Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #15 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[sarx]

I don't think it's a big deal at all, but someone commented earlier that it was odd that Marlene put lunch money in Sierra's purse and some of us were just saying that we didn't think that it was that odd.

Oh goodness, clearly my brain is not functioning properly. What would be the normal thing to do with lunch money?

 

[cluciano63]

Oh goodness, clearly my brain is not functioning properly. What would be the normal thing to do with lunch money?

I thought it was a little unusual that she zipped the bag up after putting the money in, only because wouldn't Sierra still be using her purse probably several more times that morning? It had to be 6am or earlier when Mom put the money in, if that is when she left. That was my only thing of note, that she mentioned zipping the bag shut. JMO

 

[Fashionista_Gal]

I thought it was a little unusual that she zipped the bag up after putting the money in, only because wouldn't Sierra still be using her purse probably several more times that morning? It had to be 6am or earlier when Mom put the money in, if that is when she left. That was my only thing of note, that she mentioned zipping the bag shut. JMO

Eh, I don't think that is that big of a deal either. Many women zip their purses up all the time out of habit. It's not that difficult to just unzip it. MOO

 

[MtnDweller]

I thought it was a little unusual that she zipped the bag up after putting the money in, only because wouldn't Sierra still be using her purse probably several more times that morning? It had to be 6am or earlier when Mom put the money in, if that is when she left. That was my only thing of note, that she mentioned zipping the bag shut. JMO

Maybe it's as simple as, the bag was zipped when she put the money in the bag, so she zipped it back up afterwards.

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

You are correct no big deal but wait now I am cornfused was the money found in the purse with the clothes ? Laffin

They have not mentioned money. They reported neatly folded clothing and other personal items, but to my knowledge have never specified what those personal items were.

 

[MtnDweller]

it's not the subject, it was the not so subtle innuendos that she brought it up to cover something up, supposedly she's evasive, lying, 'hinky', controlling, etc etc...many of the comments weren't really about the money, they were either about her character or beat around the bush accusations of complicity in sierra's disappearance. Seriously, the targeting of that poor mother has been relentless, and imo there is no logical basis for it. That's what set me off, not the more general discussion on the subject.

All jmo

Best post of the day ...

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe it's as simple as, the bag was zipped when she put the money in the bag, so she zipped it back up afterwards.

I am sure that is all it is...
Just curious what else was already in the bag, I guess...wish someone had asked her about it. JMO

 

[JTribley]

I don't think it's a big deal at all, but someone commented earlier that it was odd that Marlene put lunch money in Sierra's purse and some of us were just saying that we didn't think that it was that odd.

Exactly.


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[itsashame]

good evening all! I am in deep thought at the moment about a few things;

first I am imagining the perp placing the purse by the shed. Does he have gloves on? Did he use something like a towel under the purse handles to carry it to the spot it was found?

second is he nervous and needs to rid himself of these items? Maybe he's close in the investigation and he was afraid that they(LE) would eventually make there way to him for questioning and he couldn't be found with these items?

third is, I wonder why LE chose to release the information about the folded clothes? If they are holding other things back, seems like this is very specific and would have been something that only the perp would know...Was LE sending someone a message? If so what would that say? Just seems curious after thinking about it that this specific part would have been released to the public, when supposedly they are holding other things back.

 

[cluciano63]

good evening all! I am in deep thought at the moment about a few things;

first I am imagining the perp placing the purse by the shed. Does he have gloves on? Did he use something like a towel under the purse handles to carry it to the spot it was found?

second is he nervous and needs to rid himself of these items? Maybe he's close in the investigation and he was afraid that they(LE) would eventually make there way to him for questioning and he couldn't be found with these items?

third is, I wonder why LE chose to release the information about the folded clothes? If they are holding other things back, seems like this is very specific and would have been something that only the perp would know...Was LE sending someone a message? If so what would that say? Just seems curious after thinking about it that this specific part would have been released to the public, when supposedly they are holding other things back.

Yeah, I don't get that sending a message re: folded clothes either. The person who did it already knows the clothes were folded. And that the bag was found. So what was the point of even saying it? Unless they were thinking, because they were neatly folded, they could not really tell if the bag and been packed by someone other than Sierra, since everything was neat inside. JMO

 

[rosesfromangels]

If Sierra and her mother had a good relationship, opening her bag (isn't it more of a book bag anyway vs. a "purse?") wouldn't be a big deal. If they have a strained relationship then I could see where it would be intrusive to the teen.

THAT SAID...if I had a teen that was troubled, I would make it clear that I would be searching everything and anything and at anytime of my choosing. As an adult I see it as my responsibility to know what is going on and keep a child safe. Sometimes you have to cross those privacy boundries. Once behavior improves and trust is earned, then slowly the lines of privacy can be restored. This is just my approach, and JMO.

Regarding the mother...well, she's definately offbeat, but that really doesn't matter. Her personal style isn't at question here, just her forthrightness. As far as her giving Sierra money every day vs. once a week....well, perhaps she's not sure how much she's going to have day in and day out to give?
Despite the mother's unusual communication style, one very positive thing stands out. I recall Sierra (in one of her online comments) complaining she was sick,and was SO annoyed because everytime she coughed, her mother would holler out to make sure she was o.k. Now that isn't something a mother who doesn't care about her daughter would do...

 

[MtnDweller]

If Sierra and her mother had a good relationship, opening her bag (isn't it more of a book bag anyway vs. a "purse?") wouldn't be a big deal. If they have a strained relationship then I could see where it would be intrusive to the teen.

THAT SAID...if I had a teen that was troubled, I would make it clear that I would be searching everything and anything and at anytime of my choosing. As an adult I see it as my responsibility to know what is going on and keep a child safe. Sometimes you have to cross those privacy boundries. Once behavior improves and trust is earned, then slowly the lines of privacy can be restored. This is just my approach, and JMO.

Regarding the mother...well, she's definately offbeat, but that really doesn't matter. Her personal style isn't at question here, just her forthrightness. As far as her giving Sierra money every day vs. once a week....well, perhaps she's not sure how much she's going to have day in and day out to give?
Despite the mother's unusual communication style, one very positive thing stands out. I recall Sierra (in one of her online comments) complaining she was sick,and was SO annoyed because everytime she coughed, her mother would holler out to make sure she was o.k. Now that isn't something a mother who doesn't care about her daughter would do...

Her mother may have called out to Sierra when she coughed because Sierra has asthma, and she was concerned about her breathing.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I don't really think this is strange at all. My mom would just shove money in my purse for lunch when I was in high school. She didn't place it in my wallet, but it was technically just shoved into the very top of my bag. I was a very responsible teenager and never got into any trouble. My mom often had to leave before I did for work so that was just the easiest way for her to make sure I had money to buy lunch. We would always forget to do it the night before. She didn't do it every day, but she would a few days a week depending on how much cash she had on hand. I never thought of it as an invasion of privacy. We don't like to carry a lot of cash on us in my family so she would often only have small bills to give me which would not get me through the whole week.

In fact, I am now in grad school and married and when I go to visit her, still to this day, whenever I am packing up my car to leave to drive back up to school, she sneaks money in my purse for gas. I don't ask for it, but she knows living on a grad student budget is difficult.

Oh Fashionista Gal, my mama did the same thing for me.

I'm sure you love her and let her know it frequently.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I'm surprised that the shed hasn't been torn apart and checked forensically in more detail. It's been said that tracking dogs didn't show SL was at the shed, but no mention of HR dogs checking...
If the clothing in the Juicy bag is what she was wearing that day, (and now we know ML did go into the bag that mourning and might know if they are) then odds are IMO she was made to take them off in the shed.

BBM

We do know from a verified poster that there are 6 dogs available to LE in the area (am blanking on the name of the county). Four out of the 6 are cross trained, meaning they both track and do human remains detection.

So assuming that LE never even thought of having HRD trained dogs check the shed, there's still a 2 out of 3 chance that one did.

 

[GrainneDhu]

This latest junk with the lunch money just reinforces my impression that 'hinky' and the like are really just 'this person doesn't do things exactly like I do, and I don't like it'.

Seriously, most of the time when I see this kind of nit-picking criticism, it's because people just don't like the person in question.

Sad how we treat family members who are brave enough to go in front of the cameras over & over again for their loved ones, when they probably just feel like they want to curl up & die...

All JMO

Thank you, I think alike.

Besides, I don't get how someone leaving MONEY in a purse would be unwelcome.

If leaving money in my purse is disrespectful, I wish people would disrespect me a whole lot more.

Really, that's okay! Disrespect me more! I can take a whole lot more of that disrespect!

 

[GrainneDhu]

Color me confused, but why is the money thing a big deal?

Because Marlene didn't put the money in my purse!!!

 

[GrainneDhu]

Oh goodness, clearly my brain is not functioning properly. What would be the normal thing to do with lunch money?

Give it to me, of course!

Try to keep up.

 

[Cottontop]

The forum is awesome because we all want so badly to figure out what happened to a beautiful girl on her way to school one morning. That is why we analyze and dig and discuss every single detail that we can possibly find.

But, if we have nothing new to sleuth, instead of getting grumpy with each other over non-issues, like money in a purse, we should just use this forum to send good thoughts to the family and to Sierra, wherever she may be.

“In all things it is better to hope than to despair” ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quotes

 

[dog.gone.cute]

JMO and MOO ...

According to the TOS, it is allowed to have an "opposing viewpoint" or an "opposing opinion" than what is considered to be the "popular opinion" ... However, what is NOT allowed is to violate the TOS ...

So with that being said, IMO, there are inconsistencies in Marlene's statements and interviews, especially her interviews with NG on 3-23-12 and 4-6-12 ... as well as IMO, I find her to be very "evasive" to some points that I consider "important" ...

Again, all JMO and MOO ...:moo:


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And a HUGE THANKS to askfornina for this Timeline !!!

 

[cluciano63]

The forum is awesome because we all want so badly to figure out what happened to a beautiful girl on her way to school one morning. That is why we analyze and dig and discuss every single detail that we can possibly find.

But, if we have nothing new to sleuth, instead of getting grumpy with each other over non-issues, like money in a purse, we should just use this forum to send good thoughts to the family and to Sierra, wherever she may be.

“In all things it is better to hope than to despair” ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quotes

Personally, I wish there were separate threads for people just wanting to send prayers or good thoughts, in all of these cases...I see that a post has been added to a thread and get excited that maybe there is news, but it is so often a wish for the best or prayers being sent. Anyway, I know that sounds really grinchy but I am always looking for anything new in these cases...JMO