CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #1

[nikb]

If random, I think her body would have been found, especially if a gang-type thing. Hiding a body would not be as essential if the perp(s) could not be linked to her in any way.

Good point... if they didn't care about wallet, car, etc. a random 'they' probably wouldn't care about her body being found either.

 

[Frannie]

It is difficult/challenging to make sense of a motive for Susan. I could give examples of motives, but since we are "limited" on what we can say here, I can't express the realm of All ideas.
I hope Susan is found alive, and if not, I hope her remains are found.
Susan deserves that!
I want to keep posting on Susan but I feel I don't have anything to add except fantasy ideas what could have happened to her, which I don't believe happened to her.
God Bless you Susan, and there are Many People that care about you. IMOO.
I will check in from time to time, but for now I bid adieau.
IMOO.

I agree with you 100%. I am quite sure that if I was missing (and I am much older than she is and I have a very run of the mill marriage) my husband would not be playing games on the computer/internet but would be busy making eye catching posters, calling everyone he knows to organize search parties and my child would also be very active coming up with all kinds of ideas and would not leave the medias to forget me.

I cant believe how easy it seems to make someone disappear (usually children) and then lay back, dont say a word and eventually the case will go cold. In a few months you have them declared dead and you just go on with your life as if that person never existed.

I agree with treelights, I will now be back only occasionally as I no longer expect anything to happen. Adieu

 

[Kjac22]

I agree with you 100%. I am quite sure that if I was missing (and I am much older than she is and I have a very run of the mill marriage) my husband would not be playing games on the computer/internet but would be busy making eye catching posters, calling everyone he knows to organize search parties and my child would also be very active coming up with all kinds of ideas and would not leave the medias to forget me.

I cant believe how easy it seems to make someone disappear (usually children) and then lay back, dont say a word and eventually the case will go cold. In a few months you have them declared dead and you just go on with your life as if that person never existed.

I agree with treelights, I will now be back only occasionally as I no longer expect anything to happen. Adieu

The quote I believe you are referring to was one taken from his discussion with the Sac Bee reporter as they were talking about what my dad does at the end of the day to keep the bad thoughts from "consuming" him. Unfortunately it seems this was written or read out of context to construe this is what he does all day - I don't think this was the reporter's intention - but probably not the best context for that particular discussion. The family in general has not done a great job of communicating everything about what is being done - probably for many reasons, ranging from being a small, private family in general, to not wanting to publicize some things to avoid jeopardizing some possible leads, and feeling a little burned from the media a time or two.

One thing I have learned from all this is that the snapshot you get from media can be wide-ranging - either due to manipulation, lack of context and/or information, perception of either the writer or reader, or just maybe a bad choice of words at a difficult time (this ain't Hollywood - you only get one shot). In my past life I've been too quick to judge (who hasn't) - but after being on this side there is just so much that outsiders don't see and can't understand. For the sake of other families whose love ones are or will be on this site, my biggest takeaway is that I hope we can just do our best to offer encouraging and supportive words rather than judgments on limited information. Okay, off my soapbox.

 

[radiator]

The quote I believe you are referring to was one taken from his discussion with the Sac Bee reporter as they were talking about what my dad does at the end of the day to keep the bad thoughts from "consuming" him. Unfortunately it seems this was written or read out of context to construe this is what he does all day - I don't think this was the reporter's intention - but probably not the best context for that particular discussion. The family in general has not done a great job of communicating everything about what is being done - probably for many reasons, ranging from being a small, private family in general, to not wanting to publicize some things to avoid jeopardizing some possible leads, and feeling a little burned from the media a time or two.

One thing I have learned from all this is that the snapshot you get from media can be wide-ranging - either due to manipulation, lack of context and/or information, perception of either the writer or reader, or just maybe a bad choice of words at a difficult time (this ain't Hollywood - you only get one shot). In my past life I've been too quick to judge (who hasn't) - but after being on this side there is just so much that outsiders don't see and can't understand. For the sake of other families whose love ones are or will be on this site, my biggest takeaway is that I hope we can just do our best to offer encouraging and supportive words rather than judgments on limited information. Okay, off my soapbox.

