Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #19 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[sarx]

I know it has been talked about amongst Klass about the merits of making a video, time, and expertise can be hard to coordinate. I hope that as volunteer searches like this become more common something like that is done. It certainly would have saved me some of my wall head banging!

 

[OldSteve]

(this was for yesterday)
Car Wash Today to Raise Funds for Sierra LaMar Search -
http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/car-wash-today-to-raise-funds-for-sierra-lamar-search

Article also mentions:
"He's scheduled to return to court on Tuesday"

" charged with murdering Sierra as well as a special circumstance allegation that he murdered her during a kidnapping"

 

[rosesfromangels]

Thank you! <BLUSH>

I've sent an email to KlaasKids (it was tough finding an email address for them!). If they say they don't think they can do it, then I will try the documentary maker. Since this is email, I can just keep pitching until someone agrees to catch!

I am disabled and no longer able to train dogs or search, so this is a way I can still help. Thank you for pointing it out.

God Bless You. Total brilliance. The angels have whispered in your ear....

 

[rosesfromangels]

Does anyone happen to know what this guy did to support his family besides going "fishing?" Was he on unemployment? If not, what was he doing to make money? I know he was living in a trailer with his mother, but he still needed money for gas and all of his many excusions as per the videos. Where was this money coming from?

 

[GrainneDhu]

Does anyone happen to know what this guy did to support his family besides going "fishing?" Was he on unemployment? If not, what was he doing to make money? I know he was living in a trailer with his mother, but he still needed money for gas and all of his many excusions as per the videos. Where was this money coming from?

I can't cite the MSM source but I think I recall reading that he was doing stuff like tree trimming and selling scrap metal.

The impression I got, that may well be completely wrong, is that he was picking up work on an irregular basis, as he could find it. Perhaps he had a few contacts that would hire him when they needed another pair of hands?

 

[OldSteve]

I can't cite the MSM source but I think I recall reading that he was doing stuff like tree trimming and selling scrap metal.

The impression I got, that may well be completely wrong, is that he was picking up work on an irregular basis, as he could find it. Perhaps he had a few contacts that would hire him when they needed another pair of hands?

BBM -
Perhaps in seeking out scrap metal, that's how he spotted Sierra alone waiting for the school bus.
The thought of her standing out in the open alone like that just is so sad! (I know we've discussed this allot, but it just got to me again...)...

 

[Whisperer]

I am assuming Sierra is not clothed. This makes the search very difficult.

A deceased adult human left out in the warm enviornment would completely skeletonize within 14 days. If she was not clothed, he could have tossed her down a ravine out there @ Uvas. It would be highly unlikely to be found.

This is what happened to Chandra Levy, found after a year, but she was clothed and it made her ID easier.

This guy seemed like he was starting a serial killer type of lifestyle. He unclothed his victim and returned all of her belongings to her neighborhood. He seemed to have had time on his side to do this.

 

[Eileen730]

BBM -
Perhaps in seeking out scrap metal, that's how he spotted Sierra alone waiting for the school bus.
The thought of her standing out in the open alone like that just is so sad! (I know we've discussed this allot, but it just got to me again...)...

Not only that but if he was watching he knew her mom and Bf left early so he knew she was alone!

 

[Whisperer]

I recall a neighbor who lived at the bottom of her street say there was an hispanic guy who walked back and forth in front of his house for weeks. His House was on Dougherty. He said the guy was pacing and talking on his cell all the time. He woulld look up the street. He had not seen him since Sierra went missing.

He told me his dog jumped the guy once and he got a good look at him. Of course, we will never know if it was AGT or a farm worker searching for a ride.

 

[cazador]

I am assuming Sierra is not clothed. This makes the search very difficult.

A deceased adult human left out in the warm enviornment would completely skeletonize within 14 days. If she was not clothed, he could have tossed her down a ravine out there @ Uvas. It would be highly unlikely to be found.

This is what happened to Chandra Levy, found after a year, but she was clothed and it made her ID easier.

This guy seemed like he was starting a serial killer type of lifestyle. He unclothed his victim and returned all of her belongings to her neighborhood. He seemed to have had time on his side to do this.

Again, I was out for one day this weekend in the canyon areas. I am positive you are correct in theory. "The clothes" are upsetting. For more then one reason for me... I am so pissed at LE for having us look at cloth in early searches. They wasted a lot of valuable time in volunteers.
So..anyways.. The search continues to bring Sierra home to her family so that they will know where Sierra is.

She could also be in a 55 gallon drum with Lime. This method is very popular in Mexico. He could put the body in a creek bed with powder lime covering it and then rocks on top of the body.
This family does come from Mexico. His father is a Mexican national from what I can see. We have seen the suspect on video smoking something. It could be "Heroin" "Cocaine" "Crack" "Pot" or Crank" ... He could be connected to drug dealers from Mexico. The drugs alter the mind, so let us hope and pray that he made some mistake and we do find her.

 

[cazador]

He may simply have been lucky in where he left her body.

I just got done reading an article by Ann Rule in which the victim was actually found in someone's backyard... two years after she disappeared. Granted, it was a large lot (one and a half acres) and the back property line was covered in blackberry brambles.

The victim's remains were found when the property owner decided to get rid of the blackberry brambles. In the Pacific northwest, the brambles are so thick that a dog can't get through them, let alone a human being.

