Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

[Deleted member 158085]

It's a long way to go from 87 pounds to full-flesh. And she's not especially petite.

Not if her normal weight was 100. I went from nearly 140 to about 106 very quickly when I was not well last year and I don't think my hands changed. At least nothing with how my rings fit changed. And when I did start to regain, it only took a few weeks to put on 10 to 15 pounds.

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[Hope4More]

Here's what I can say based on my experience with something similar. I'd have to guess if I could have communicated to LE because I didn't. I chose not to report. Part of it was because I didn't trust LE to believe me about what happened and why. Part of it was also that I didn't want it known in the community for the same reasons. People can be skeptical of women's reporting in particular. I instinctively knew that even at 17.

I also tend to suspect that what happened to her was payback, maybe because that's basically what happened to me (although my payback was for having done something good, not bad).

I tend to lean towards believing she was held against her will, but that she doesn't want to discuss it because she doesn't want the circumstances to be known.

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I agree that it seems likely what happened was payback. Adding that I think if so, it helps explain the weirdness of SP being held for that long then inexplicably released. There would have been little to no way for whoever took her to have known how much media attention SP's disappearance would receive. Maybe they miscalculated & thought they could wait it out (returning SP) til the circus died down. Pure speculation, of course​.

I do think SP was traumatized, but I'd also bet her (alleged)inability to remember much (if that's accurate) is complicated- a mix of trauma, reluctance to tell, and fear. The fact that a majority of folks don't seem to believe or like her at all probably doesn't provide much of an incentive for her to be more forthcoming either.

 

[natsound]

I agree that it seems likely what happened was payback. Adding that I think if so, it helps explain the weirdness of SP being held for that long then inexplicably released. There would have been little to no way for whoever took her to have known how much media attention SP's disappearance would receive. Maybe they miscalculated & thought they could wait it out (returning SP) til the circus died down. Pure speculation, of course​.

I do think SP was traumatized, but I'd also bet her (alleged)inability to remember much (if that's accurate) is complicated- a mix of trauma, reluctance to tell, and fear. The fact that a majority of folks don't seem to believe or like her at all probably doesn't provide much of an incentive for her to be more forthcoming either.

BBM

I don't believe that's true. I think SP and her supporters could use that as an excuse for her lack of recall, but it's a flimsy excuse. If she were innocent she would have more of an explanation. There are certain parts of her story that simply cannot be explained in her version of events, which IMO is WHY she has no explanation.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

I see no difference.
Middle picture is after she came home. First and last from days before she left.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-captors-leaves-home-husband-two-kids.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...napped-Sherri-Papini-reveals-100k-reward.html

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/crime/driver-recalls-sherri-papini-on-side-of-the-road/190174356

MOO

 

[Dushi]

Like to? Wrong term, no one *likes* to talk about the most horrifying things a person can experience. In my situation, there are details I will never discuss with anyone, too much trauma/pain. Avoid? Depends on the circumstances. With friends, family, I will discuss it, although there are limits to how much I can talk about. Therapist, will talk more to, but still there's a point where I have to stop. Coworkers, avoid, only discuss in general terms to those I am close to and consider friends.

If pushed to talk about it... depends on who is pushing, but I have no problem saying that I can't talk about it.

So depends on the situation, time of day, whether I've had a dose of Xanax recently....

BUT no matter how difficult, if necessary I would absolutely give every last detail to LE, medical personnel, etc.

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Thank you for sharing WEC:wave:

 

[Dushi]

Not sure about this source.
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Ms Papini was unable to provide more detailed descriptions because the women had kept their faces covered most of the time, and sometimes covered hers.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2294597/sherri-papini-kidnap-rumours-hoax-latest/

 

[MarisaS1985]

I think the answers from everyone who posted about their own PTSD and communication are really broad. A couple of people didn't go to LE at all, one said it was because of social stigma and knowing it wouldn't be of much use. I went to LE and gave lengthy statements and it still didn't result in any real justice... So if SP is a victim, in ANY way in all of this, she could be acting like any one of us, or she could be acting like all of us, or she could be doing her own things and it would all be considered normal. JMO

As for the weight, I imagine much of that was likely due to dehydration. She was likely fighting and causing herself to sweat a lot. I have no clue if they have said anything about food/water, but they may have been giving her a bottle of water or two a day or they may have been taking great care and the stress caused the weight loss. She is not a healthy weight based on her missing poster, she was underweight at the time. Does she have an underlying health issue where she struggles to gain weight or maintain weight? Eating disorder? Over active thyroid? Does she live every day with a ton of anxiety and because of that can't get to a healthy weight?
When my mom got pregnant with me she was under 100lbs. She lived with her mom who caused her to have extreme anxiety and stress, she moved in with my dad shortly after they found out I was on the way and she calmed down significantly and began to look healthy in photos, not just weight, but the skin tone etc. I would really love to know if SP was eating or drinking regularly. Maybe she had access to water all the time (we do know she had access to a shower and the bathroom), but not access to food. I can only imagine how small, frail and damaged she would have looked to KP when she had been beaten and had lost a good 10+% of her already too small body weight. If she was normally 130 or 140lbs and had lost 13lbs, no one would have considered that very significant IMO

 

[Hope4More]

BBM

I don't believe that's true. I think SP and her supporters could use that as an excuse for her lack of recall, but it's a flimsy excuse. If she were innocent she would have more of an explanation. There are certain parts of her story that simply cannot be explained in her version of events, which IMO is WHY she has no explanation.