Thanks, Kjac, I can only imagine how difficult this is for you and your dad. Being fairly private myself I hope I never find myself in a situation where I am simultaneously suffering from a great loss and having to expose myself to strangers in order to get help.

 

[Eileen730]

When a loved one goes missing who cares aboutbyournprivacy?

 

[bright_shadow]

The quote I believe you are referring to was one taken from his discussion with the Sac Bee reporter as they were talking about what my dad does at the end of the day to keep the bad thoughts from "consuming" him. Unfortunately it seems this was written or read out of context to construe this is what he does all day - I don't think this was the reporter's intention - but probably not the best context for that particular discussion. The family in general has not done a great job of communicating everything about what is being done - probably for many reasons, ranging from being a small, private family in general, to not wanting to publicize some things to avoid jeopardizing some possible leads, and feeling a little burned from the media a time or two.

One thing I have learned from all this is that the snapshot you get from media can be wide-ranging - either due to manipulation, lack of context and/or information, perception of either the writer or reader, or just maybe a bad choice of words at a difficult time (this ain't Hollywood - you only get one shot). In my past life I've been too quick to judge (who hasn't) - but after being on this side there is just so much that outsiders don't see and can't understand. For the sake of other families whose love ones are or will be on this site, my biggest takeaway is that I hope we can just do our best to offer encouraging and supportive words rather than judgments on limited information. Okay, off my soapbox.

Kjac,
I understand the concern about the media. But for better or worse, they can be instrumental in focusing enough attention on a matter to facilitate either resolution, or a necessary change in the course of action being taken by authorities.

Have you considered asking the Roseville Police Dept. to kindly assign new investigators to the case? At this point, I would think a couple pairs of fresh eyes could only help, not hurt, the investigation.

Keeping you in my good thoughts, Kjac.

 

[LittleMissContrary]

Someone needs to ask the Sun City magazine to publish something about Susan.

 

[nikb]

Someone needs to ask the Sun City magazine to publish something about Susan.

They haven't yet?? I didn't know they have a community newsletter/magazine but makes sense they would. I completely agree, this should be done yesterday! I assumed if there was a neighborhood magazine/paper that this had been done already. If not, that's scary both for Susan and the residents.

 

[TxLady2]

The quote I believe you are referring to was one taken from his discussion with the Sac Bee reporter as they were talking about what my dad does at the end of the day to keep the bad thoughts from "consuming" him. Unfortunately it seems this was written or read out of context to construe this is what he does all day - I don't think this was the reporter's intention - but probably not the best context for that particular discussion. The family in general has not done a great job of communicating everything about what is being done - probably for many reasons, ranging from being a small, private family in general, to not wanting to publicize some things to avoid jeopardizing some possible leads, and feeling a little burned from the media a time or two.

One thing I have learned from all this is that the snapshot you get from media can be wide-ranging - either due to manipulation, lack of context and/or information, perception of either the writer or reader, or just maybe a bad choice of words at a difficult time (this ain't Hollywood - you only get one shot). In my past life I've been too quick to judge (who hasn't) - but after being on this side there is just so much that outsiders don't see and can't understand. For the sake of other families whose love ones are or will be on this site, my biggest takeaway is that I hope we can just do our best to offer encouraging and supportive words rather than judgments on limited information. Okay, off my soapbox.

Thank you for these words. I can only imagine what you are feeling, as well as your dad. It's so easy for some people to misconstrue what is said or not said, and reporters are not the most sensitive people in the world. Some don't seem to realize that these interviews are usually edited, so that taken out of context, words are misunderstood quite often.

I've always said that people should be very aware that if something like this happens in their family, their entire lives are going to be examined up one side and down the other. Things will come out that may be perfectly harmless, yet when media reports on them, it sounds terrible. On top of that, rumors sometimes become facts. Opinions mean nothing if one doesn't know the people they're forming these opinions on.

I'm sorry that you have had to experience this. I pray ever day that Susan will be found, so that your family can have some peace. I know this is difficult for you, but please be assured that most of us here feel empathy for you and your dad, and certainly don't intend to give you any extra grief.
God Bless.

 

[TxLady2]

When a loved one goes missing who cares aboutbyournprivacy?

You would, if this happened in your family. Or would you like to have all your skeletons dragged out of your closet and laid out for the whole world to see??