My guess is that AGT left her body somewhere that is difficult or nearly impossible for a human to reach on foot. When I look at maps of the area, it seems to me that there are lots of places that fit that description.

IF He took her to a friends house ... it is all very possible. That friend will Not snitch on him. It is "code" of gang and this generation.
jmho

 

[cazador]

This is not an a unusal amount of time for a search. There are many searches I have been on where no body was ever found. Many times the remains of a victim are found in an area that was searched previous.
We have had over 8000 average american citizen volunteer so far as well as the professional teams from the sheriff, who have given untold amount of time is searches. The Santa Cruz mountain ranges have been used for body dumping forever and many remains have been found many years later.
There is no fail in the attempt. We just do our best and hope for the best.
2 thumbs up for KlassKids foundation and all of their support group, The sheriff's search teams and ALL of the volunteers who have stepped up and spent any amount of time and effort to help. It is an American thing to step forward when called upon and I love and admire that is all of us.
jmho

 

[ozazure]

Again, I was out for one day this weekend in the canyon areas. I am positive you are correct in theory. "The clothes" are upsetting. For more then one reason for me... I am so pissed at LE for having us look at cloth in early searches. They wasted a lot of valuable time in volunteers.
So..anyways.. The search continues to bring Sierra home to her family so that they will know where Sierra is.

She could also be in a 55 gallon drum with Lime. This method is very popular in Mexico. He could put the body in a creek bed with powder lime covering it and then rocks on top of the body.
This family does come from Mexico. His father is a Mexican national from what I can see. We have seen the suspect on video smoking something. It could be "Heroin" "Cocaine" "Crack" "Pot" or Crank" ... He could be connected to drug dealers from Mexico. The drugs alter the mind, so let us hope and pray that he made some mistake and we do find her.

Given he lives in the trailer with his mother and doesn't have a steady job, do you think he'd have the spare money to buy that stuff? I expect a 55 gallon drum and enough lime would run you a fair bit. And then it's a lot more conspicuous than what her remains may be in an isolated area?

 

[leighmarker]

what a shame, it getting to be people cannot go outside of their own front door without being afraid.

Well kept for here, we all carry guns! lol

 

[sreshowtime]

poor Sierra- I had so hoped she would be found by now. I fear her abductor has buried her in an out of the way location, maybe in a wooded area, perhaps close to one of the bodies of water that have so interested LE. I wonder how many of AG's acquaintances own land or have access to uninhabited tracts...that may be totally unaware that he could have be creeping around..........

 

[cazador]

Given he lives in the trailer with his mother and doesn't have a steady job, do you think he'd have the spare money to buy that stuff? I expect a 55 gallon drum and enough lime would run you a fair bit. And then it's a lot more conspicuous than what her remains may be in an isolated area?

FYI.. I live in the area and grew up here..

I have been looking around where he used to live.."where his childhood and friends base originated" It is not far from where he and his girlfriend, sister, mother and child live currantly.. On that street where he grew up, it is rural and industrial as well as farm based AND it is close to town "Morgan Hill"
It is an area of mixed use and the farming and industrial buildings have empty 55 gallon drums outside and accessable .. The farming side is mostly "hot house" and bags of, and piles of products used to stabilize soil is abundant. Lime corrects acid soil and helps balance soil pH to improve fertilizer efficiency. A sod farm is only 1/2 mile away from Sierras home which uses that product and they also hire illegal people to work at that operation and many other operations in and around Both the currant and past residence of Garcia as well as where Sierra lived.

I hope that helps explain my thinking on this subject.
I do wonder what his father has been doing to make money the years he has been here ... He looks in the photo to be a farm worker in my opinion. He may have illegal buddies and all may have access to these items. He grew up here and I am positive he knows lots of these people. They wont say anything because they are illegal. They came across the border with coyote help and they have a bill to pay for that. They will keep their mouth shut even if a body was laid out in front of them.
There are more then 50,000 illegals in our area this time of year and certain polititions and social interest groups support them and the business who hire them. Still they are illegal.

 

[cazador]

If nothing else .. Lime by the bag at the local Home Depot is 14.97 per bag. ... One bag would be more then enough.
This method is widely talked about in the Mexican News media and in Movies created for entertainment. This boy is a drug addict with a warped mind. His father leads the way and is in jail for it too.

I do believe he is drug addict and a half mind blown fool. I do believe he has placed her in the woods or down a steep canyon wall or possibly buried her under rocks in a creek bed or in soft dirt in a fast effort. BUT the clothes being brought back and placed. The arrogance of it makes one wonder..That He may have a friend and that is where he took her and she would then possibly be placed on private land OR private water like a pond or back yard access to a river. I and many others continue to search on that thought. It is a common thought. We do search the same areas over and over again because it has happened time and time again where a body is found in a place already searched.
I appreciate your thoughts and researched posts. I do come in and read them even if I am not here every day.
Thank You Sleuth's

 

[sreshowtime]

Cazador, have y'all looked over around the Gilroy Hot Springs Road cave?

 

[cazador]

Cazador, have y'all looked over around the Gilroy Hot Springs Road cave?

I know others have been in that area and although I have been to the Hot Spring area I have not searched it yet.
It is "On The Map"
..Good thought.. Thank You

 

[sreshowtime]

Cazador How about along/around Old Oak Creek Ave, just south of where Oak Glen Ave runs into Uvas? It appears to go back a ways before being gated. That appears to be an interesting area where those 3 rds meet.