CA - Use of deadly force by police disappears on Richmond streets

[bluesneakers]

So what about teachers, CPS workers, loan officers, judges, lawyers, etc?

They have all been targets of retaliation, several of them killed and are cases here on WS.

Being a cop is a dangerous job, sure. I am pretty sure they tell candidates this before they begin training. If you choose that career path, you choose it fully aware of its risks.

But thread after thread of "why should cops put themselves in dangerous positions?" ad nauseum....
Well, because it is the nature lf the job.

Its like a lumberjack refusing to climb up trees because it is too dangerous. It is the job as advertised. You use safety gear, have proper training, but it is what it is.

Hiding behind false or partial names? That is ridiculous, IMO.

This is just my opinion and not directed at anyone.

I'm going to join the Army but not go where they send me because why should I put my life or physical safety on the line? How dare anyone ask that of me.

JMO

 

[i.b.nora]

Tucson-bound Chief Chris Magnus gets final send-off

The Richmond Standard
Jan 6, 2016

http://richmondstandard.com/2016/01/tucson-bound-chief-chris-magnus-gets-final-send-off/

“A packed crowd at Salute E Vita Ristorante on Tuesday bid farewell to Richmond police Chief Chris Magnus along with his husband, Terrance Cheung, who was Mayor Tom Butt’s chief of staff and before that a top aide for County Supervisor John Gioia.

The couple is leaving town after Magnus was hired to become police chief of the larger city of Tucson, Ariz.

Magnus’ last day as chief of the Richmond Police Department is Saturday, at which point the department’s second in command, Allywn Brown, becomes interim police chief. A selection process for the city’s next official chief will be underway in the coming months.

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Magnus may be one of the city’s most popular chiefs historically, having gained local and national recognition for his community policing strategies credited with producing record reductions in crime during the last several years. He joined the department a decade ago following his tenure as the Fargo, N.D., police chief.

According to RPD, during his RPD tenure Magnus installed a number of important programs including CompStat, ShotSpotter, Mental Health Evaluation Team and Operation Ceasefire, to name a few. During that time, he also hired 128 police officers and promoted 32 sergeants, 13 lieutenants, 3 deputy chiefs and 1 assistant chief.”​

 

[EllieBee]

Great job, Chief Magnus and Richmond!

 

[i.b.nora]

From early in 2015, Chris Magnus reports the Richmond crime stats directly to the community:

http://richmondconfidential.org/201...r-of-2015-police-force-vacancies-a-challenge/

Crime rises in first quarter of 2015; police force vacancies a challenge

Richmond Confidential
By Larry Zhou
Posted April 20, 2015 2:18 pm

Discusses numbers and possible meanings.

 

[bluesneakers]

Re Mental Health Evaluation Team

Out of the arrangement comes a Mental Health Evaluation Team, which includes three full-time health clinicians from a division of the health agency and one officer each from the Concord, Pittsburg and Richmond police departments.

...

“(It) helps break a cycle of crises for people who are in frequent need of emergency services because of mental illness,” she said. “It provides an avenue to treatment they might not otherwise be able to access.”
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On Oct. 6, Richmond police said they experienced one of the program’s first successes. In a Facebook post, Richmond police officials said the new Mental Health Evaluation Team officer helped remove a firearm from the possession of a possibly suicidal individual.

http://patch.com/california/elcerrito/new-county-partnership-aims-help-mentally-ill

"We do a lot of training dealing with the mentally ill. We have officers on all of our shifts who have gotten even more detailed and involved training — crisis intervention training — dealing specifically with mentally-ill individuals. That covers understanding what the signs are that someone may be in a mental-health crisis, understanding about medications and the impact of those medicines that a lot of folks might be on, understanding what happens when they're not taking their medication, and getting better knowledge on how to interact or engage with people who are in crisis."

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/18/611145...ations-cops-killing-outreach-culture-training

 

[EllieBee]

You know, a lot of folks criticize and complain about the state of things, myself included.

I have real respect for the kind of people who see problems, acknowledge them and work to find solutions! It is hard work and probably a lot of trial-and-error, but very heartening to see in action.

It motivates me to beetch less and solve more....maybe tomorrow......:lol:

 

[EllieBee]

@bluesneakers:

You seem to know a lot about mental health and the sad state of mental health care- not prying, but are you in the field or it is just dear to your heart?

Sorry for sort of OT....

 

[i.b.nora]

Spike in homicides adds to unfinished agenda awaiting Magnus successor
Richmond Confidential
By Matt Beagle
Posted December 9, 2015 1:27 pm

http://richmondconfidential.org/2015/12/09/violence-increases-as-magnus-leaves/



FBI data on Richmond homicides from 2004-2014. With 19 homicides so far in 2015, it is the first time the homicide number has grown in the last four years.

“It wasn’t quite dark in central Richmond, a little before 5 p.m. the day before Thanksgiving.

A 13-year-old girl was walking down a flight of stairs, two people were driving north in a white sedan on Carlson Boulevard “when they shot into the direction of the Pullman Townhouses, and kept on driving,” police said.

The 13-year-old was shot in the leg, just above the knee. Police said the girl, treated and released at a local hospital, “was not the intended target, but unfortunately, she was in the immediate area.”