Problem is, there may not be any skeletons in their closet. Everything has just been speculations so far, despite the son assuring us that they had a normal life, nothing sneaky or suspicious going on in their lives.

I'm well aware of the statistics, but all cases don't fit the majority, we need to remember that.

 

[scmom]

Are there any further searches planned? Or is it just not that important to the community to try to find Susan? Why so quiet?

 

[nikb]

Are there any further searches planned? Or is it just not that important to the community to try to find Susan? Why so quiet?

Scmom, I know it's important to me personally but yes, it seems like it's just not a "big deal" to the community and frankly I don't get it. I do still keep my eyes open when I'm out and about but I honestly have no idea where she's even likely to be at this point. I've driven past that shopping center numerous times and been into stores in the area, and have yet to see much about her being missing. I talked to my friend at the rail yard very near here and he had no idea about it. He knows now, but it's been so long! I doubt she's near home, at least if she's still alive, as painful as it is to think and say that.

I've also been to the state fair a second time (yes, hubby and I are fair fanatics) and still, nothing. It's a VERY short drive from where she went missing, and they get around 10,000 visitors per day IIRC. I can't believe there's not even a flyer up and I can't even find the person who can officially "allow" one. I've seriously considered sneaking over there at 3am and putting one up... I doubt anyone knows who has permission to tear it down.

Why so quiet? I have that exact same question.

 

[Naes]

My first thought about the 4am time period was just that, that the car was placed there earlier than the time period suggested of between 7:15am and 7:30am. Others have pointed out that perhaps LE was stating if anybody had seen anything unusual between the times of 4am and noon. So, without clarification, there are several viewpoints.
If they meant that the car was put there earlier, like 4am, they are then doubting the husband's statement. IMOO.
If they are not doubting his statement, their statement is a catch all phrase then, because different conclusions can be made.IMOO.

I drive by this shopping center everyday. I live within walking distance to it. I usually am driving by just before 7:30 to take my son over to the middle school. The shopping center is very close to the high school and at 7:15 there are a lot of high school kids on the street walking to school. I have a very hard time see how this went down there at that time. I think it had to have happened sooner in the morning. There is just too much foot traffic and general business after 7am around there.

 

[Naes]

My first thought about the 4am time period was just that, that the car was placed there earlier than the time period suggested of between 7:15am and 7:30am. Others have pointed out that perhaps LE was stating if anybody had seen anything unusual between the times of 4am and noon. So, without clarification, there are several viewpoints.
If they meant that the car was put there earlier, like 4am, they are then doubting the husband's statement. IMOO.
If they are not doubting his statement, their statement is a catch all phrase then, because different conclusions can be made.IMOO.

I drive by this shopping center everyday. I live within walking distance to it. I usually am driving by just before 7:30 to take my son over to the middle school. The shopping center is very close to the high school and at 7:15 there are a lot of high school kids on the street walking to school. I have a very hard time see how this went down there at that time. I think it had to have happened sooner in the morning. There is just too much foot traffic and general business after 7am around there.

 

[liz b.]

Have just read the threads ; perplexing case. There are some very sharp people posting here, but just not much info to work with.

I read that SJ was not a social person, she didn't go out much. I wonder if the reason she went to the stores that early was because she didn't like crowds ? Was it her habit to shop very early in the morning ? If so, someone could have seen her there before. MOO

I wonder too if any other women had been approached in that parking lot in the days and weeks leading up to Susan's disappearance ? Hope LE has a description if so.

I could *speculate * that someone trolling for a victim may have seen Susan from behind. He may have believed her to be a much younger woman.( No disrespect intended). She was small,and slim, and her hair didn't look to have any grey in it. From reading on WS it is very apparent that a person can be abducted in minutes. And not make a sound. Susan was tiny, also making her an appealing victim.

She could have been grabbed as she exited her vehicle,before she had a chance to lock the car. The wallet being found ? Who knows ? I'm guessing she parked out of range of any cameras.And so did the perp.

Just some thoughts and JMO...

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Have just read the threads ; perplexing case. There are some very sharp people posting here, but just not much info to work with.

