Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

[Jethro4WS]

What you've said is all true. None of it changes the fact that the caller on the radio said she was found "south of Yolo". Look on google maps. The location of the kingdom hall and overpass cannot in anyway be described as south of Yolo.

She was not found anywhere near the Kingdom Hall. She went where I said. She ran/walked down the EXIT ramp from I-5 North. The ramp next to the Kingdom Hall is an ENTRANCE RAMP to I-5 she did not go down that. When you watch the video Sherri first enters the view coming from the South going North and went to the entrance of the Kingdom Hall - which faces East. When she leaves she is heading SOUTH. She kept going South.

She was found where the arrow points or further south from there.

 

[bluesneakers]

She was not found anywhere near the Kingdom Hall. She went where I said. She ran/walked down the EXIT ramp from I-5 North. The ramp next to the Kingdom Hall is an ENTRANCE RAMP to I-5 she did not go down that. When you watch the video Sherri first enters the view coming from the South going North and went to the entrance of the Kingdom Hall - which faces East. When she leaves she is heading SOUTH. She kept going South.

She was found where the arrow points or further south from there.

Where is the church on this map? Sorry - the text is too tiny for me to read.

 

[Jethro4WS]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri...shows-california-mother-before-she-was-found/

BBM. I would love to see the enhanced video they probably used as I can't make out any of her restraints in what was released. As predicted, online commentators have had a field day saying how this video shows she had no restraints on her and even a few so called "journalists" have sensationalized it as if the video indicates a fraud. I can't make out a thing in that video to say one way of the other if she had on the chain around her waist and hose clamps on her ankles while running, but here it is stated LE could make out those details. Between this statement and the press release about it only being 7 minutes between the video and SP being found on the side of the HWY, it sounds like they are saying this video corroborates that part of her story. Still, it is really strange that they released that grainy video. What were they hoping to accomplish by releasing it? :thinking:

They say this in the same article:


I truly hope that this is the case and they are able to solve this case soon.

The video camera is looking towards the town of Yolo (ESE of the Kingdom Hall) so it would also show any vehicles (by headlights, not detailed) travelling East or West on 17 through Yolo as well as vehicles travelling North or South on Highway 99 near the Kingdom Hall. There is more footage available than just Sherri coming and going from the Kingdom Hall. Therefore, LE would have a reasonable idea of how many vehicles passed through and when. Because it is rural there should only be a few at most and LE would have some sense of tighter time frames for Sherri's arrival.

This video, in my opinion was a message. It shows them what can be seen. It shows them that it is a continuous recording device - not motion activated. So if there was anything that occurred prior to, or even after, Sherri's arrival at Yolo in the vicinity of the Kingdom Hall it can be seen to some extent.

So, if there are parts of Sherri's story that we have not heard it is entirely possible that some of the elements of her story can be disproved by video - and not from the footage that was released but footage that LE has.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Where is the church on this map? Sorry - the text is too tiny for me to read.

I will try this.

 

[bluesneakers]

Thanks!

 

[Jethro4WS]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri...shows-california-mother-before-she-was-found/

BBM. I would love to see the enhanced video they probably used as I can't make out any of her restraints in what was released. As predicted, online commentators have had a field day saying how this video shows she had no restraints on her and even a few so called "journalists" have sensationalized it as if the video indicates a fraud. I can't make out a thing in that video to say one way of the other if she had on the chain around her waist and hose clamps on her ankles while running, but here it is stated LE could make out those details. Between this statement and the press release about it only being 7 minutes between the video and SP being found on the side of the HWY, it sounds like they are saying this video corroborates that part of her story. Still, it is really strange that they released that grainy video. What were they hoping to accomplish by releasing it? :thinking:

They say this in the same article:


I truly hope that this is the case and they are able to solve this case soon.

One more thing I wanted to point out about the 7 minutes from the time of the video to her being found is that dozens of motorists called 911 about a person on the side of the highway. That is an awful lot of people passing by and willing to call 911 in a short period of time.

 

[Gardener1850]

The video camera is looking towards the town of Yolo (ESE of the Kingdom Hall) so it would also show any vehicles (by headlights, not detailed) travelling East or West on 17 through Yolo as well as vehicles travelling North or South on Highway 99 near the Kingdom Hall. There is more footage available than just Sherri coming and going from the Kingdom Hall. Therefore, LE would have a reasonable idea of how many vehicles passed through and when. Because it is rural there should only be a few at most and LE would have some sense of tighter time frames for Sherri's arrival.

This video, in my opinion was a message. It shows them what can be seen. It shows them that it is a continuous recording device - not motion activated. So if there was anything that occurred prior to, or even after, Sherri's arrival at Yolo in the vicinity of the Kingdom Hall it can be seen to some extent.

So, if there are parts of Sherri's story that we have not heard it is entirely possible that some of the elements of her story can be disproved by video - and not from the footage that was released but footage that LE has.

I have no doubt they have tons of info and video that has not been released. Good point that the video shows a continuous feed. I'm not sure that the average person would pick up on that as "a message", however. JMO.

 

[Cannonball3804]

One more thing I wanted to point out about the 7 minutes from the time of the video to her being found is that dozens of motorists called 911 about a person on the side of the highway. That is an awful lot of people passing by and willing to call 911 in a short period of time.

I don't know about that. It's an interstate highway in California. It's Thanksgiving morning, a time of heavier traffic than would be normal for most mornings at 4 am. It's an odd sight to see anyone in that position, so I'm sure vehicles traveling both ways were able to see and take note. And I'm sure that once the trucker stopped, still more people called 911 because they couldn't tell what he was doing with a woman who seemed distraught.

 

[Gardener1850]

One more thing I wanted to point out about the 7 minutes from the time of the video to her being found is that dozens of motorists called 911 about a person on the side of the highway. That is an awful lot of people passing by and willing to call 911 in a short period of time.

The lady that passed her at 70-80 MPH and was interviewed by multiple news outlets said SP was almost out in traffic and could have gotten hit. I don't think it is that surprising the HWY was busy early on Thanksgiving morning. Unlike a regular commuter day where most cars only have one person, people would be in their cars with family members heading to relatives homes for the holiday and the passengers could easily have called 911. It must have seemed obvious enough that SP needed help (like the lady interviewed said). Or perhaps some people called because they thought she was a drunk person walking in traffic. IDK.

 

[sumzero]

One more thing I wanted to point out about the 7 minutes from the time of the video to her being found is that dozens of motorists called 911 about a person on the side of the highway. That is an awful lot of people passing by and willing to call 911 in a short period of time.

Dozens? Do you have a link for that figure?

 

[Jethro4WS]

I don't know about that. It's an interstate highway in California. It's Thanksgiving morning, a time of heavier traffic than would be normal for most mornings at 4 am. It's an odd sight to see anyone in that position, so I'm sure vehicles traveling both ways were able to see and take note. And I'm sure that once the trucker stopped, still more people called 911 because they couldn't tell what he was doing with a woman who seemed distraught.

I guess I should elaborate a little more. It was 7 minutes from the time of the video until she was found. It took a few minutes to get from the Kingdom Hall to where she was found. So the window of time is smaller, 4 minutes or less.

 

[Gardener1850]

I guess I should elaborate a little more. It was 7 minutes from the time of the video until she was found. It took a few minutes to get from the Kingdom Hall to where she was found. So the window of time is smaller, 4 minutes or less.

Gotcha. Sorry if I misunderstood your point.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Dozens? Do you have a link for that figure?

From December 2nd, here is one.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sherri-pap...erious-disappearance-search/story?id=43930023

Alison Sutton happened to be driving down I-5 North when she saw Sherri.“I saw a woman frantically waving what looked like a shirt up and down, trying to flag somebody down. I was started to see her. It was dark and she pretty much just came out of nowhere,” Sutton told “20/20.” “If I had swerved to the right at least a little bit, I would have hit her with my car. She had, like, a wide-eyed, panicked kind of look. I figured if she was willing to risk being hit by a car trying to get somebody’s attention that she must really need some help.”
Sutton said she pulled off the highway and called 911. Dozens of other drivers also called 911 on Sherri’s behalf.

 

[bluesneakers]

I guess I should elaborate a little more. It was 7 minutes from the time of the video until she was found. It took a few minutes to get from the Kingdom Hall to where she was found. So the window of time is smaller, 4 minutes or less.

Can you tell on the map how far she travelled? When I do directions it comes up about half a mile but I assume she ran and didn't follow the roads.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I guess I should elaborate a little more. It was 7 minutes from the time of the video until she was found. It took a few minutes to get from the Kingdom Hall to where she was found. So the window of time is smaller, 4 minutes or less.

50 yards from the church to where she started trying to flag people down, correct? That's seconds rather than minutes, unless I'm missing something. I probably am.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Can you tell on the map how far she travelled? When I do directions it comes up about half a mile but I assume she ran and didn't follow the roads.

I put the distance at about 1/3rd of a mile (1750ft) or more.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I put the distance at about 1/3rd of a mile (1750ft) or more.

Then why does Sgt Jackson say 50 yards?

https://www.google.com/amp/people.c...video-sherri-papini-before-she-was-found/amp/

"Jackson says the place of worship where Papini was seen is located about 50 yards from Interstate 5..."

 

[Jethro4WS]

50 yards from the church to where she started trying to flag people down, correct? That's seconds rather than minutes, unless I'm missing something. I probably am.

Not if she was found south of the Yolo interchange. She was about 1/3rd of a mile in distance from the Kingdom Hall.

When we see Sherri going away from the Kingdom Hall she is going is the direction (more or less) of the yellow arrow.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Then why does Sgt Jackson say 50 yards?

https://www.google.com/amp/people.c...video-sherri-papini-before-she-was-found/amp/

"Jackson says the place of worship where Papini was seen is located about 50 yards from Interstate 5..."

Don't know why he would say that since there is no way the Kingdom Hall is within 50 yards of the road itself. The ENTRANCE RAMP to I-5 North right at Highway 17 is probably close to 50 yards (maybe a little bit more) as the crow flies. Measure the distances on Google Maps you will see that the parking lot alone is over 180 feet in distance in the direction of I-5 to the west.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Not if she was found south of the Yolo interchange. She was about 1/3rd of a mile in distance from the Kingdom Hall.

When we see Sherri going away from the Kingdom Hall she is going is the direction (more or less) of the yellow arrow.

And do we have another reference to her being S of Yolo other than the original dispatch audio in which that is stated?