Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #9

[creepcrusher]

Agree. They just mention 2 women and no real indications that this was sexualy or rapely related.

BUT if that was the case- why would LE say, "no comment" when asked if she was sexually assaulted? Wouldn't he just say NO?

If SP was SA does she have the right to keep that info confidential?


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[DatelineFan]

BBM; And every person, victim or perp has a HIPAA right to their specific medical record.

:cow:

Personally, I'd have been outraged if LE came out on Thursday and listed every injury Sherri had. That would be irresponsible for so many reasons.

 

[Aeronomy]

I don't believe that citizens will profile Hispanic women because of this case. I do hope that LE will profile any Hispanic women when doing a traffic stop of a dark SUV. JMO

IMO, citizens have already started profiling Hispanic women.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Unfortunately, that time also allows for a greater chance of false memories to be created.

I don't think so. Its only been a few days and I don't think Sherri will ever forget any of the minute details of what happened to her, when, and by whom during the time of her abduction.

 

[DeeMarie]

More pictures sold to the Daily Mail? I guess I would not be putting my child's photos in a news if the kidnappers are still out there.

'The most amazing Thanksgiving we could ask for': Sister speaks out as kidnapped supermom is reunited with her family after she was found battered and bound three weeks after being snatched while jogging

• Sherri Papini is 'doing good' after she was discovered dumped by the roadside on Thanksgiving Day - three weeks after she disappeared
• Police are now hunting for two Hispanic women considered armed and dangerous, and driving a dark SUV, over the kidnapping
• Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said that the description was based on 'voice recognition' - suggesting that Papini wasn't able to see her captors
• Her husband Keith had promised their two children that 'mommy' would be home by Thanksgiving
• Her father-in-law Ken said that her return was nothing short of a 'miracle'
• 'None of us imagined it might actually come true,' he told DailyMail.com
• Sherri vanished on November 2 while out jogging near her home
• The 34-year-old was found on Thursday at 4:30am 150 miles away
• Her sister Sheila Koaster said that social media and national news coverage 'was an intricate part in bringing her home to us'
• She declined to say whether a ransom had been involved in the release

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3976826/Sister-kidnapped-California-mom-heavily-battered-bound-dumped-roadside-three-weeks-kidnapped-says-return-amazing-Thanksgiving-ask-for.html

 

[DexterMorgan]

We don't know that only two women were involved.

You can believe what you wish, I'm not sure that a man or men where not involved in this case. I'm waiting for more information.

The police were looking for 2 women and suv or something.

No man has been mentioned as of yet.

 

[Steph9676]

Classy1 I agree LE does not owe us anything. My first reaction to them keeping quiet is that they new something and didn't want to put her life in danger or that they know something now and don't want to tip anyone off.

IMO I think that's why some people feel this case is off because of the lack or little information given but I'm sure there is a reason they are so quiet.

 

[greycoupon]

I don't believe that citizens will profile Hispanic women because of this case. I do hope that LE will profile any Hispanic women when doing a traffic stop of a dark SUV. JMO

And do what exactly? Arrest them for driving while brown? Yes, citizens will certainly profile Hispanic women considering LE told them to do so.

 

[DexterMorgan]

BUT if that was the case- why would LE say, "no comment" when asked if she was sexually assaulted? Wouldn't he just say NO?

If SP was SA does she have the right to keep that info confidential?


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Him and sis said no comment to mostly everything. Jmo

We still don't know what time she was abducted and the ruse used to abduct her..

So this could be isolated and personal as of now.

Idk

 

[InLiberataRegina]

I know many, many people still, to this day, question Elizabeth Smart's case. Super, super weird cr*p does happen that blows the lid off "statisctical" stuff. Not to mention Castro's victims in Cleveland, or Dahmer's victims. I could list so many more. I'm pretty sure we all could.

We live in a wicked world where wicked people do wicked things, and most of us struggle to wrap our heads around it.

moo.

Dahmer's victim escaped and alerted police, Smart was rescued by police, Berry escaped in the Castro case and alerted police. A wicked world indeed, but I specifically mentioned being released VOLUNTARILY after rape and other deviant things have occurred to the victim. I struggle to remember any cases like that involving high profile victims that were being searched for.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IMO, law enforcement owes the public nothing. They must have had their reasons for not disclosing more details of her captors. It seems that they don't feel as if the public is in danger. If they did, they'd say so.

The Sheriff did advise the public to be cautious. Of course I don't even think that is necessary because when things like this happen in any community they will be on heightened alert until the suspect/s is apprehended. That is just using good common sense, imo.

The public should remain cautious,” Bosenko said.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/sherr...ornia-facebook-photos-police-reward-gofundme/

 

[paris_paris]

Just a little off topic, but why can't I view the case map? It says I don't have access to the service.