Police are chasing two suspects, possibly juveniles. They issued the standard public plea for information, but no immediate arrests were made.

And so, one more entry on the already daunting agenda Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus leaves behind as he departs to become police chief in Tucson, Arizona.

His first day in Tucson comes after the New Year, and his last few weeks in Richmond promise to be filled with praise for a man recognized as one of the nation’s most successful law enforcement leaders.

He and his fellow officers made dramatic progress in the 10 years Magnus ran the notorious Richmond PD, reducing violent crime and improving relations with city residents.

“Our relationships with the community are stronger than they’ve ever been,” Magnus said.

He gave due credit to the officers in his command.

“I think we have about as much talent as I’ve ever seen in any police department,” he said.

That talent promises to be tested.”​

While the snippet above doesn't neccessarily exhibit it, I think this is an extraordinarily good article, and a must read, imo, to help round out a view of Magnus and Richmond.

Note: Richmond Confidential is an online news service produced by the Graduate School of Journalism at UC Berkeley for, and about, the people of Richmond, California. Our goal is to produce professional and engaging journalism that is useful for the citizens of this city. With 15 full time reporters, we’ll be covering education, development, politics, culture, crime—and anything that happens that people need to know about.

 

[bluesneakers]

@bluesneakers:

You seem to know a lot about mental health and the sad state of mental health care- not prying, but are you in the field or it is just dear to your heart?

Sorry for sort of OT....

A little of both.

 

[katydid23]

LawStreetMedia is pretty much a one person (Kevin Rizzo) blog. Why should we trust or believe any if his so-called statistics about anything? Just pathetic.

Edit to add: I see now that he is using FBI Crime Report statistics to fashion a result that has been picked up by other sites.

Here is a totally different site that also places Richmond among the most dangerous cities.


http://www.socialdailypost.com/californias-10-dangerous-cities/2

 

[Tawny]

Here is a totally different site that also places Richmond among the most dangerous cities.


http://www.socialdailypost.com/californias-10-dangerous-cities/2

Ok..................???

 

[katydid23]

Ok..................???

Someone responded to my previous post which said that Richmond was a very dangerous city, still today, and they said the guy who wrote that article was biased or not credible. So I linked another source which said the same thing, that the Richmond crime rate is very, very high.

My point is that the Chief has the officers focusing on helping the locals move trash out of their empty lots, and tow abandoned cars, and go to neighborhood church groups to make friends with everyone. Meanwhile, the crime rate is now spiking and the gangs are still out of control. The 'solved' rate on the recent murders is horrendous, and there has been a huge jump in armed robberies all across the city. And the chief just now left.

So I do not see him as the big hero that others are making him out to be. Just My Opinion. :cow:

 

[Tawny]

Someone responded to my previous post which said that Richmond was a very dangerous city, still today, and they said the guy who wrote that article was biased or not credible. So I linked another source which said the same thing, that the Richmond crime rate is very, very high.

My point is that the Chief has the officers focusing on helping the locals move trash out of their empty lots, and tow abandoned cars, and go to neighborhood church groups to make friends with everyone. Meanwhile, the crime rate is now spiking and the gangs are still out of control. The 'solved' rate on the recent murders is horrendous, and there has been a huge jump in armed robberies all across the city. And the chief just now left.

So I do not see him as the big hero that others are making him out to be. Just My Opinion. :cow:

You've apparently missed the ENTIRE point of this thread.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Someone responded to my previous post which said that Richmond was a very dangerous city, still today, and they said the guy who wrote that article was biased or not credible. So I linked another source which said the same thing, that the Richmond crime rate is very, very high.

My point is that the Chief has the officers focusing on helping the locals move trash out of their empty lots, and tow abandoned cars, and go to neighborhood church groups to make friends with everyone. Meanwhile, the crime rate is now spiking and the gangs are still out of control. The 'solved' rate on the recent murders is horrendous, and there has been a huge jump in armed robberies all across the city. And the chief just now left.

So I do not see him as the big hero that others are making him out to be. Just My Opinion. :cow:

Sounds like the drop in the use of deadly force has coincided with an increase in crime. Overall poor policing perhaps. JMO

 

[EllieBee]

Sounds like the drop in the use of deadly force has coincided with an increase in crime. Overall poor policing perhaps. JMO

Or you can go with the statistics, but, yeah, that's just NUTTY, man.

 

[Tawny]

Sounds like the drop in the use of deadly force has coincided with an increase in crime. Overall poor policing perhaps. JMO

Actually, crime has dropped 75% over the last few years, with spikes and valleys interspersed, so this is false.

 

[Tawny]

The topic if the thread isn't even the crime rate. This was supposed to be a pretty pro-LE thread in light of all the recent negative threads about LE.

 

[flourish]

Maybe he'll be lauded if he shoots an unarmed mental patient.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The topic if the thread isn't even the crime rate. This was supposed to be a pretty pro-LE thread in light of all the recent negative threads about LE.

Sorry. I'm not always pro-police. I sometimes make mistakes.

 

[Tawny]

Sorry. I'm not always pro-police. I sometimes make mistakes.

It's ok. I'm just frustrated.