The lack of incentive portion of what I wrote /think is secondary to the issue of her lack of recall/willingness to talk, but for me, based on experience, understandable if accurate in her case.

I was raped- by a decorated Vietnam vet & cop- many years ago. I didn't report him because I was certain I wouldn't be believed. I told only one person about it, my soon to be fiance, months afterwards, and only because my aversion to having him even touch me had become understandably extremely distressing to him.

His response was enough to convince me never to tell anyone else who cared about me, which meant I didn't talk about it again to anyone for literally decades.

 

[DakotaMayi]

The lack of incentive portion of what I wrote /think is secondary to the issue of her lack of recall/willingness to talk, but for me, based on experience, understandable if accurate in her case.

I was raped- by a decorated Vietnam vet & cop- many years ago. I didn't report him because I was certain I wouldn't be believed. I told only one person about it, my soon to be fiance, months afterwards, and only because my aversion to having him even touch me had become understandably extremely distressing to him.

His response was enough to convince me never to tell anyone else who cared about me, which meant I didn't talk about it again to anyone for literally decades.

BBM.

This is concerning to hear. I'm sorry you experienced this in this way.

 

[Inthedetails]

The lack of incentive portion of what I wrote /think is secondary to the issue of her lack of recall/willingness to talk, but for me, based on experience, understandable if accurate in her case.

I was raped- by a decorated Vietnam vet & cop- many years ago. I didn't report him because I was certain I wouldn't be believed. I told only one person about it, my soon to be fiance, months afterwards, and only because my aversion to having him even touch me had become understandably extremely distressing to him.

His response was enough to convince me never to tell anyone else who cared about me, which meant I didn't talk about it again to anyone for literally decades.

((Hope4More))

 

[rsd1200]

Here's what I can say based on my experience with something similar. I'd have to guess if I could have communicated to LE because I didn't. I chose not to report. Part of it was because I didn't trust LE to believe me about what happened and why. Part of it was also that I didn't want it known in the community for the same reasons. People can be skeptical of women's reporting in particular. I instinctively knew that even at 17.

I also tend to suspect that what happened to her was payback, maybe because that's basically what happened to me (although my payback was for having done something good, not bad).

I tend to lean towards believing she was held against her will, but that she doesn't want to discuss it because she doesn't want the circumstances to be known.

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I think you nailed it.

 

[lonetraveler]

http://fox40.com/2016/11/29/husband...-mom-found-with-bag-over-head-chained-beaten/
"We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy."

Is it just me or does the bolded comment above seem a bit strange?

 

[Bootsctr]

Honestly? I saw that last year and thought she looked healthy! ( I have a friend who can wear children's clothing and is about her weight/height.) Had to take 3-4 looks to make sure it was even after the kidnapping. You can see her hair, peaking out, near her collar in the front, she looks happy, no facial bruising, etc... at leas that I could tell.

I agree. I don't think her hair looks shorn either. It looks to be pulled back in a loose ponytail or braid and/or tucked up under the cap. Her right arm shows either a scratch or it is just shadow from how she is extending her pointer finger. JMO.

 

[Bootsctr]

http://fox40.com/2016/11/29/husband...-mom-found-with-bag-over-head-chained-beaten/
"We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy."

Is it just me or does the bolded comment above seem a bit strange?

Yes, very strange. Fits in with the rest of the strangeness of this case to me. Kind of like ask us no questions, but please donate to our GoFundMe account. I still agree with posters who early on said this case was similar to "balloon boy."

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

http://fox40.com/2016/11/29/husband...-mom-found-with-bag-over-head-chained-beaten/
"We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy."

Is it just me or does the bolded comment above seem a bit strange?

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I'm not saying a word.

#pantsonfire

MOO

 

[Doghairrules]

The lack of incentive portion of what I wrote /think is secondary to the issue of her lack of recall/willingness to talk, but for me, based on experience, understandable if accurate in her case.

I was raped- by a decorated Vietnam vet & cop- many years ago. I didn't report him because I was certain I wouldn't be believed. I told only one person about it, my soon to be fiance, months afterwards, and only because my aversion to having him even touch me had become understandably extremely distressing to him.

His response was enough to convince me never to tell anyone else who cared about me, which meant I didn't talk about it again to anyone for literally decades.

That breaks my heart. [emoji22]

 

[lonetraveler]

Her Missing Posters reported her being 5'4" and 100lbs. She would have had to gain only 13 pounds in 7 weeks to be back to where she was.

Then the person who gave the description most likely had to guess her weight. She could have been lighter weight than given for the poster.

 

[rsd1200]

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I'm not saying a word.

#pantsonfire

MOO

Not a peep, for fear I'd be given a time-out. :silenced:

 

[Cannonball3804]

Then the person who gave the description most likely had to guess her weight. She could have been lighter weight than given for the poster.

In his 911 call, KP also gave her weight as 100 lbs.

 

[bears10]

http://fox40.com/2016/11/29/husband...-mom-found-with-bag-over-head-chained-beaten/
"We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy."

Is it just me or does the bolded comment above seem a bit strange?

I thought his entire statement was strange and incredibly hyperbolic. KP seems to have a flair for the dramatics.