CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #2

[Treelights]

Of course, when a child is missing, the media usually comes to you, at least for a while. But an adult is a very different story. Unless LE is talking and indicating that they have evidence of a crime, for example, everything is up to the families. I don't know...maybe they feel she had every right to up and leave if she wanted to. But it is hard to imagine that is what happened. JMO

I have read articles that state that both Susan's husband and her son believe that foul play has occurred.

I want to add to your post that if the family may feel she had every right to up and leave if she wanted to, and if she did leave on her own, then why leave, making it look like an abduction? Why not take the car and ID? So if they felt she could leave, why would she stage it? If she left on her own, was she then "afraid" to leave by asking for a divorce?? So she had to fake an abduction? If so, there must be a lot of discord in her 35 year marriage.
Susan's case has never added up.

IMOO.

 

[Seajay]

I have always felt it was odd. When I brought it up in the first thread for Susan, I got flack from several posters, because they didn't feel it was odd at all Not to look for her there when they felt that hours had transpired, but in my thinking, like I brought up when an item is missing....well where do you look for it? In the last place you had it... So, retracing steps is key.
For him Not to look for her in the place he knew she would be seems very strange to me, Regardless if hours would transpire......... That's how things are found. He could have found Susan's car instead of the police finding it.
But I guess the police Had to find it.......
IMOO.

Adrienne Salinas's father found her car when she disappeared and it wasn't even where she would usually be. It was found in a roundabout way away from her apartment.

Usually, don't you look around on your own for your missing family member before you bring the police in, just in case they really aren't missing???

Why would he not have gone to Raley's, looked around, found her car in the parking lot, gone into the store to look for her at least, then called the police??? That's what I would have done, not called the police first.

 

[Treelights]

Adrienne Salinas's father found her car when she disappeared and it wasn't even where she would usually be. It was found in a roundabout way away from her apartment.

Usually, don't you look around on your own for your missing family member before you bring the police in, just in case they really aren't missing???

Why would he not have gone to Raley's, looked around, found her car in the parking lot, gone into the store to look for her at least, then called the police??? That's what I would have done, not called the police first.

It's almost as if he didn't want to be seen near her car.....Just doesn't add up....
IMOO.

 

[cluciano63]

Just kind of reminds me of Jennifer Ramsaran's husband calling the police so quickly, when she was like a half hour or an hour late. JMO

 

[Annie1004]

I think the real mystery here is why no one close to Susan appears to be looking for her. Perhaps therein lies the answer. UNLESS LE is keeping this disappearance close to its vest and requested silence on the part of those who know Susan. Where is she? What would the motive be for Susan to disappear? This makes no sense. IMO only.

 

[cluciano63]

HOW could she disappear, even if she wanted to? How could she have made plans, for example, with a secret friend, if there is no record of it? And how would she survive without substantial funds, if not with a friend? Really, sometimes I wonder, in case I ever wanted to do it, and I know I wouldn't know how. All I can come up with is a women's shelter.

 

[Treelights]

HOW could she disappear, even if she wanted to? How could she have made plans, for example, with a secret friend, if there is no record of it? And how would she survive without substantial funds, if not with a friend? Really, sometimes I wonder, in case I ever wanted to do it, and I know I wouldn't know how. All I can come up with is a women's shelter.

She could have met somebody while walking the dog. She wouldn't need a phone for that, because it seems Susan was a "creature of habit", so there could have been a meet-up place. She could have bought a disposable phone.
If she left with somebody, that person could be financially stable and take care of her. Perhaps that person lives out of state. Perhaps that person knew her from California or Nevada, but they moved and took her with them and they are off enjoying the sunset, not looking back at the life she once had.
I do not see any of these as being a possibility in her disappearance, but it could happen, I suppose. There are Sugar Daddy's out there, just waiting for the perfect wife/girl friend for them. Many want younger women, but men love women that come in all shapes and sizes, different ages, etc. Maybe being 59 could be young to a 70 year old!
IMOO.