I read that SJ was not a social person, she didn't go out much. I wonder if the reason she went to the stores that early was because she didn't like crowds ? Was it her habit to shop very early in the morning ? If so, someone could have seen her there before. MOO

I wonder too if any other women had been approached in that parking lot in the days and weeks leading up to Susan's disappearance ? Hope LE has a description if so.

I could *speculate * that someone trolling for a victim may have seen Susan from behind. He may have believed her to be a much younger woman.( No disrespect intended). She was small,and slim, and her hair didn't look to have any grey in it. From reading on WS it is very apparent that a person can be abducted in minutes. And not make a sound. Susan was tiny, also making her an appealing victim.

She could have been grabbed as she exited her vehicle,before she had a chance to lock the car. The wallet being found ? Who knows ? I'm guessing she parked out of range of any cameras.And so did the perp.

Just some thoughts and JMO...

Yes she was known to usually leave and go shopping early in the mornings.

That's about all I know.

 

[cluciano63]

Have just read the threads ; perplexing case. There are some very sharp people posting here, but just not much info to work with.

I read that SJ was not a social person, she didn't go out much. I wonder if the reason she went to the stores that early was because she didn't like crowds ? Was it her habit to shop very early in the morning ? If so, someone could have seen her there before. MOO

I wonder too if any other women had been approached in that parking lot in the days and weeks leading up to Susan's disappearance ? Hope LE has a description if so.

I could *speculate * that someone trolling for a victim may have seen Susan from behind. He may have believed her to be a much younger woman.( No disrespect intended). She was small,and slim, and her hair didn't look to have any grey in it. From reading on WS it is very apparent that a person can be abducted in minutes. And not make a sound. Susan was tiny, also making her an appealing victim.

She could have been grabbed as she exited her vehicle,before she had a chance to lock the car. The wallet being found ? Who knows ? I'm guessing she parked out of range of any cameras.And so did the perp.

Just some thoughts and JMO...

Hi, Liz...
Susan's case keeps me up nights. I feel like she is a lot like me. I have some physical disabilities that also make me more prone to being a homebody and only go out to grocery shop, go to library and medical appointments, for the most part. And to walk, when I can, so I often park far away in lots to get a bit of walking in I would not get otherwise.

If other women had been approached or attacked in the area, one would hope there would be a huge outcry about Susan, yet there isn't. I just can't understand why her disappearance is not making more of a commotion among the senior population, if nothing else. And they are generally a vocal group.

I hope people are not writing this off in their heads as a "domestic" issue, therefore not a threat to their own safety. People, IMO, can be very dismissive of anything that they do not feel threatens them specifically. Of course we cannot say what type of event this is, but there is every possibility that Susan is a crime victim in any case. And yet, not enough people seem to be stirred.

 

[liz b.]

Yes she was known to usually leave and go shopping early in the mornings.

That's about all I know.

TY. I read that Susan was a person of very routine habits. So, I *assume* that she shopped in that store at that early hour fairly often. Could be something.MOO Wonder if the perp(s) also trolled the parking lot at such an early hour ? Would be great if anyone remembered seeing the same vehicle parked in the lot several early mornings in a row...

 

[liz b.]

Hi, Liz...
Susan's case keeps me up nights. I feel like she is a lot like me. I have some physical disabilities that also make me more prone to being a homebody and only go out to grocery shop, go to library and medical appointments, for the most part. And to walk, when I can, so I often park far away in lots to get a bit of walking in I would not get otherwise.

If other women had been approached or attacked in the area, one would hope there would be a huge outcry about Susan, yet there isn't. I just can't understand why her disappearance is not making more of a commotion among the senior population, if nothing else. And they are generally a vocal group.

I hope people are not writing this off in their heads as a "domestic" issue, therefore not a threat to their own safety. People, IMO, can be very dismissive of anything that they do not feel threatens them specifically. Of course we cannot say what type of event this is, but there is every possibility that Susan is a crime victim in any case. And yet, not enough people seem to be stirred.

CLUC, hI...Could it be that senior victims are not big ratings bringers ? Really,if not for WS, I doubt much would be known about most missing persons. moo

 

[liz b.]

Was it an all night market ? Did anyone working the graveyard shift get off around the time when Susan would have been arriving ? If she shopped there fairly often at an early hour, could someone getting off work have known her habits ? moo