CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #1

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  • #541
Steph9676....yes, 3 times now. The gopher infestation is unreal. The gophers are nearly the size of a guinea pig in diameter and push up large mounds of dirt in a straight line looking like someone buried. There are many oak trees dropping leaves that become a mulch...lot of bug activity. Lots of tree branches touching the ground to the point of creating a drape difficult to see in.

The neighbor helping us today, close enough to call the nephews bio dad on the 27th, whether he calls Det. Ralph Hernandez or I am having the organizer get ahold of him, it will be told.

RAZZ: I love this site and those of you invested in this case. I don't want to chance getting banned. 2 of my first 5 posts were removed....both were public information we all can find on addresses associated with a name. Just like debbiegarcia36 posted todays search article from The Signal, I used the same newspaper that posts arrests records..

MadScientist I too love this site and follow several cases. If I can help you avoid getting anything deleted, what I have learned is that unless someone is a person of Interest by LE we can not say their name or suggest that they are guilty. I think it's ok to say we searched by family members homes because that's a fact and not accusing anyone. If it's in an article you have to copy and paste the link on your post and I believe you can quote from it.

Also all family members are off limits. So unless mentioning them in a positive light or saying you feel bad anything else seems to get deleted.

Also some mensions of fb gets deleted as well. So same as above unless it's of importance it's not considered a real source and has to come from an MSM article.

Hope this helps.
 
  • #542
MadScienentist...you rock!

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  • #543
Shout out to The Mad Scientist

Such dedication, a great job
Thank you
Going back to re read everything about the search, the people who attended etc
 
  • #544
I feel so bad for this family. A sweet man is missing, and the only logical conclusion is the obvious one. Someone took advantage of him, and probably did something stupid that they can't undo. I hope this family finds him soon so they can have closure.
 
  • #545
Curious as to why this area was chosen to search
The man seems to be missing without a clue as to what happened
Why did they choose this area?
Tip?
 
  • #546
Curious as to why this area was chosen to search
The man seems to be missing without a clue as to what happened
Why did they choose this area?
Tip?

It's interesting that this area was chosen since it's not any closer to his home then any of the other dry riverbed areas in Santa Clarita.
 
  • #547
It's interesting that this area was chosen since it's not any closer to his home then any of the other dry riverbed areas in Santa Clarita.
Maybe because it's an area nephew was familiar with?

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  • #548
It is speculated that the person related to the SUV in the video is also the same person who lived/grew up near the recent search area. From a statitistical standpoint, it makes sense to search there. Of further interest is the person who rolled up asking questions the other day. Hmmmmm
 
  • #549
It is speculated that the person related to the SUV in the video is also the same person who lived/grew up near the recent search area. From a statitistical standpoint, it makes sense to search there. Of further interest is the person who rolled up asking questions the other day. Hmmmmm

Yes, now it does make sense for them to choose that location.
I am also very curious about the person who showed such interest in what the searchers were looking for
 
  • #550
Yes, now it does make sense for them to choose that location.
I am also very curious about the person who showed such interest in what the searchers were looking for
This is turning into quite an interesting mystery...but I seriously hope they take the info from the search seriously and go with it...that is the kind of stuff that seems like "nothing" but can mean everything

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  • #551
This is turning into quite an interesting mystery...but I seriously hope they take the info from the search seriously and go with it...that is the kind of stuff that seems like "nothing" but can mean everything

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Yes, I agree with you.
I still can't believe they waited so long....
 
  • #552
Yes, I agree with you.
I still can't believe they waited so long....
Did the rains begin after Will "left"
or was it before or after? I'm recalling the video of Mad Scientist's where the land had basically become a roaring river.
I can't help but think anything buried during that flood is no longer buried but somewhere down stream.

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  • #553
Did the rains begin after Will "left"
or was it before or after? I'm recalling the video of Mad Scientist's where the land had basically become a roaring river.
I can't help but think anything buried during that flood is no longer buried but somewhere down stream.

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I believe the rains began after William went missing.

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  • #554
Just recently, am adorable teen succumbed to the storm flooding and was located 18 miles downstream.
 
  • #555
Just recently, am adorable teen succumbed to the storm flooding and was located 18 miles downstream.
So sad.

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  • #556
I believe it actually rained the day after he dissapeared however the very heavy rains happened after he had already dissapeared.

Did the rains begin after Will "left"
or was it before or after? I'm recalling the video of Mad Scientist's where the land had basically become a roaring river.
I can't help but think anything buried during that flood is no longer buried but somewhere down stream.