 

[Annie1004]

She could have met somebody while walking the dog. She wouldn't need a phone for that, because it seems Susan was a "creature of habit", so there could have been a meet-up place. She could have bought a disposable phone.
If she left with somebody, that person could be financially stable and take care of her. Perhaps that person lives out of state. Perhaps that person knew her from California or Nevada, but they moved and took her with them and they are off enjoying the sunset, not looking back at the life she once had.
I do not see any of these as being a possibility in her disappearance, but it could happen, I suppose. There are Sugar Daddy's out there, just waiting for the perfect wife/girl friend for them. Many want younger women, but men love women that come in all shapes and sizes, different ages, etc. Maybe being 59 could be young to a 70 year old!
IMOO.

I hope this is what happened, although how could she leave for the birth of her first grandchild? If she planned on leaving, why not wait until after the birth? Since we don't know much about her, it is hard to answer what could have happened. Maybe she has contacted her husband and son recently, and that could explain the silence?

 

[Seajay]

She could have met somebody while walking the dog. She wouldn't need a phone for that, because it seems Susan was a "creature of habit", so there could have been a meet-up place. She could have bought a disposable phone.
If she left with somebody, that person could be financially stable and take care of her. Perhaps that person lives out of state. Perhaps that person knew her from California or Nevada, but they moved and took her with them and they are off enjoying the sunset, not looking back at the life she once had.
I do not see any of these as being a possibility in her disappearance, but it could happen, I suppose. There are Sugar Daddy's out there, just waiting for the perfect wife/girl friend for them. Many want younger women, but men love women that come in all shapes and sizes, different ages, etc. Maybe being 59 could be young to a 70 year old!
IMOO.

I had wondered about that early on in this case, if she knew someone who she befriended, or ended up falling for, and they planned a getaway, then this whole scenerio would fit. Even if someone doesn't think she'd do something like this, no one really knows what goes on in someone's heart and secret thoughts.

I think if I was going to disappear, I'd do it something like she did. Leave everything behind, just walk away, to another vehicle, to another life. Taking nothing that could trace me.

And seeing the excitement and panic (?) about her missing, I can't say I would blame her if she felt unloved and unappreciated where she was. JMO.

 

[Treelights]

Susan is still listed as Missing on the State of California Department of
Justice Office of the Attorney General website......

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4041312200043

Susan is still listed as Missing on the NamUs website, as a Kind Websleuther was able to utilize NamUs and added her to the Missing Persons page.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21150/0/

So, I would think that if Susan contacted her family, they would contact the police........ IMOO.

Quoting myself here from an earlier post today.
I do not believe that Susan contacted her family.
If she did, then I would Think that they would have contacted
at least the first agency listed for the state of California, or contacted the police, etc, so that she could be taken off these missing person listings.
Also, I would think that if they had heard from Susan, they would Immediately tell the world, so that everyone would know, and this could be over and done with. I truly feel they want it over and done with, even though they are not speaking to or e-mailing the media.
IMOO.

 

[floridamomma]

It seemed that kjac & susan had a good relationship, so one would think she'd be there for the gbabys birth... i wonder if things were strained between the daughter in law & susan? i mean, you couldn't keep me away from my bebegrande (what i call my wee one!)... but if she felt she wasnt going to be able to see baby anyway, perhaps she might have left on her own... idk, i just don't get that vibe here.At first i leaned heavily toward thinking stranger abduction... i was thinking Cheryl Dunlap, who was killed in my town a few years back by a serial killer. but with the lack of family making noise, i have to look closer at her hubby.

 

[Treelights]

I had wondered about that early on in this case, if she knew someone who she befriended, or ended up falling for, and they planned a getaway, then this whole scenerio would fit. Even if someone doesn't think she'd so something like this, no one really knows what goes on in someone's heart and secret thoughts.

I think if I was going to disappear, I'd do it something like she did. Leave everything behind, just walk away, to another vehicle, to another life. Taking nothing that could trace me.

And seeing the excitement and panic (?) about her missing, I can't say I would blame her if she felt unloved and unappreciated where she was. JMO.