And... I streetviewed the area where she may have been dropped off. If it's County Rd. 18 south of I5. So I have to say... it seems like about 50% of the time I view an area connected to any case I see a cop car. Really. Anyone else?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

IMO, citizens have already started profiling Hispanic women.

If you find something that backs up your opinion then post a link. Until then I'll just go with my own observations living in Northern California.

 

[Classy1]

BUT if that was the case- why would LE say, "no comment" when asked if she was sexually assaulted? Wouldn't he just say NO?

If SP was SA does she have the right to keep that info confidential?



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I wonder if LE is legally allowed to publicly report if someone was a victim of SA. When TK abducted KB and had her chained in a storage shed, the public was not told of her specific injuries or whether she'd been SA.

 

[greycoupon]

IMO, law enforcement owes the public nothing. They must have had their reasons for not disclosing more details of her captors. It seems that they don't feel as if the public is in danger. If they did, they'd say so.

If there is no danger then why release a description that describes a good chunk of the population. Why not wait until they have enough info to actually identify these women? This was incredibly irresponsible of them and the Hispanic community deserves better.

 

[Bootsctr]

Dahmer's victim escaped and alerted police, Smart was rescued by police, Berry escaped in the Castro case and alerted police. A wicked world indeed, but I specifically mentioned being released VOLUNTARILY after rape and other deviant things have occurred to the victim. I struggle to remember any cases like that involving high profile victims that were being searched for.

Lisa McVey.

Bobby Joe Long (born October 14, 1953), also known as Robert Joe Long and Robert Joseph Long, is an American serial killer, as of November 2016 on death row[1] in the state of Florida. Long abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered at least 10 women in the Tampa Bay Area during an eight-month period in 1984. He released his last victim, Lisa McVey, after raping her for a period of 26 hours. McVey provided information to the police that enabled them to track him down.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Joe_Long

 

[Deleted member 718]

Much to Dexter's dismay, I'd like to speak to the term battered. :blushing:

I had to look up the definition just to be sure, as I was wondering if it meant battered by another person, or battered by rolling down a hill, or falling down stairs, exposure to the elements etc..

Adj. 1. battered - damaged by blows or hard usage battered - damaged by blows or hard usage; "a battered old car"; "the beaten-up old Ford"

beaten-up, beat-up
damaged - harmed or injured or spoiled; "I won't buy damaged goods"; "the storm left a wake of badly damaged buildings"

2. battered - damaged especially by hard usage battered - damaged especially by hard usage; "his battered old hat"

worn - affected by wear; damaged by long use; "worn threads on the screw"; "a worn suit"; "the worn pockets on the jacket"

3. battered - exhibiting symptoms resulting from repeated physical and emotional injury battered - exhibiting symptoms resulting from repeated physical and emotional injury; "a battered child"; "the battered woman syndrome"

ill-treated, maltreated, mistreated, abused - subjected to cruel treatment; "an abused wife"

And, sadly, I'm still confused. :tantrum:


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/battered

 

[Gardener1850]

This makes no sense. They're not going to announce her injuries. Especially when they're still trying to figure out what happened. And the police certainly do send you home after being raped. There's only so much they can do.

:goodpost:I agree DatelineFan. LE also is careful not to identify rape victims--in high profile cases they cannot always avoid it but it is a general rule to be sensitive with that info. There is no reason to disclose that info to the public at this point. KB was held by Kohlhepp for 2 months and we STILL don't know if she was sexually assaulted during her captivity--police have not charged him with that and have not revealed that info yet, but she was held by a convicted rapist. It is not hard to guess what happened. In this case, we just don't know. Maybe Sherri was raped, I hope not, but we can't KNOW she wasn't. When they catch the perps and charge them with the specific crime(s) we may know what happened then. Knowing the details of Sherri's injuries will not give the public any info that would help find the perps any faster, IMO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Dahmer's victim escaped and alerted police, Smart was rescued by police, Berry escaped in the Castro case and alerted police. A wicked world indeed, but I specifically mentioned being released VOLUNTARILY after rape and other deviant things have occurred to the victim. I struggle to remember any cases like that involving high profile victims that were being searched for.

My point was simply this:

Sometimes a case appears here that challenges everything WE think we know, based on stats, profiles or whatever. It DOES happen. For whatever reason I thought of the girl in the UK today where she went missing and it was her putrid step-brother that killed her. Forgive me for not remembering her name right now.

All I know it is this: My heart goes out to Sherri, her hubby, her kids, and those who love her.

LE will sort all of this out. They always do.

 

[Bootsctr]

The Sheriff did advise the public to be cautious. Of course I don't even think that is necessary because when things like this happen in any community they will be on heightened alert until the suspect/s is apprehended. That is just using good common sense, imo.

The public should remain cautious,” Bosenko said.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/sherr...ornia-facebook-photos-police-reward-gofundme/

Thank you! And I think it goes without saying. . . Use common sense. Cops don't have to tell me to be on high alert when a woman has been kidnapped in an area where one lives.