reporters that her sister was very excited to be home, but would not describe Papini's health."

Also, Sherri was not immediately reunited with her children. (there was speculation up thread that she checked herself out of the hospital so that she could reunite with her children. That does not appear to be so, according to this article):

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...us/missing-california-jogger-found/index.html

 

[rsd1200]

I'm pondering this... what if she thought she was meeting up with Michigan Man, was waiting alone for him somewhere, and a not-so-well meaning person got to her first, maybe pretending to be MM or just smooth talking her into following him somewhere quiet and held her captive? Idk. Just pondering. This case is so strange but I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt for now.

All MOO and JMO and speculation.

Maybe she got catfished, big time.

 

[bears10]

I've seen multiple posts that have no links saying that Keith Papini either predicted or promised that Sherri would be found by Thanksgiving in advance of that actually happening. I've done a Goggle search and can't find it.

Can someone help me with a link? I wish to read it so I can get some context. Thanks.

Ken said his son had always believed he'd bring his family back together.

Last week he promised their two children, Tyler four and Violet, two, that 'mommy' would be home by Thanksgiving.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...hanksgiving-promised-children-d-holidays.html



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[kkdj]

From a November 25, 2016 CNN article:


Sheriff: 'Sensitive information' not disclosed
Bosenko said there was "sensitive information" related to the disappearance that he would not disclose.

 

[bears10]

From a November 26, 2016 CNN article:


Sheriff: 'Sensitive information' not disclosed
Bosenko said there was "sensitive information" related to the disappearance that he would not disclose.

Probably info like the brand, her hair, etc. aka the things KP revealed on 20/20


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[gitana1]

Just something random happening to SP is seeming more far fetched to me at this point. That's what keeps throwing us off I think. That we keep trying to somehow make this a random abduction and it doesn't fit. Don't know quite why yet, but it doesn't. Also, SP beating the carp out of herself repeatedly and starving herself for weeks doesn't fit either. So, what does fit?

Two things could possibly fit- her becoming involved in something that turned bad. Or people who are crazy out of their minds who tried to do
something that didn't pan out.

I really don't know.