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  • #557
First, I just don't click on the "Thanks" button because its there, each of you have started to hit on really good points that apply to this case. The hard core people in the Saturday search are becoming very angry and more motivated. We haven't missed a single day now, but the reason I haven't posted, some of this will complicate a conviction if posted. Gig Tu, you are referring to a different case, BUT every bit of that situation drove our search late today. One in our group was able to secure permits, access, responsibility & keys to go anywhere we want. Gig Tu #548 & Dushi #549 if I could fly you both out, you would help solve this faster....don't forget there was 1 on Friday & 1 on Saturday that had no business at this location. I can't post yesterday nor can I post details of late this afternoon.

Today was a total of 9 hours in 2 phases. The morning started out with me going to clear the property of Grace Baptist Church on Copperhill between Seco cyn. & San Francisquito cyn. I always do things as proper as should be done...I check in with the secretary, looked at her log for night time activities Thurs. Jan. 26th, gates would have closed around 10 pm that night, I ask to speak to the facilities/ground supr., I give him my real ID/phone, I have to give him a portion of the story to justify me walking around as the northeast & northwest parking lots cannot be seen from any of this large church facility. I never completed the full perimeter when 2 cop cars with lights showed up to find some whack job looking like this.....perhaps I should have gone without hair color....
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  • #558
First, I just don't click on the "Thanks" button because its there, each of you have started to hit on really good points that apply to this case. The hard core people in the Saturday search are becoming very angry and more motivated. We haven't missed a single day now, but the reason I haven't posted, some of this will complicate a conviction if posted. Gig Tu, you are referring to a different case, BUT every bit of that situation drove our search late today. One in our group was able to secure permits, access, responsibility & keys to go anywhere we want. Gig Tu #548 & Dushi #549 if I could fly you both out, you would help solve this faster....don't forget there was 1 on Friday & 1 on Saturday that had no business at this location. I can't post yesterday nor can I post details of late this afternoon.

Today was a total of 9 hours in 2 phases. The morning started out with me going to clear the property of Grace Baptist Church on Copperhill between Seco cyn. & San Francisquito cyn. I always do things as proper as should be done...I check in with the secretary, looked at her log for night time activities Thurs. Jan. 26th, gates would have closed around 10 pm that night, I ask to speak to the facilities/ground supr., I give him my real ID/phone, I have to give him a portion of the story to justify me walking around as the northeast & northwest parking lots cannot be seen from any of this large church facility. I never completed the full perimeter when 2 cop cars with lights showed up to find some whack job looking like this.....perhaps I should have gone without hair color....
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Uh yes. The hair color is not bad but the glasses?! You're lucky it was only 2 cop cars.

So, what is the possibility that Will's body (If deceased) could have been washed away during the heavy rains?!

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  • #559
First, I just don't click on the "Thanks" button because its there, each of you have started to hit on really good points that apply to this case. The hard core people in the Saturday search are becoming very angry and more motivated. We haven't missed a single day now, but the reason I haven't posted, some of this will complicate a conviction if posted. Gig Tu, you are referring to a different case, BUT every bit of that situation drove our search late today. One in our group was able to secure permits, access, responsibility & keys to go anywhere we want. Gig Tu #548 & Dushi #549 if I could fly you both out, you would help solve this faster....don't forget there was 1 on Friday & 1 on Saturday that had no business at this location. I can't post yesterday nor can I post details of late this afternoon.

Today was a total of 9 hours in 2 phases. The morning started out with me going to clear the property of Grace Baptist Church on Copperhill between Seco cyn. & San Francisquito cyn. I always do things as proper as should be done...I check in with the secretary, looked at her log for night time activities Thurs. Jan. 26th, gates would have closed around 10 pm that night, I ask to speak to the facilities/ground supr., I give him my real ID/phone, I have to give him a portion of the story to justify me walking around as the northeast & northwest parking lots cannot be seen from any of this large church facility. I never completed the full perimeter when 2 cop cars with lights showed up to find some whack job looking like this.....perhaps I should have gone without hair color....
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MadScientist: If there is anything I can do to help just let me know as I live in the area (off Newhall Ranch and Bouquet Canyon). Thanks for all you do.

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  • #560
Dig the hair color! Even when your doing something serious, sometimes you need to give people a little something to to talk about, if for no other reason, just to lighten up the mood 😊

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