From the silence that has been heard, yeah, I can see if she felt unloved and unappreciated. After all, 35 years is a Long time to be married. i would think there would be More Emotion and Emphasis placed on the love of their life that Is Missing. With that said, maybe if she did leave, this person gave her what she was lacking.
AND, it would be much easier emotionally, I would think, to leave Before the grandbaby was born. She may have felt attached to the baby and torn between the love of her grandchild and leaving if she stayed until after the birth.
BUT! to leave her whole family that she seemingly loved???
It doesn't really add up........Maybe it doesn't add up because we aren't in her shoes, if she did leave on purpose. It is hard to say, unless we walked in her shoes, I suppose.
Regardless, I still don't feel she left willingly, that's just my opinion.....

 

[nikb]

Her car was found in the parking lot by the police, so yes, it was there. Her husband did not find it there as he did not look there, but the police found it.
The police could have found it by chance, or they could have found it if they questioned the husband about what her plans were that day. Why he did not search there being SO CLOSE to his home( knowing she would have been there at some point), I still will not understand, but that is just me and my thought process about looking for and finding a person, place or thing.
IMOO.

True, I guess the car being found is one of the few known facts, confirmed by LE, in this case.

 

[Treelights]

It seemed that kjac & susan had a good relationship, so one would think she'd be there for the gbabys birth... i wonder if things were strained between the daughter in law & susan? i mean, you couldn't keep me away from my bebegrande (what i call my wee one!)... but if she felt she wasnt going to be able to see baby anyway, perhaps she might have left on her own... idk, i just don't get that vibe here.At first i leaned heavily toward thinking stranger abduction... i was thinking Cheryl Dunlap, who was killed in my town a few years back by a serial killer. but with the lack of family making noise, i have to look closer at her hubby.

It could have been unrequited love, and it's very difficult to live that way, if one person loves more than the other. It could be a dysfunctional situation with all the family members.

Your bebegrande sounds like a Starbucks drink! How cute!! Sounds like you love being a grandparent. Neat!!
IMOO.

 

[Seajay]

This case so reminds me of Bob Harrod's case. He's been missing for over 4 years now and the family has never really made much of an attempt to find him. No search parties, no vigils, no plans for exposure on any of the anniversaries of his disappearance. The only one looking for him and trying to keep his case alive was his new wife of one month.

Bob was worth a couple of million dollars, and it seems that the only thing that's happening is waiting for time to pass to declare him dead so they can dive into the money.

CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #17 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Cuoco7]

IMOO I think a search going east on highway 80 up towards the foothills would be good... But where to start? Someone had time to make her disappear. It's ridiculous that there's been no obvious movement on this case, or voices. IMOO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Just kind of reminds me of Jennifer Ramsaran's husband calling the police so quickly, when she was like a half hour or an hour late. JMO

Yes... I see more than one similarity to Jennifer Ramsaran's case...

JMO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I am going to dig up something discussed a while back... Since we have no new news...

does anyone remember an attorney(?) asking if Susan had joined... Or tried to join a gym?

And stated this was IMPORTANT?

did anything come of this that I may be missing?

should we be looking at any and all gyms in her area to see if she had joined/tried to join?

:waitasec:

 

[Psychedelia]

Adrienne Salinas's father found her car when she disappeared and it wasn't even where she would usually be. It was found in a roundabout way away from her apartment.

Usually, don't you look around on your own for your missing family member before you bring the police in, just in case they really aren't missing???

Why would he not have gone to Raley's, looked around, found her car in the parking lot, gone into the store to look for her at least, then called the police??? That's what I would have done, not called the police first.

This is SO true. I'm picturing what my dad would've done if my mom hadn't come back from the store. He would have driven down to the store and looked for her and her car. He would have exhausted all of the the things he could do himself (like calling her friends - I know Susan didn't have any/many, just an example), before finally calling the police. This is suspicious to me.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I am looking back at my notes...

Husband is not a POI... But he has not been ruled out by LE...

:waitasec: