CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #1

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I have a feeling that LE is only sharing limited info. Though I do find it interesting (but in this case probably unrelated) the disappearances of now 3 men from around that area (Valencia, Santa Clarita, and Canyon Country)
 
Any chance you know of some country/golf clubs in the area of the home? I ask because I wonder if the nephew ever frequented these clubs if he's a golf fan. The golf thing continues to stick out for some reason. As others have said there was a tournament going on, so if he was a golfer it makes sense if the two watched. If he wasn't a golfer, I'm not entirely convinced the alibi sticks. Still, maybe he just wanted to hang out with his uncle?

Back here someplace I read that WC like to watch sports ...I wonder if WC was actually the one watching ?
 
4 hours, I'm hitting my wall. Dry Canyon wash. San Francisquito cyn. walked all up to Lady Linda Ln. that crosses riverbed. Tesoro community above Copperhill. Brady Pkwy. off Rye Cyn. Across I-5, entire Hasley cyn. to end of asphalt. Top of Hillcrest to Sloan Cyn.

On the way home, I stopped at Santa Clarita Sheriff station, detective office is in a stealth non-descript location behind Station. They have never heard of this case (1 mile away from WC home), did not know Det. Ralph Hernandez nor Det. John Carlin....told me to go to the watch commander, I did and it appears these 2 are in East L.A. which is 60 minutes away with normal traffic....not much effort being spent. I've got the phone number, debating calling them but I know what they'll say....NOYB.
You are doing an amazing thing searching very day. People like you make a true difference in this world!

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So weird that the home surveillance didn't show anything. If it was properly working and still can't provide answers I don't know what will.


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Trying to go back from the beginning of what is facts and what isn't.
Does his house have home surveillance? If so was it turned off and by whom or is this in referenced to the neighbors?

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Trying to go back from the beginning of what is facts and what isn't.
Does his house have home surveillance? If so was it turned off and by whom or is this in referenced to the neighbors?

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He had no surveillance cams. It was his neighbors who had footage from their cams across the street.

ETA:OOPS just saw the post below that said he did have cams
 
Trying to go back from the beginning of what is facts and what isn't.
Does his house have home surveillance? If so was it turned off and by whom or is this in referenced to the neighbors?

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The very first post in this thread says "nothing is captured on the home surveillance video". It's near the bottom of the news story that is included in the very first post.


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He had no surveillance cams. It was his neighbors who had footage from their cams across the street.

ETA:OOPS just saw the post below that said he did have cams
Yeah...confusing trying to sort out things...while waiting.

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The very first post in this thread says "nothing is captured on the home surveillance video". It's near the bottom of the news story that is included in the very first post.


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Thanks, I saw the post but missed the read. I just watched a movie that makes me cry everytime.

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4 hours, I'm hitting my wall. Dry Canyon wash. San Francisquito cyn. walked all up to Lady Linda Ln. that crosses riverbed. Tesoro community above Copperhill. Brady Pkwy. off Rye Cyn. Across I-5, entire Hasley cyn. to end of asphalt. Top of Hillcrest to Sloan Cyn.

On the way home, I stopped at Santa Clarita Sheriff station, detective office is in a stealth non-descript location behind Station. They have never heard of this case (1 mile away from WC home), did not know Det. Ralph Hernandez nor Det. John Carlin....told me to go to the watch commander, I did and it appears these 2 are in East L.A. which is 60 minutes away with normal traffic....not much effort being spent. I've got the phone number, debating calling them but I know what they'll say....NOYB.

That has to be a lie. It's on SCEmergency now. Why would they say that?
 
That has to be a lie. It's on SCEmergency now. Why would they say that?

I must not understand what you are saying, what has to be a lie? The places that I went today or that the detectives have never heard of William Cierzan case? What is on SCV Emergency Now? If you are referring to the Santa Clarita Sheriff's station as THEY. I would LOVE to clarify your statement.
 
I must not understand what you are saying, what has to be a lie? The places that I went today or that the detectives have never heard of William Cierzan case? What is on SCV Emergency Now? If you are referring to the Santa Clarita Sheriff's station as THEY. I would LOVE to clarify your statement.

I'm saying the detectives had to have lied. Hopefully for a good reason. How could they not of heard of him? Santa Clarita is pretty small. I could be wrong but that makes me worried. Not you. I think your awesome for searching so hard. Do you really believe they don't know about his case?

SCV Emergency now is a local FB page in Santa Clarita that posted his disappearance. I would think they would be apart of that page. This makes me concerned about the efforts to find him because no search party has been given around here and not much has been said since feb 1st. Hopefully they are keeping everything quiet for a good reason.
 
Many of the roads are blocked off in preparation for the coming rain. This seems to be the focus of local LE. The video analysis of the Monterrey Park LE may result in a break in the case.
 
I'm saying the detectives had to have lied. Hopefully for a good reason. How could they not of heard of him? Santa Clarita is pretty small. I could be wrong but that makes me worried. Not you. I think your awesome for searching so hard. Do you really believe they don't know about his case?

SCV Emergency now is a local FB page in Santa Clarita that posted his disappearance. I would think they would be apart of that page. This makes me concerned about the efforts to find him because no search party has been given around here and not much has been said since feb 1st. Hopefully they are keeping everything quiet for a good reason.

Now I understand your point. This is why I posted the facts as I KNOW THEM. The Santa Clarita Sheriff's Station detectives are NOT conducting this investigation on William Cierzan. Local detectives investigate domestic violence, grand thief, hit/run, arson, etc. If you rewatch the only Press Conference video (Feb. 1 from memory) they state that when an Adult goes missing, especially under the stated conditions, LA County Sheriff combine this case with Homicide. I would have thought they would set up a satellite office/desk for Ralph Hernandez & John Carlin here in our city, but NO, they are 60 minutes away. They haven't set up a neighborhood search plan, they aren't releasing details, they aren't explaining edited videos, they aren't addressing the Detectives comments at the PC with the body language of Linda Cierzan disagreeing with his statements. With 4 days of rain coming here in a couple of days, IT'S JUST MY DNA, I CAN'T BE WAITING FOR THESE PEOPLE. The last storm put our community on t.v. because 2 cars in Placerita cyn. were washed 2 streets down river and buried....that would make my task impossible to bring a solution to.
 
Now I understand your point. This is why I posted the facts as I KNOW THEM. The Santa Clarita Sheriff's Station detectives are NOT conducting this investigation on William Cierzan. Local detectives investigate domestic violence, grand thief, hit/run, arson, etc. If you rewatch the only Press Conference video (Feb. 1 from memory) they state that when an Adult goes missing, especially under the stated conditions, LA County Sheriff combine this case with Homicide. I would have thought they would set up a satellite office/desk for Ralph Hernandez & John Carlin here in our city, but NO, they are 60 minutes away. They haven't set up a neighborhood search plan, they aren't releasing details, they aren't explaining edited videos, they aren't addressing the Detectives comments at the PC with the body language of Linda Cierzan disagreeing with his statements. With 4 days of rain coming here in a couple of days, IT'S JUST MY DNA, I CAN'T BE WAITING FOR THESE PEOPLE. The last storm put our community on t.v. because 2 cars in Placerita cyn. were washed 2 streets down river and buried....that would make my task impossible to bring a solution to.


This amazes me.
The only thing that comes to mind is LE knows.
They know who is responsible,
Or they know he walked away (unlikely)

Even if they know who disappeared him, why are they not searching for his body?
Something is quite wrong with all of this.

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Thank you TMS.
You certainly have put a great deal of time and effort into this case
 
This amazes me.
The only thing that comes to mind is LE knows.
They know who is responsible,
Or they know he walked away (unlikely)

Even if they know who disappeared him, why are they not searching for his body?
Something is quite wrong with all of this.

OT
Thank you TMS.
You certainly have put a great deal of time and effort into this case

Agree. The only way this would make sense is if LE knows that WC left voluntarily. It seems doubtful. Puzzling. Also, I had read that the next door neighbor said that LE never interviewed them about what they saw and heard...It's strange...
 
In the last video the first detective did say that WC likes to play golf, and watch sports. So I am believing that he was watching golf that day.

Does WC have a cell phone ? If so, where is it ?

I have not seen a description of what WC was wearing that day ? Did WC's wife actually see him in the morning before she left the house ? Was there anything unusual on any computers in the house ? Any unusual bank account activity ?

There is almost no info ....jmo
 
In the last video the first detective did say that WC likes to play golf, and watch sports. So I am believing that he was watching golf that day.

Does WC have a cell phone ? If so, where is it ?

I have not seen a description of what WC was wearing that day ? Did WC's wife actually see him in the morning before she left the house ? Was there anything unusual on any computers in the house ? Any unusual bank account activity ?

There is almost no info ....jmo

I do recall his cell phone being mentioned
I think LC said she spoke to him and he was using it
I believe it was at home
I am going to look for it as i don't want to add to any false info :(
 
It is in the PC I believe. LC said he spoke to her on cell phone
His sister said he has no ID or phone with him

Yes, just listened again. Sister says he had no cell phone on him, no ID etc
 
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